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Papermaster's Departure Linked to 'Cultural Incompatibility' Rather Than Antenna Issues
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Typical... when somebody has a different view from yours, just insult them and call them trolls!
"Steve, this phone is garbage, the users and the media will kick our ass for it."
-"Nooooo! It's magic! Do not doubt St. Jobs!"
"But...!"
-"BEGONE!"
I know it's not Apple's style but I personally think a lot of value comes from customer beta testing. I'm sure they have great internal QA, but far too many things are coming up with their products right after release. I think with more customer beta testing you would see less of that. They can certainly put people under non-disclosure agreements and such.
Which is why there's a high return rate on the iPhone 4 and sales have plummeted.
I take it you are being sarcastic. As we all know, neither has happened.
TwinCities Dan said:Any data to back up those claims?
Check the sensitivity setting on your sarcasm detector. That's the whole point: There IS no high return rate, and sales are NOT plummeting. We're all (or most of us) in agreement that this is largely a non-issue in terms of real world user experience. It's an issue only in other (albeit important) arenas like public perception and the company's reputation.
Exactly! Coming from a typical corporate environment where supervisors and department heads attain their position by kissing ass then no longer have to do any real work and then going into an environment where you are actually expected to know what the hell is going on probably did him in.
Yep..
I've been telling people since day one it's overweight people who eat a lot of greasy potato chips that cause call drops because my dry as a bone fingers can't get the darned thing to fail.
I've been telling people since day one it's overweight people who eat a lot of greasy potato chips that cause call drops because my dry as a bone fingers can't get the darned thing to fail.
Some of your comment are surprising, coming from an investor. Yes, increased shareholder value is the ultimate metric for comparing two companies. However, neither margins nor debt matter in comparing two businesses that are as unlike as Walmart and Apple. Open any basic finance textbook and read the section on capital structure irrelevance (aka "Modigliani-Miller"). Walmart takes on a lot of debt precisely because they are in a low-margin retail sector. Walmart's entire strategy is to keep margins low and "make it up in volume." Debt financing is one of their tools, and clearly they are excellent at it.
Faking it - Wall Street Edition
But he was so happy to be able to buy his candies with his own money! Those candies leverage the risk of holding two imaginary AAPLs. Don't mock his portfolio and his ability to put a few terms into a search engine!
He only does it in MOST threads that he visits. I wanted to collect a few posts from cvaldes that included "as an APPLE shareholder/as an investor", but suddenly I found a few that didn't say that at all and only focused on denying that there is an issue with the iP4's reception.
Anyway, I asked the man as many before me did and he just ignores the matter, while attempting to maintain an image of somebody who matters.
But be careful with him! Apparently, he recently upgraded to a Mac Mini and he's got an iPod Touch! This Wall Street shark has got the power to play The Sims 2: Open for Business Expansion Pack!
But he was so happy to be able to buy his candies with his own money! Those candies leverage the risk of holding two imaginary AAPLs. Don't mock his portfolio and his ability to put a few terms into a search engine!
He only does it in MOST threads that he visits. I wanted to collect a few posts from cvaldes that included "as an APPLE shareholder/as an investor", but suddenly I found a few that didn't say that at all and only focused on denying that there is an issue with the iP4's reception.
Anyway, I asked the man as many before me did and he just ignores the matter, while attempting to maintain an image of somebody who matters.
But be careful with him! Apparently, he recently upgraded to a Mac Mini and he's got an iPod Touch! This Wall Street shark has got the power to play The Sims 2: Open for Business Expansion Pack!
I concur.
This whole news coverage about Papermaster is a total BS, even from a rumour perspective. It's totally circumstantial, full of blown up speculations and totally disconnected information. Trolls just keep feeding on no-news made into helium balloons by sensationalist bloggers.
Observe this: iPhone 4 was in development since at least early 2008, and so was this new antenna design. Papermaster started to work officially at least one year and a few months afterwards. For an executive to get familiarised with the new company and its inner workings takes at least 4-6 months, and then about the same that time to see if that environment is right for him or not. He was not supposed to make changes to things that have been decided long before him.
Add to this that Papermaster was never in the iPhone launch video, never in any kind of presentation about it -- although he was a "head" of that department. That can only means he was expected to leave after the launch of the new iPhone. Otherwise he'd be there somewhere if he was really contributing to it and was planning to stay and contribute more to the company.
The news about his resignation has been made official after the international iPhone launch (we all know international networks are ways superior to AT&T and iPhone has no issues there; sorry US, it just proves once again it's the problem with you, not those little toys you don't even deserve to touch or comment about).
An executive has also a different resignation procedure -- he can't just say 'goodbye' and be gone. We're talking about someone who takes up several months just to dwell into the role. So I suspect he has resigned before the iPhone 4 launch, and was given green light to do it after the international iPhone launch, when all is done and iPhone is just selling steadily.
And that silly note that "it was Jobs who decided on this design .." makes all this story a total untrue BS. Geez, are you Americans for real? Can't you see the fallacy of this whole 'issue'? It seems only you can think that kind of rubbish is true. No engineering company works like that. Apple would be long gone if one man decides upon everything, same as every family breaks apart if only one person has the voice. It's the collaboration and good communication between members that makes healthy families, good companies and good societies stable and prosper. If you ask yourself why some country (like yours) is clueless and in shambles, just observe how segregated your society is; all parties work against each other, same as you do within your families, fan clubs, etc.
Please grow up. And stick to each other, try to better your lives.
Um, because it doesn't 'suck' and actually provides superior reception for most users?
Not to mention more battery room ergo longer life.
That because he doesn't want to get taxed on his salary. He receives tens of millions of dollars in "incentives" which are taxed much lower.
Most of the people here that claim they are shareholders make me laugh. Just because you have a few shares doesn't mean you can go tooting your horn like you are someone special. Some of us here have 10's of thousands of dollars in shares (IE me as an employee for 3 years most of my stock purchased at 32 a share.)
Apple likes its senior management staff to be "hands on" and involved in every detail of their products. Papermaster was obviously a "delegator" and felt he was above being involved in such minutiae. I bet you he reminded Jobs of Gil Amelio or the Pepsi guy. HE WAS A LAZY CORPORATE TYPE. Good-by and good-riddance.
Why have someone in the chain of command who doesn't support your vision or philosophy for your company?
Why have someone in the chain of command who doesn't support your vision or philosophy for your company?
Any data to back up those claims?
Yeah there are no freaking iPhone 4s to be found in the wild in most parts of the country.
Save your typing fingers dude, cvaldes never misses an opportunity to bore us to death with his tales of AAPL share ownership and child-like grasp of how business works.
It's not just on this forum, here he is in action on CNET and Appleinsider. Imagine getting stuck in a lift with this guy.
If they consider good PR telling people that "no, it wasn't the antenna, we just didn't like the guy so we fired him. The antenna was pushed by Steve, and had 2 years of testing, so we knew it ****ing blew but we also knew it didn't matter because it would sell like hot cakes." then I don't even know what to say. Good on them for being honest?
Also, I must say, mad respect for firing people who don't fit the company culture. I am so tired of companies keeping employees that are obviously useless, because they don't want to go through the hassle of firing them. If the guy doesn't fit, say it like it is and get someone who does.