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Palm Pre to Sync with iTunes on Macs?

zelet said:
I understand what you are saying but the SDK provide hooks into the operating system. I think that is where we are disagreeing. It isn't just HTML/JavaScript etc.
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Yes, but the only LANGUAGE you can write in is HTML/Javascript -- a slow, interpreted language. The iPhone runs apps written in C/Objective C -- fast, compiled languages. The only reason the Pre doesn't look like a total joke right now is because its CPU runs at double the clock speed of the 2008 iPhone. The trouble is that the coming soon 2009 iPhone will also have a twice as fast CPU -- and the already fast Apps are going to smoke anything on the Pre.

Give it up, zelet. The Pre may be the best iPhone copy out there yet, but as always it is competing with last years model. That's what happens when you copy and follow instead of inventing and leading. My prediction, the Pre will look very sad next to the 2009 iPhone.
 
johnqh said:
It can only have hooks which require simple parameters, like phone call, maybe a "mailto" etc.

It cannot have hooks to 3D, or memory buffer.

Don't get me wrong. Palm will eventually provide an SDK which has much deeper access to the OS (just like Apple's iPhone SDK, comparing to the original WebApp SDK).

Just don't expect much based on WebOS.

You don't have to believe me. In three months, we will know.
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The SDK does provide hooks into the phone hardware (accelerometer, network connection, GPS) and has a pretty deep access to the OS. The first iPhone web SDK and the webOS SDK are worlds apart.

Ted13 said:
That's what happens when you copy and follow instead of inventing and leading. My prediction, the Pre will look very sad next to the 2009 iPhone.
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Are you saying that Jon Rubinstein and the other Apple employees that are now working for Palm are taking inspiration from the product they originally developed? Mind blowing!
 
yg17 said:
That's due to a limitation of CDMA/EvDO. All Sprint and Verizon phones have that limitation. A UMTS, or later on, LTE Pre will not have that problem
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It's also a very real limitation for most iPhone users, considering AT&T's 3G footprint isn't great at all. Not to mention, even when I use my iPhone in many places that should have 3G coverage I'm stuck with a nice edge signal. To make matters worse when I'm using data while on edge I can't get any calls, it goes straight to voicemail.

Sure, the iPhone on paper allows for data/voice to be used at the same time, but in reality it just doesn't seem to happen often.
 
dragossh said:
The SDK does provide hooks into the phone hardware (accelerometer, network connection, GPS) and has a pretty deep access to the OS. The first iPhone web SDK and the webOS SDK are worlds apart.
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Agreed. However Apple quite easily could produce a Javascript SDK of its own with all the same features -- WebKit is Apple's baby after all.

Are you saying that Jon Rubinstein and the other Apple employees that are now working for Palm are taking inspiration from the product they originally developed? Mind blowing!
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Jon Rubinstein developed the iPhone?!? Unless you can offer proof, I think you are completely full of crap. Rubinstein, & co. were responsible for the iPod, not the iPhone -- totally different creature, and a different OS, which incidentally Apple originally bought from someone else. iPhone's OS and API/SDK were strictly developed inhouse based on Mac OS X. Unless you want to tell me that Scott Forstall and Bertrand Serlet have been moonlighting at Palm, Palm COPIED the iPhone, it did not somehow come up with it independently. When iPhone 1.0 was announced Palm poo-pooed it and went on working on the long cancelled Foleo. It wasn't until the iPhone was a success that they woke up and did a 180.
 
slapppy said:
Probably the best description would be.
"Any data access stops during voice calls." or "Cannot use data and voice concurrently"

The hardware design is also clunky and breaks any type of one piece smooth slab look that Apple has pioneered. Giving us that futuristic look of scifi movies today with real devices. The sliding mechanism eventually gets clunky and loose after a few months. Thats why I love how there is no mechanical gimmicky pieces on the iPhone/Touch.
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iTunes sync confirmed and Demo'ed


http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/28/palm-live-from-d7/
 
Eidorian said:
More hardware needs to take advantage of this. You'll open up a market to Mac users and anyone else that uses iTunes.
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Agree.

I mean its not a secret, many devices have had this capability.

But this is the irst i've seen using it as a selling point.

Apple has open API's for iTunes for these reasons, why people think they would all of a sudden no longer offer their API's I don't understand.


I personally use a Zune. They don't have any open API's....its really annoying with things like Foxytunes and other things.
 
DougB541 said:
Agree.

I mean its not a secret, many devices have had this capability.

But this is the irst i've seen using it as a selling point.

Apple has open API's for iTunes for these reasons, why people think they would all of a sudden no longer offer their API's I don't understand.


I personally use a Zune. They don't have any open API's....its really annoying with things like Foxytunes and other things.
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I think Microsoft should just let the Zune use iTunes under OS X instead of trying to port their software over. It's annoying that you can't really use the Zune unless it's under its own software.

Like I said more devices should just do this and open themselves up to Mac users.
 
Jesus you apple fanboys make me sick.You know apple is just a company who doesnt care about you, and neither does Steve Jobs. They make great products,yes, but some of you guys go way far.

Good for Plam, they have a nice device going for them and i wish them success. Syncing with itunes is confirmed to work with Windows as well.


PS:i have an iPhone.
 
Ted13 said:
Yes, but the only LANGUAGE you can write in is HTML/Javascript -- a slow, interpreted language. The iPhone runs apps written in C/Objective C -- fast, compiled languages.
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You may recall that the iPhone also supported only web applications when it was first released. Javascript may be "slow" but its getting much, much faster in the next generation of browsers thanks to modern dynamic compilation techniques. No substitute for native apps, to be sure, but far better than it was in the original iphone.
 
ebrunn said:
You can tell they didnt work with Apple because it still shows up "Syncing iPod"

Expect a iTunes update June 4th
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Once again.

Apple has open API's for a reason. There are many devices that do this.



And on another note (not directed to you)

People who keep arguing against the WebOS programming languages....just look at the apps on it already....it works well...its fast, its nice and use the phone hardware.

Its not as basic as they make it seem i'm assuming.
 
DougB541 said:
Once again.

Apple has open API's for a reason. There are many devices that do this.



And on another note (not directed to you)

People who keep arguing against the WebOS programming languages....just look at the apps on it already....it works well...its fast, its nice and use the phone hardware.

Its not as basic as they make it seem i'm assuming.
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There's just a lot of insecure Apple fanboys. It's time to grow up folks.

I love Apple just like most here, but Apple isn't the end all be all.

w00master
 
Microsoft licensed Exchange ActiveSync to Apple and Palm, instead of keeping it only to their own WM phones.

Microsoft has the right idea: the more companies who use something, the more it becomes a standard that a phone must support to be taken seriously.

So why shouldn't Apple let Palm sync via iTunes?
 
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