Panasonic vs Canon

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  1. BossofMASS macrumors member

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    Hey, Im just wondering what some thoughts are about Canon cameras (video) vs Panasonic cameras. Not consumer cameras but professional ones. I dont want to go into specifics because Im just wondering in general, not one camera vs another.
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    Canon's "professional" line is equal to Panasonic's "prosumer" line.

    A better comparison would be Panasonic and Sony.
     
  3. -DH macrumors 65816

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    I'd take a used Panasonic DVX100B over two brand new Canon XL1s any day! There is absolutley no comparission in image quality between the two.

    Canon's images might look OK until you see that from a Panasonic.

    -DH
     
  4. BossofMASS thread starter macrumors member

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    So are you saying Panasonic is better?
    if so then are you saying sony is better than canon?

    Is professional supposed to be better than prosumer?
     
  5. Spizzo macrumors 6502

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    They both have different advantages. Depending on what you want to do, one camera or the other may be better for you. Some people prefer Canon, some panasonic. As a canon owner, I'm very impressed with the images coming out of comparable panasonics. Is it enough for me to switch next upgrade.... I don't know... :confused:
     
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    well the OP said professional cameras and Canon really doesn't make a pro camera. Their best offering is the XH-G1 which doesn't have that much use (professionally) since the sensor is still only 1/3". Granted I doubt the OP really wants to know about cameras that cost more than $15k.
     
  7. BossofMASS thread starter macrumors member

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    Well, I would just like to know, generally, which brand is overall, the higher quality.

    What exactly did you mean by "prosumer" and "professional" lines, is there a significant difference in the lines between the brands? is professional supposed to be better than prosumer?
     
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    yes, professional is better than prosumer. prosumer is another name for high-end consumer. if you are talking professional video cameras (usually $15k+) then the discussion doesn't even involve Canon because they don't make cameras for that market.

    I'm a big fan of Panasonic. I own a DVX100b. We use the HDX900 on the show that I work on. I deal with Panasonic equipment all day long and don't have any complaints.
     
  9. LethalWolfe macrumors G3

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    "Prosumer" camera typically costs less than $10k, have a 1/3" imager, and a fixed lens. Pro cameras typically cost over $10k, have removable lenses, and a 1/2" or 2/3" imager. There's a multitude of other differences as well, but those are typically the biggest ones.


    Lethal

    EDIT: Also, "prosumer" cameras are typically "handy-cam" style while "pro" cameras are typically balanced on one's shoulder.
     
  10. BossofMASS thread starter macrumors member

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    ok, on the high end consumer line, who has overall better quality?
     
  11. bigbossbmb macrumors 68000

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    overall quality, I'd have to say Panasonic HVX200.

    best price/performance ratio would be the Canon XH-A1.
     
  12. LethalWolfe macrumors G3

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    Do you want hi-end consumer, or prosumer. :D

    Speaking in generalities all the cameras between $4k and $10k will deliver similar levels of performance whether it's JVC, Sony, Panasonic, or Canon. It really comes down to what your needs are and finding a camera that best matches those needs.


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    Thanks.

    So price out of the question the Panasonic would yield better results?

    Besides just these two cameras, Panasonics then are generally better?
     
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    Naturally, the more knowledgeable operator yields the better results. Thinking one brand is better than another is a fool's game.
     
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    Do you want SD or HD?

    For SD, I'd take a Panasonic DVX100 over a Canon GL2.
    For HD, I'd probably take the Canon XH-A1 over the Panasonic HVX200 mostly because tape is still more practical & much cheaper than solid state media.
     
  16. LethalWolfe macrumors G3

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    If price was out of the question the Canon XLH1 and some non-stock lenses would probably yield better results than the HVX200. Especially if your shooting situation allows you to record directly from the HD-SDI out.

    Just looking at prosumer cameras there really is no "generally better". Generally, they all deliver comparable image quality. The "best" camera is the one that fits into your budget and shooting needs. Of all the sub-10k cameras though the Sony EX1 peaks my interest the most.


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    If price is out of the equation..

    RED One?

    I know this is about Canon vs. Panasonic. But I had to throw that in.

    On-topic, the Panasonic HVX200 is pretty damn impressive if you can spring for big enough P2 cards or firestore, and have hardware to handle the footage. Remember that there are always more expenses than just the camera. Support hardware can be as much or more than your capture system depending on your shooting goals.
     
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    Philip Bloom's work with adapters, the EX1 and the HV20 are very, very impressive, for those who have not seen it. I'm constantly amazed at what people do with that $700 HV20.
     
  19. -DH macrumors 65816

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    Yes.

    Not generally better; they ARE better (image quality wise) when comparing these two cameras. Other models from each manufacturer may vary in result.

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  20. LethalWolfe macrumors G3

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    Yes, Philip Bloom has been a great resource of EX1 owners, and the HV20 can be a very impressive camera for the price when coupled w/a 35mm adapter.


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  21. Eric Piercey macrumors 6502

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    I like the lense on the Canon for long range. Last year I had an XL1s and my DVX100b side by side shooting the same horse show and the XL1's was able to get in nice and close. Resolution was sharper too. He was shooting in SD.
     
  22. Eric Piercey macrumors 6502

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    It depends I think on what you're shooting. Bot cams shooting with the stock lenses in 24fps the DVX is definitely more filmy looking.
     
  23. BossofMASS thread starter macrumors member

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    Ok so from what im hearing Panasonics are better then Canons?
     
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    Have you been reading the thread....?
     
  25. zioxide macrumors 603

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    What exactly do you want to do? All of the cameras have their advantages and disadvantages.
     

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