Plus all the time to get all your apps up and running. I absolutely hate rebooting, it's just wasted effort and time.Wow it's such a limitation to wait just 10 seconds to switch OSs.
I've never used Bootcamp...
Plus all the time to get all your apps up and running. I absolutely hate rebooting, it's just wasted effort and time.Wow it's such a limitation to wait just 10 seconds to switch OSs.
Not to mention the boot environment is totally different now.It would be very difficult since it would require Windows drivers for Apple Silicon.
Bootcamp works perfectly on Apples’s current Mac Pro. 😂We're in our 3rd year of Apple Silicon and no Bootcamp in sight.
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Ding ding. But even running 32bit stuff via something like Crossover has a bad performance penalty due to some bug in Rosetta.
DirectX 12 is not available in Windows 11 Arm in Parallels Desktop, whereas (as far as I can tell) it is when Windows 11 is running natively on Arm.I know folks want BootCamp, but I really don't understand why. Sure it allows tapping into the full power of the hardware, but that was mostly needed for gaming and other resource intensive applications. Those apps generally don't run or completely suck on Windows ARM!
So my question is, what would BootCamp enable for y'all that can't be done effectively in a VM?
Nobody should expect to do any gaming in a virtual machine...
Why? There are some older games you can’t play on modern hardware any other way.Nobody should expect to do any gaming in a virtual machine...
I agree. So why are so many complaining about Apple not implementing Bootcamp on Silicon machines? Is this just more of the Apple hate that now pervades the forum?It would be very difficult since it would require Windows drivers for Apple Silicon.
Let me help you here. All macs used to be Intel based. But at this point most Mac have moved on to Silicon. Silicon Macs can't run Bootcamp. The MacPro is one of the very last machines using Intel, so Bootcamp will work. So, of course it runs on your MacPro. Let me know if there is anything else you need some help with.Bootcamp works perfectly on Apples’s current Mac Pro. 😂
It's not at all expensive if you are earning a living because of the ability to run Windows on a new fast Mac Silicon machine. I can make enough to cover the cost of Parallels for many years in just a 1/2 hour running the necessary PC software on my Mac. If you get a professional job that requires a PC, you'll discover the same thing. And years of a Parallels subscription will cost less than a decent PC, monitors etc. And with Parallels, I can easily switch between the Mac and PC sides using the same computer, monitors, keyboard, and mouse.Parallels Desktop is expensive software for professional use. Whatever happened to the days when Virtualbox would run just about anything relatively modern?
Yes that's why I said for professional use. As you can tell I'm not a professional of the type that has to work with Windows, thankfully...It's not at all expensive if you are earning a living because of the ability to run Windows on a new fast Mac Silicon machine. I can make enough to cover the cost of Parallels for many years in just a 1/2 hour running the necessary PC software on my Mac. If you get a professional job that requires a PC, you'll discover the same thing. And years of a Parallels subscription will cost less than a decent PC, monitors etc. And with Parallels, I can easily switch between the Mac and PC sides using the same computer, monitors, keyboard, and mouse.
Parallels also offers a $99 version that is not a subscription. It has lower limits to the RAM and virtual CPUs to allocate to the VM, but should work for most productivity applications.It's not at all expensive if you are earning a living because of the ability to run Windows on a new fast Mac Silicon machine. I can make enough to cover the cost of Parallels for many years in just a 1/2 hour running the necessary PC software on my Mac. If you get a professional job that requires a PC, you'll discover the same thing. And years of a Parallels subscription will cost less than a decent PC, monitors etc. And with Parallels, I can easily switch between the Mac and PC sides using the same computer, monitors, keyboard, and mouse.
I don't give a crap about games. Many people use a PC to run software to make a living. The gamer seem to think that it's all about gaming. It's not. It's also about business and other professional uses. If people can stop being game-centric for just a minute, they'll understand that.Why? There are some older games you can’t play on modern hardware any other way.
Wow, such a helpful soul! I’ll bet SFjohn didn’t know that; he must be ever so grateful to have been enlightened by you.Let me help you here. All macs used to be Intel based. But at this point most Mac have moved on to Silicon. Silicon Macs can't run Bootcamp. The MacPro is one of the very last machines using Intel, so Bootcamp will work. So, of course it runs on your MacPro. Let me know if there is anything else you need some help with.
I think this is pretty old fashioned thinking. The experts on the Max Tech youtube channel did a recent video on just this which reinforces the old way of thinking are dead.Nobody should expect to do any gaming in a virtual machine...
So if you don’t give a crap about games, why are you giving gamers advice about what they should or should not expect to be able to do? Live and let live.I don't give a crap about games. Many people use a PC to run software to make a living. The gamer seem to think that it's all about gaming. It's not. It's also about business and other professional uses. If people can stop being game-centric for just a minute, they'll understand that.
Thanks. I may take the plunge for Home Use at first and I’d it works well get the full license.I had good luck using an earlier preview on my M1 Macbook Air with ArcMap but now I just remote in to my work machine using VMWare Horizon or TeamViewer/Moonlight to my Windows computer at home which is now relegated to a dark corner. Been doing it this way on my Intel and Apple Silicon Macs and find it works great. Everything runs natively and pretty easy to get setup. For instances where I need to do GIS work in the field with no internet access I just use QGIS which works great in Rosetta 2 and an Apple Silicon version is already floating around and apparently works well.
I'd like to see Esri officially support macOS and in my last meeting with Esri Canada reps they said it is an often-requested feature so who knows!
Does VBox support Apple Silicon HV extensions? It's more an x86 virtualization technology last time I looked at their product. VM Ware Fusion is free for non-commercial use so I don't think Parallels is the only possibility.Parallels Desktop is expensive software for professional use. Whatever happened to the days when Virtualbox would run just about anything relatively modern?
DirectX 12 is not available in Windows 11 Arm in Parallels Desktop, whereas (as far as I can tell) it is when Windows 11 is running natively on Arm.
How well DirectX 12 games run on Arm natively, I don’t know, but they won’t run at all in Parallels.
No. You said "Parallels Desktop is expensive software for professional use". I said it's not expensive for professional use if you are using it for creating income. I hate the PC, but the software I need to use can only be run on a PC. And it's far cheaper to pay for many years of Parallels than to buy a PC, monitors, etc to create the workstation when I have a fabulous Mac and PC workstation on a Mac Silicon side by side.Yes that's why I said for professional use. As you can tell I'm not a professional of the type that has to work with Windows, thankfully...
I see. Parallels Desktop is expensive software, for professional use. This is one case where adding a comma really helps maybeNo. You said "Parallels Desktop is expensive software for professional use". I said it's not expensive for professional use if you are using it for creating income. I hate the PC, but the software I need to use can only be run on a PC. And it's far cheaper to pay for many years of Parallels than to buy a PC, monitors, etc to create the workstation when I have a fabulous Mac and PC workstation on a Mac Silicon side by side.
But VMWare Tools for Apple Silicon is so crippled with missing features as to absolutely worthless to me whether or not it's free. No multi-monitor support, no copy/paste support with the Mac, no shared folders with the Mac. There are all done very well with Paralles. I really wish that people would stop claiming that VMWare is equivalent to Parallels in functionality, It simply isn't. Go to the Fusion discussion section on VMWare's web site and see how many people are mad and irritated with VMWare because of this and are threatening to move over to Parallels. What is so great about something for free when it is so useless for many? Free is sometimes anything but free. And Fusion is only free for personal use. If for professional use, you should be paying for it.Does VBox support Apple Silicon HV extensions? It's more an x86 virtualization technology last time I looked at their product. VM Ware Fusion is free for non-commercial use so I don't think Parallels is the only possibility.
Maybe I'm uninformed about the English language, but aren't you again saying it's expensive for professional use? I use it for business (professionally) and I consider it a bargain given how much money I make using Parallels. If Parallels cost twice as much, I'd still consider it a bargain. I don't spend my time looking for free software. I spend my time earning money so I don't have to look for cheaper inferior software.I see. Parallels Desktop is expensive software, for professional use. This is one case where adding a comma really helps maybe![]()
There's a beta version on their website with ARM support! Must be pretty recent, I never saw that before. Maybe then it'd be possible to install ARM Windows 11, even if not supported? Someone should look into this.Does VBox support Apple Silicon HV extensions? It's more an x86 virtualization technology last time I looked at their product. VM Ware Fusion is free for non-commercial use so I don't think Parallels is the only possibility.