BTW on the 8x first on the PC. Have you kept up on that side of the fence? It seems that some of those with 8x AGP motherboards are having trouble with some of the 8x AGP cards from ATI. And guess what? It appears to be the motherboard manufacturer's problem. It's not everywhere but it does exist and the motherboard manufacturers are addressing it with bios upgrades. Now wouldn't it be a better plan for Apple to get it right and out somewhat quickly than being first on the block?
i like who wrote this, i was not ever saying the pc was better, or that they did it right, i just said they did it first, it was the same point i had on firewire and 1394, via technologies was one of the first manufacturers of 1394, they said, and state on their site that a technologist from apple concieved the idea for a better way to connect devices, before anything was made or devloped apple had branded and trademarked the idea which the guy could not trademark on his own becuase when you work for a business any work you do involving tech like that is owned by the company you work for unless they do not want it, the same way that apple had to ask permission for their first computers, after this, since apple does not work in hardware like this, they pawned it off to 100s of manufaturers to develop and create, a few boards, from tyan, most with via apollo and other chipsets were the first, but there were some not so known names that had boards with it as well, which brings to the point of what the person with the above quote got to, apple made it better, best, solid as well as all mac developers supported it, with the pc it's usb, then 1394, back and forth, then usb 2, i mean it was a make up your mind game, apple didn't have this problem, nor does it.
so maybe, well no not maybe, i should have made myself more clear and i will fully post my sources at all times from now on, i mean damn did i get flamed for that, which i now understand.
somebody else brought up that agp will die out and even pci x has limits. good point, i personally always hated how there was only one agp slot and how i really wanted a second at the same speed, probably i'd use the same card, we have a mac in the office that has one pci and one agp, now with newer cards i bet this doesn't happen but on ours which is a ati rage 128 and a radeon, well you can see the display speed difference in drawing, so on our dual monitor, it's hrd to work, well, frustrating...
apple is very smart to keep putting money into technoilogies like this, but they also need a team working side by side on it, so they get a piece of it right away as well. they also need, and i hear rumors about it, a high end CAD or video card, such like they used to have the mtrox series in full swing and now they have like 1 item i think, that external box. they need more. for maya i'd love a nvidia geforce 4 quadro 750gxl. things lik this would also help.
hope i'm done being flamed for this thread at least, i'm sure more will come in the future.