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Panther 7B53

Does anyone know if they fix that problem, where if u change ur volume while the processor is thinking, or change it up and down, or too fast period, the balance goes off, anyone anyone?
 
Getting towards final candidate status, eh?

I was thinking that Steve would unveil a few more new features at launch... does anyone remember if that happened with Jaguar? Or did the preview of Jag pretty much cover all the new stuff?
 
Originally posted by soosy
Getting towards final candidate status, eh?

I was thinking that Steve would unveil a few more new features at launch... does anyone remember if that happened with Jaguar? Or did the preview of Jag pretty much cover all the new stuff?
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Hmmm... release new features that haven't seen the light of day on product launch? Unless it's been secretly beta tested to the extreme, I find that highly unlikely. We don't want to start emulating M$'s idea of software development, do we?? Let's hope not!
 
Originally posted by soosy
Getting towards final candidate status, eh?

I was thinking that Steve would unveil a few more new features at launch... does anyone remember if that happened with Jaguar? Or did the preview of Jag pretty much cover all the new stuff?
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I think with the current features plus the expected speed increases, that's enough to justify a new version - let's face it, OS X is such a value-added OS already that is leaves what Windows includes for dead!
 
Originally posted by Freg3000
October 3rd for 10.3 would be the perfect Apple touch.

"10.3 on 10-3."

Although it wouldn't mean that much internationally. :)
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That's right, the rest of the world is going to have to wait till the 10th of March next year.

They'll release it right alongside International iTunes :rolleyes:
 
Re: what bugs?

Originally posted by Longey Nowze
what kinda of bugs? can you tell us or is there some sort of NDA? if so I wont tell anyone it was you :)
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1) No, I can't tell you actually, but
2) They are not things that normal users will come across. So don't worry about it - nothing that will eat your HD :D
 
Re: 10-3

Originally posted by fatfish
October 3rd for 10.3 would be the perfect Apple touch.

"10.3 on 10-3."

Although it wouldn't mean that much internationally

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I assume you mean it wouldn't mean that much internationally because it's only North America that writes the month before the day in digit form.

Not quite true, I do it all the time, I usually start my file names with the date and unless you put the month first, they're all messed up in a list.

I know I'm not the only one outside of NA to do this.

Also nobody here refers to the 11-9 incident.

So let's make it 10.3 on 10-3 Apple
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The ISO standard for dates is:

year.month.day

October 3rd, 2003 is properly denoted as:

2003.10.03

In other words, largest units to smallest units as in hours.minutes.seconds.

Americans don't typicaly conform to international standards so I'm curious to read the responses, if any, to these comments. :)

MUC
 
Re: Re: 10-3

Originally posted by Mac User Canada
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The ISO standard for dates is:

year.month.day

October 3rd, 2003 is properly denoted as:

2003.10.03

In other words, largest units to smallest units as in hours.minutes.seconds.

Americans don't typicaly conform to international standards so I'm curious to read the responses, if any, to these comments. :)

MUC
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Most places I've been use day/month/year for general use (I've not been to North America). I'm sure the reason for this is purely historical (Roman, eg. the Ides (sp?) of March)

All our files (electronic) use the iso standard - that way they actually stay in date order. I get quite mad when people use any other format. It's not really their fault though - you'd think by now a file system would be able to recognise a date format in a file/folder name and sort them properly. :rolleyes:

Topic, what topic?!
 
Re: Re: what bugs?

Originally posted by Rincewind42
1) No, I can't tell you actually, but
2) They are not things that normal users will come across. So don't worry about it - nothing that will eat your HD :D
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Psssst PM me and tell me ;)

so they are minor bugs then? that's good to hear... thanks

Thank You
MaT
 
Originally posted by alia
This is pretty exciting. :) My mom has been waiting diligently for Panther to be released. She has 10.1 and didn't want to upgrade to Jaguar if Panther was going to be right around the corner. I guess procrastination works sometimes.

Anyway, hopefully the mid-October thing is true. Yay!


Now if only they'd update their Powerbooks!

Alia
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Don't tell your mom 10.4 is probably "right around the corner" if you consider every 13 months right around the corner. I believe Jag came out in august 2002?
 
Originally posted by Mineral
Anyone with Panther:

HOW FAST IS IT??

Is it really a lot snappier than 10.2??

I can't wait to order Panther..
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Yes it is much quicker than Jaguar in many instances. Many people with low end G4's and even G3's are noticing an increase in speed in the OS.

I'm running it on a TiPB 800Mhz and have noticed a considerable increase in many of the apps.
 
Panther Advertisement?

Originally posted by daveL
Hmmm... release new features that haven't seen the light of day on product launch? Unless it's been secretly beta tested to the extreme, I find that highly unlikely. We don't want to start emulating M$'s idea of software development, do we?? Let's hope not!
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Sorry couldn't let this one go. What RU talking about?!?! MS locks their feature set at least 6 months to a year in advance of release. 9 times out of 10 if you can get your hands on a beta or one of the early release candidates its going to be identical to what's considered gold code...er...MS......tin code....nope still not right....lead code that is released to manufacturers. This is what has shocked me with Panther. After Jobs demoed Panther earlier this year everyone was so hopeful that X or Y would be added. I've never see this type of development on Windows. When you get a beta 8 months out or a RC 6 or 3 months out what's there is what's going to be in the final release. *shrugs* different strokes for different folks.

OK back on topic. This is really good news. Panther is going to be released to the masses just as the holiday buying season kicks off. I've never paid much attention in the past but does Apple actively advertise the release of any of its OS's? I don't remember ever seeing anything for Jaguar or X.1 Then again at the time I wasn't all that interested in anything Apple put out so it could have easily passed me by.
 
Will Xcode & Dev. Tools be finally on the Client Install CD??

This probably has been answered before but does anyone know if Xcode and the other Dev. Tools including the CLI stuff will be finally a part of the Install CD for the Client OS? Since PortsManager will be part of the OS now it would be nice. I do a lot of custom compiles of *nix Software on my machine and I always hated having to DL the Dev. Tools CD.
Cheers,

Ahmed
 
Re: Panther Advertisement?

Originally posted by SiliconAddict

OK back on topic. This is really good news. Panther is going to be released to the masses just as the holiday buying season kicks off. I've never paid much attention in the past but does Apple actively advertise the release of any of its OS's? I don't remember ever seeing anything for Jaguar or X.1 Then again at the time I wasn't all that interested in anything Apple put out so it could have easily passed me by.
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They had parties at the Apple stores when Jaguar came out. I live just a couple of blocks from the Palo Alto store, which is just a few blocks from where Steve Jobs lives. He was there, and approachable. There was a line that ran around the corner for hours.

Being the geek that I am, I showed up with a Jaguar print hat and shirt.

I hope Apple does release on 10/3...I don't know why, but I do think it's a cool idea. I also do think it will be ready by then. The latest betas are running damn fine for me. Now that Toast 6 is out, I'm all ready to go!
 
Originally posted by sebaz
Does anyone know if they fix that problem, where ... the balance goes off, anyone anyone?
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This is the most annoying problem. I really hope they fix it, as it's been with us (and widely known) all through 10.2
 
The developer seeds were distributed on more than 2 CD's.
You think there will be a DVD-verision of the installer? Or maybe one DVD, and 3/4 Cd's?
DVD would be gr8! But the CD's are needed aswell....
 
Originally posted by daveL
It's a non-ADC beta program, i.e. a beta program for end users, rather than developers (who can sometimes be myoptic (sp?)). I forget where the page is, but you can find the sign-up info on the Apple site. They only maintain a set number of folkds, so you may be rejected (not personally, of course) if they already have enough participants.
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Hmm, don't bother for now. There's a note on the sign-up page saying they're not looking for new testers and no way to sign up for the future.

Probably worth a look later on.

e.
 
Just wonderfull!

You know what I love the most?

Look at us! We, Apple enthousiasts are almost begging for a new OS!! Why? Because it gets BETTER! On the evil side, it's more like.. oh no.. again a new OS, now we have to upgrade.. all our programs.. again.. and we have to buy a new computer because it requiers more resources..

We get a more snappier OS every time! Apple tries to write good code.. Maybe that is a good thing about the fact that the G4 was not nr1 anymore.. they had to compensate the lack of speed (small lack) with better software! and I bet that 10.3 will scream on a G5!
 
Re: Just wonderfull!

Originally posted by Ge4-ce
You know what I love the most?

Look at us! We, Apple enthousiasts are almost begging for a new OS!! Why? Because it gets BETTER! On the evil side, it's more like.. oh no.. again a new OS, now we have to upgrade.. all our programs.. again.. and we have to buy a new computer because it requiers more resources..

We get a more snappier OS every time! Apple tries to write good code.. Maybe that is a good thing about the fact that the G4 was not nr1 anymore.. they had to compensate the lack of speed (small lack) with better software! and I bet that 10.3 will scream on a G5!
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That's right! My G4 400 is getting faster with each release. Can't wait for Panther. And it's an excellent engineering practice to improve the code you have instead of asking the users to upgrade their machine. Makes me almost proud of being a Mac user. :)
 
Re: Re: 10-3

Originally posted by Mac User Canada
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The ISO standard for dates is:

year.month.day

October 3rd, 2003 is properly denoted as:

2003.10.03

In other words, largest units to smallest units as in hours.minutes.seconds.

Americans don't typicaly conform to international standards so I'm curious to read the responses, if any, to these comments. :)

MUC
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I think the important thing is to make it increasing or decreasing. Use day/month/year or year/month/day, not month/day/year like I've seen some people use.
 
Re: Re: Panther Advertisement?

Originally posted by MacSlut
Now that Toast 6 is out, I'm all ready to go!
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I can't seem to get Toast 6 to work in Panther. It quits the installation process everytime.
 
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