PCI-Express, AGP 8x

[Telomar]

Just to make one important point there is a difference between white box PCs and the top tier PC manufacturers. The top tier manufacturers, like HP and Dell, tend to be far more sluggish with bringing technologies to market.

Unlike the Mac market there is considerably more competition in the PC motherboard market so of course the white box PC market will be first out the door with most technologies. If you want to compare Apple to anyone you need to compare Apple to those larger computer manufacturers and not component companies.

 

[Chryx]

Re: Re: FireWire

Originally posted by Cappy

It might be a sign of things to come but they are one of the first to deliver a 166Mhz frontside bus in the PC world. AMD is just about there and Intel hasn't made it yet. Many don't realize how significant that actually is even if overclockers on the PC side have been doing this for awhile.

That kinda fails to impress me in the slightest, as it's still a single data rate bus, so whilst the physical clock might be higher, it's still slower overall by quite a large margin.

could this be the "Bus Mhz Myth"

 

[DharvaBinky]

Today is the worst day to buy a computer.

Originally posted by shadowfax0
This really makes me think about when to buy a new computer...all these new standards and things, alot of different levels to think on rather the just the CPU or RAM...

Back in the day, I was the lead technician for an apple repair house, and then moved into sales... Coming from the "honest and upfront" level of customer service that I got in tech, I told my customers in sales this:

"Today is the worst day to buy a computer. It's true. Next week, there will be something faster, better, and cheaper. But that will also be true of the week after that and the week after that. If you need it now, buy it now. If you can wait, wait. It's not a question of will I make out better if I wait, it should be a question of, how can this computer help me now."

Strangely... that usually sold them right away. <shrug>



Dharvabinky

 

[DharvaBinky]

Re: I want to see what Mozez has to say now.

Originally posted by Wyvernspirit
After his last comment everyone went out and got information that completely discredits him. I like google as much as the next guy, but don't base your "facts" on just the first couple of hits on one search engine. If I believed everything of what every media giant says, Apple should of died 12 times by now. I believe they are still around.

Anyone, am I right, is Apple still in business? Still making NEW things?

I agree here... Apple is still in business... of setting the bar.

They don't invent every new technology, and how could they, really... what they do is set the usability bar very very high for the rest of the world to try to jump over (and usually fail). USB is a great example. Does USB *still* work quite right in WinXP? Nahhh... it's kinda annoying.

With a few exceptions, Apple is consistently the first to market with a simple and stable implementation of the newest technology. Look at USB 2.0... the chipsets are out en masse, and PC boards are covered with them, but apart from external hard drives, I haven't seen too many USB 2.0 devices out there... And there are still bugs with making 2.0 work with 1.2... A little patience and Apple will have USB 2.0 and it will work, while Wintel people are still having to download the latest versions of drivers from a website...

When it comes to the Interconnect bus, Apple gladly left Texas Instrument's NuBus (I remember *that* particular nightmare) when it was time, and when PCI is dead, they'll leave too. But as the little guy here, they'll *have* to go with whatever Intel starts putting in the standard Spec boards. Otherwise, no one would make cards for it (remember IBM's MicroChannel?). Intel is shying away from Infiniband and emphasizing PCI-X, so I would say that Macs leaving AGP and PCI for PCI-X is kinda a no-brainer... ya know?

Dharvabinky

 

[pgwalsh]

Re: Re: I want to see what Mozez has to say now.

Originally posted by DharvaBinky
Does USB *still* work quite right in WinXP? Nahhh... it's kinda annoying.

I agree with this statement totally.

I have many headaches with usb devices on wxp pro. For one, many are not hot plugable. I don't know if it's wxp or the company that made the driver. I have a hp 8200 series cd writer and I can't hot plug it. I have to do a restart every time. However I think it's the software that has the issue. The software has also caused some system crashes, but you'd never know without the task manager. But other usb device have problems and it hasn't been a joy in the least.

On my mac I've had only one problem with a usb device and it wasn't too major. My Imation superdisk isn't always recognized. To solve the problem I unplug the power in the back and plugit back in. Then it's recognized. It's one of the first models and I'm sure it's the device and not my mac.