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ThinkSecret reports that Panther 7B28 and Jaguar 10.2.7 have been seeded.

The update is said to bring extensive changes to various services in the Operating System... but no specifics are given.

ThinkSecret also notes that Version 10.2.7, build 6R34 has also been seeded.

Mac OS X 10.2.7 (codenamed Smeagol) will be the release that accompanies PowerMac G5s. First reported in early June, this newest update provides PPC970/64-bit support to Mac OS X, and should be the shipping Operating System on the new PowerMacs.
 

arn

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Originally posted by DHagan4755
Seeding 10.2.7? Geez, I hope this boads well for the shipping times of the new G5s!

well... guess it means PowerMacs are not shipping at this time :)

arn
 
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bennetsaysargh

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i think tat apple is making a lot of progress. it was a day or 2 ago that they askewd macmegasite to cease and desist of the pictures of 7B21, now we're at 7B28.
does this mean that they got through 7 more builds?
 
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arn

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Re: Re: Panther 7B28 and Jaguar 10.2.7

Originally posted by MrMacman

Well 10.2.7 has been tested already... I don't think this report is correct.

How do you figure it's been tested already?

arn
 
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job

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Re: Panther 7B28 and Jaguar 10.2.7

Originally posted by Macrumors
ThinkSecret also notes that Version 10.2.7, build 6R34 has also been seeded.

Can we take this as a sign that at least some of the towers (1.6/1.8) may ship this month?

After all, why seed 10.2.7 without the hardware? :p

Unless it is only for development purposes.
 
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bobindashadows

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Re: Re: Re: Panther 7B28 and Jaguar 10.2.7

Originally posted by arn
How do you figure it's been tested already?

arn
Perhaps he thinks because they had it on G5s at MacWorld (I refuse to call it Creative whatever) that it's fully tested. ANd that's wrong.
 
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MrMacMan

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Re: Re: Re: Panther 7B28 and Jaguar 10.2.7

Originally posted by arn
How do you figure it's been tested already?

arn
nothing on the record, but this might be the quickest seeding ever.

Look I have some info that I can't talk about, but what I can is this:

They want the G5 to get out as fast as they can, they have already tested this, its common sense that apple wants these out, wants the chips and wants to be (finally) a foot ahead of the competition...


Anyway... Panther is not a 64bit OS it just is a 32bit with 64 bit compatibility.
 
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daveL

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I'm downloading 7B28 as we speak. Download rate is great, so far. Europe is not a download choice on the US ADC site. I think what they are doing is only allow out-of-region downloads during off-peak hours for those regions. Just a guess.

Also 10.2.7 is there for the taking. I haven't looked, yet, to see is there is any benefit for non-G5 machines.
 
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Alexander

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Originally posted by arn
well... guess it means PowerMacs are not shipping at this time :)

arn

Actually, I wouldn't discount that possibility. The seeds that are posted sometimes turn out to be the exact same builds that end up GM a few days or weeks later. So it's entirely possible that they could ship some G5s in a matter of days.

Not saying that they will, but...
 
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daveL

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More Info on 10.2.7

OK, the actual release is not on ADC, only the seed note, at the moment. The note talks of various i/o (F/W, USB 2, etc.) updates. No mention of G5. I think the note is directed at current non-G5 (duh) owners, so the note just gives the updates relevant to existing systems.
 
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A@ron

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Originally posted by Powerbook G5
So is Pather codenamed "Precious"? :D

I don't know about you but the G5 should have been code named precious :) at least IMHO.

A@ron
 
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x-virge

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Can anyone give some further details as to the changes in the Chinese Input Method?

With the first seed of Panther a friend sent me screenshots of the Japanese Input Method and it seemed that the text clarity had increased rather dramatically... I'm wondering if they did the same for Chinese, or if there are some other improvements.
 
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daveL

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Originally posted by x-virge
Can anyone give some further details as to the changes in the Chinese Input Method?

With the first seed of Panther a friend sent me screenshots of the Japanese Input Method and it seemed that the text clarity had increased rather dramatically... I'm wondering if they did the same for Chinese, or if there are some other improvements.
The Chinese Input Method is called out as a specific component that is updated in this beta release.
 
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Anecdoter

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10.2.7

Does anyone know with any certainty if 10.2.7 will run on G4 systems? The release notes, especially the part about USB 2 cards, quoted by Think Secret seem to imply that it will. But does anyone know this for a fact?

Thanks.
 
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Originally posted by A@ron
I don't know about you but the G5 should have been code named precious :) at least IMHO.

A@ron

one computer to control all computers.... hahahaha...
 
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dguisinger

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Seems to me a 10.2.7 G5 seed is pointless.....who is out there that can test it?

Seems to be more of a 10.2.7 "general" release, one that is targetted towards G4 Systems....very possibly different from the 10.2.7 build to be shipped on G5s.
 
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MacBandit

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Originally posted by dguisinger
Seems to me a 10.2.7 G5 seed is pointless.....who is out there that can test it?

Seems to be more of a 10.2.7 "general" release, one that is targetted towards G4 Systems....very possibly different from the 10.2.7 build to be shipped on G5s.

This is exactly what I was thinking. 10.2.7 for the G5s has probably been all but been finalized as testing for these machines was done pretty much all in house. Now they are seeding 10.2.7 so that testing can be done on all older hardware in preparation for the wide release of 10.2.7 later on.
 
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daveL

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Originally posted by MacBandit
This is exactly what I was thinking. 10.2.7 for the G5s has probably been all but been finalized as testing for these machines was done pretty much all in house. Now they are seeding 10.2.7 so that testing can be done on all older hardware in preparation for the wide release of 10.2.7 later on.
You all just don't read the thread, do you? I posted a while ago, here, that the seed notes for 10.2.7 seemed to be targeted at non-G5 machines and provided various i/o improvements, which are NOT related to G5, per se. It is not a "worthless" release, especially if you have a fairly recent Mac (F/W, USB, etc.).
 
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MacBandit

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Originally posted by daveL
You all just don't read the thread, do you? I posted a while ago, here, that the seed notes for 10.2.7 seemed to be targeted at non-G5 machines and provided various i/o improvements, which are NOT related to G5, per se. It is not a "worthless" release, especially if you have a fairly recent Mac (F/W, USB, etc.).

Yes, I have read the thread and your post and I read the seed notes previously today on Think Secret. I was just adding my thoughts that the G5 development had probably finalized and this was for a wide release specifically. Also I didn't say anything about useless. Take a deep breath and relax I was just voicing my opinion and yes I concur with you.
 
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Ambrose Chapel

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How does the Panther seeding compare with Jaguar's from last year? Are they burning the midnight oil or is this a normal release sked? Just wondering if we can expect Panther sooner rather than later...
 
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henryblackman

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Release schedules can change from product to product and how close the engineers feel they are to completion and how much has changed.

It appears that Apple engineers are indeed working like troupers for Panther. It's not unheard of for this many seeds so quickly, but for the amount of changes to have been implemented this rapidly is pretty cool. Having said that, perhaps they have implemented all this already, and now it's just merging their code with the Panther branch of the OS code and sorting out the problems.

As for 10.2.7 this could be out pretty quick (if they are releasing it for everyone), release schedule from seed can be as little as a couple of days and as much as a couple of weeks.
 
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