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Panther to be Released in Last Week of October
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I just hope it's much faster than Jaguar and will make my iBook 800 fun to use instead of slow and annoying.
Originally posted by tutubibi
Maybe not, if it comes out tomorrow.
I think we will see some hardware update (iBook or eMac) before end of the month.
New machines may come preloaded with Panther even before official release.
The 17in iMac was released with Jaguar before it was released... so its very possible that panther will be loaded on any new hardware announced from here on. Woo Hoo!!!!
Build 39 made my sister's ibook 500 very responsive. So chances are your iBook 800 will be faster... noticably!
Re: Re: Re: $$ ??
I'd say it is about half/half. iChat and iCal have only worked on 10.2 plus, as well as Sherlock 3. For third party developers, I think that Quark 6 only works on Jaguar, and smaller software makers, like the guy who makes Acquisition, says that support anything before 10.2 is like support OS 9.
Hopefully people follow Apple's lead with iChat AV-making it both 10.2 and 10.3 compatible.
I'd say it is about half/half. iChat and iCal have only worked on 10.2 plus, as well as Sherlock 3. For third party developers, I think that Quark 6 only works on Jaguar, and smaller software makers, like the guy who makes Acquisition, says that support anything before 10.2 is like support OS 9.
Hopefully people follow Apple's lead with iChat AV-making it both 10.2 and 10.3 compatible.
I know DVD Studio Pro requires 10.2.6 or higher. Of course, it also requires a 733 MHz G4 processor, which is why it is sitting in a box next to my 500 MHz G3 iMac, but that is another thread.
Because there have been many improvements for developers with Panther.
Some widgets such as the search field (upper right of safari, mail,..), switcher thingie (jaguar finder switch between column, list, icon from the toolbar). If you want those in your jaguar application, you have to custom write them. For a panther application, it's a simple drag & drop.
A developer that implements text searching (such as mail/itunes), will have to code less on panther than on jaguar.
A panther developer also has a generic controller class available, where a jaguar developer has to write one himself.
Overall, if a panther developer wants to remain compatible with 10.2 and even 10.1, will have to do more work than if he just supports 10.3.
If a developer makes a new piece of software, which he expects to be released in 14 months.. He will probably think "by then, most of my target audience will have atleast 10.3, some even 10.4. I'm gonna forget about <10.2, and just do 10.3.
My thoughts EXACTLY! That store is MUCH nearer to me than the one in Columbus. I intend to go there and get a G5 with Panther after the store opens, maybe in early November 2003?
10/30 people. Panther will be released on 10/30.
It can't be released on the 24th because that isn't the last week of October. But 10/30 would make up for missing the 10/3 ship date.
It will be our halloween TRICK for Microsoft, and a TREAT for us.
It can't be released on the 24th because that isn't the last week of October. But 10/30 would make up for missing the 10/3 ship date.
It will be our halloween TRICK for Microsoft, and a TREAT for us.
Not really..
They can simply give out a 50% off coupon or something like that. I get coupons from Apple all the time on either apple store purchases, surveys or from the .Mac...I think I've had 5 this year so far!..
One for 50% off for OS X 10.3 wouldn't be a problem... After all, you can get Version Tracker Pro for a discount, why not an OS..
They can simply give out a 50% off coupon or something like that. I get coupons from Apple all the time on either apple store purchases, surveys or from the .Mac...I think I've had 5 this year so far!..
One for 50% off for OS X 10.3 wouldn't be a problem... After all, you can get Version Tracker Pro for a discount, why not an OS..
Re: Not really..
50% off is possible, but what achmafooma said was to give it in DMGs like ADC for free. that would not happen. discounts yes, free, no.
here's to hoping 10.4 will be a free update (like 10.1 was)
50% off is possible, but what achmafooma said was to give it in DMGs like ADC for free. that would not happen. discounts yes, free, no.
here's to hoping 10.4 will be a free update
(like 10.1 was)
I'm really looking forward to 10.3 but I have to wonder.. once we get panther, there should also be a new version of imovie, idvd, iphoto, ical... all the iapps should get a remake.. do i have to shell out another $100 to get those iUpdates as well? Where does it stop?
This week I'm heading to Texas, maybe its a good time to start backing up data externally so when Panther is released I can format and fresh install.... I'd feel so much cleaner.
This week I'm heading to Texas, maybe its a good time to start backing up data externally so when Panther is released I can format and fresh install.... I'd feel so much cleaner.
That's exactly how I feel. Even though $100 per year would probably be too 'low'. Even then you would have ppl complaining about "oh I don't need this, I don't need that, can you make a cheaper version for those who don't need those features, etc...".
Are you planning on buying a new computer? If not I'm sure the guys at MacBidouille (or HardMac for the english version) might have a workaround for you to be able to use on your iMac. That being said, it will probably be reaaaaal slow...
Nice... personally there's nothing I love more than stealing from a company that makes my life easier, more enjoyable, and such cool little toys. Sometimes I try to think of ways to fit powerbooks down the front of my pants so I can waddle out of the Apple Store without rising any eyebrows (I typically explain that "I just REALLY, REALLY like Apple.").
Apple has always shipped the most recent version of it's iApps with OS releases. And regardless, you can get free updates to everything but iDVD online anyway (which, btw, is due to the fact that it takes up over 3/4 Gig of disk space uncompressed - damn...)
Can't comment on if Panther will ship with iDVD however, no clue on that one.
You realize that Apple has been doing yearly (paid) releases since Mac OS 8.0 right? Granted the OS was US$30 cheaper then (CAN$50?) then, but regardless it was still a once a year deal. The only difference between now and then was that we used to get .1 updates at the half year and now we get .0.1 updates throughout the year.
At this year's WWDC most of the new gee-wiz stuff was for 10.3 only.
My concern is that by making each annual upgrade a $130 event, Apple is fragmenting the consumer market.
If you are a developer and want to use a new 10.3 widget (e.g., search), then you have to estimate what percent of users will have 10.3 in n months time when you release your product.
To say Apple has X% of the market is misleading. As a developer you have to ask, what percent of the market can run the software if I use features A, B, and C?
Oh well... I am ready to jump on 10.3
Oh Really? I guess the upgrade I got to OSX when they released it (after I purchased a mac with 9 on it) didn't count? Apple has historically allowed you to upgrade software for $19.95 (to cover shipping and handling) if they release a new version within 90 days, that's what the coupons used to be for.