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Parallels Desktop 11 for Mac Released With Windows 10 and Cortana Support

kaz911 said:
I think the GBP 35 you paid is only for the first year. There after they will take about double up - so about GBP 70 automatically. And they tempt you with the 1/2 price offer and hope you forget about it and then kick yourself in the backside when they "auto debit" your card with the full price next year - and probably without warning if I'm to predict future behavior based on past behavior.

I to think Parallels has become a parasite company - paying > 50% every year for "upgrades" is crazy. Especially since you can probably pick it up for the same price in a bundle at some point.
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From the purchase page:

This is a subscription product with a fee of £34.99 per year. You may cancel your subscription at any time.

So I do not expect the subscription to increase to ~£70 next year
 
philipk said:
I always love people who want something for nothing. People who don't value the work of others. $49 to update a program as powerful as Parallels is chump change. If it is too much for you, you don't need Parallels. People are entitled to be paid for their labors.
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Sorry, I agree somewhat with the OP. I paid $79 for three different licenses of Parallels, because they don't offer a discount for buying more than one license, or the ability to use a license on more than one computer. Then they want $50 for each license to upgrade every year. And their tech support for that cost is pretty shameful. $30 would be a fair price for upgrades as long as you're within two license cycles.
 
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b-dogg said:
How do you find bootcamp? You need to be quite tech-savy to use it?

The reason I ask is that I need to deal with a parallels in my unpaid admin job (tech son duties!) for family who went Mac and need a handful of Win only programs. I'd fear that dual booting would freak them out. Parallels does make things really easy - like dragging and dropping between both OS's and also the ability to copy a virtual machine and move it to a new system without having to rebuild windows from scratch.

I'm getting really sick of telling them to update to the latest OSX version, then getting the phonecall that "parallels has stopped working".
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I think the move here is to get them off of as many of the Windows programs as possible. There are good (often better) OS X options for most all Windows programs. I use Parallels only for one program. And I use it about two or three times a year. I'm about to move to Bootcamp for my needs.
 
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rdlink said:
Sorry, I agree somewhat with the OP. I paid $79 for three different licenses of Parallels, because they don't offer a discount for buying more than one license, or the ability to use a license on more than one computer. Then they want $50 for each license to upgrade every year. And their tech support for that cost is pretty shameful. $30 would be a fair price for upgrades as long as you're within two license cycles.
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So $30 is ok, but $50 breaks the bank? That makes no sense.
 
rdlink said:
Sorry, I agree somewhat with the OP. I paid $79 for three different licenses of Parallels, because they don't offer a discount for buying more than one license, or the ability to use a license on more than one computer. Then they want $50 for each license to upgrade every year. And their tech support for that cost is pretty shameful. $30 would be a fair price for upgrades as long as you're within two license cycles.
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Thanks. VMWare seems to make plenty of money with better support and fewer major versions that demand $$$. With Parallels, it seems that any minor change requires $50. With VMWare, there are fewer major versions and for that matter fewer bugs. I remember every time I ran Parallels, getting either some offer to buy something else or an update to download and install. VMWare doesn't do that and I suspect it's because they're just better programmers — or they have managers who are willing to hold back until testing is complete rather than using us as beta testers.
 
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I'm been thinking about getting into the 'analyst' career field, so here's my official rumour prediction: Parallels has started working on Parallels 12 that will be released in approximately one year as a paid upgrade to bring support for Windows 10 on OS X 10.12.
 
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Capt Crunch said:
Wait... if I have a subscription I still have to pay for an upgrade to 11? What is the point of the annual subscription if I don't get free upgrades?
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Users on a subscription (full Parallels subscription, not the Parallels Access companion app) get the upgrade included in the subscription fee.

kaz911 said:
I think the GBP 35 you paid is only for the first year. There after they will take about double up - so about GBP 70 automatically.
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I couldn't see anything to suggest that's the case, it read as though that's the ongoing yearly fee to me. In any event, I'm not sure how they'd plan to win customers into their subscription model other than business users if they were to charge twice the price for the subscription to what they do for upgrades, unless they move to a much more rapid major release cycle which I doubt will happen. At the current price point the subscription isn't that bad value for anyone upgrading every year anyway. At twice the price that'd likely not be the case.
 
I stopped using Parallels years ago because it does indeed break with every single OS X update.

I'm starting to think this is intentional. I doubt Apple completely tears the API up every year breaking VM container software. Other software runs fine year after year without issue.

Much as I hate Oracle, VirtualBox meets my needs, doesn't break all the time and is free. So there.
 
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If you have version 10 there's basically no reason to go to 11 right now. Everything works perfectly fine. Also this is why I purchase the OEM verison of parallels, costs to much to update all the time directly from the company. Outside sources like ebay are much cheaper.
 
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Parallels is the more expensive one, but it is also the one that gives you better performance right?

Any one who gets a chance to use Parallels with Win10 on a modern macbook, please come back and tell me if you can play games on it
 
chabig said:
So $30 is ok, but $50 breaks the bank? That makes no sense.
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I hate that car sales argument of "what's x more dollars will do, what's the big deal", yes we can afford to pay those extra dollars but doesn't mean we SHOULD...Just because you can afford something doesn't mean you should buy it or pay for it in general. In counter argument, is that $20 difference gonna break their banks?

In any case, I don't care much about Parallels money grabbing updates since the Mac Office 2016 is finally coming!
 
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I've grown tired of both the VMWare and the Parallels subscription model no matter what they call it. Found VirtualBox serves my needs (virtualizing multiple Linux environments and sometimes Windows) good enough and it is free. Although still fear Oracle screwing that up like they have so many other things.
 
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rdlink said:
I think the move here is to get them off of as many of the Windows programs as possible. There are good (often better) OS X options for most all Windows programs. I use Parallels only for one program. And I use it about two or three times a year. I'm about to move to Bootcamp for my needs.
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Cheers,

Yeah, trying to migrate them to OSX native apps. It's proprietary windows apps that certain business have written for them, and Irish accounting/payroll software that I cannot get around. Those companies have no interest in supporting OSX natively as they're firmly entrenched in Windows enterprise land.

The struggles I endure to lead people to the promised land!
 
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Does PD 10 work with El Capitan beta 6 without disabling rootless? How about PD 11?

Thanks.
 
tkukoc said:
If you have version 10 there's basically no reason to go to 11 right now. Everything works perfectly fine. Also this is why I purchase the OEM verison of parallels, costs to much to update all the time directly from the company. Outside sources like ebay are much cheaper.
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So you are confirming that running parallels 10 in El Capitan works? I'm nervous to upgrade to El Capitan if Parallels 10 doesn't run properly with my Windows 7 VM install.
 
For people complaining of upgrade pricing. eBay is awash in $25 P10 copies. Pick one up and you get automatic upgrade to P11 under their tech guarantee program.
 
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Windows Pro has come with Hyper-V VM support since Windows 8, and a free VMfor the last few years. It would be great if Mac OS could do the same thing. For now, it is easier for me to just use dropbox or another network share for file sharing, and use MS Remote Desktop to an old Windows machine I have sitting quietly in a closet, accessible locally, or through VPN when I'm out of the house.
 
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