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I seriously doubt you'll be able to get a full charge in only a half hour. And plus that's a half hour that you won't be getting your notifications on your wrist.

Sounds like Apple's old mantra of "fills 80% in 1 hour, fills 100% in 4 hours" battery charging speak. Aren't you supposed to not do those mini-charges on batteries? I think if something has a non replaceable battery you really want to avoid charging half an hour over dinner.

How long do you predict it will take to fully recharge a ~350 mAh battery?

(For reference, it takes just over two hours to fully recharge an iPhone 6 with it's 1810 mAh battery.)
 
I seriously doubt you'll be able to get a full charge in only a half hour. And plus that's a half hour that you won't be getting your notifications on your wrist.

Why do you doubt that? The battery is under 400 mah/hr (might have the unit wrong). That's TINY.
 
Thanks for the clarification! Not sure how I got it mixed up with actually being waterproof. Now looking at the Kickstarter again I do see that they mention it is safe for showering and swimming.

It looks like apple said the apple watch will be shower proof though :)
 
Why do you doubt that? The battery is under 400 mah/hr (might have the unit wrong). That's TINY.

The battery in my Pebble and Plantronics Legend are even smaller than that, and even that take more than a half hour to fully change.
 
The battery in my Pebble and Plantronics Legend are even smaller than that, and even that take more than a half hour to fully change.
Same here, Pebble doesn't have any expertise is power management, let alone burst charging.

As for plantronics, I have no clue.
 
How long do you predict it will take to fully recharge a ~350 mAh battery?

(For reference, it takes just over two hours to fully recharge an iPhone 6 with it's 1810 mAh battery.)

The thing to remember about battery charging is that it's not linear. It starts out fast, but gradually slows down to avoid overcharging. For a small battery that slowdown rate is much quicker than with a large battery. Meaning that it doesn't scale exactly.
 
The thing to remember about battery charging is that it's not linear. It starts out fast, but gradually slows down to avoid overcharging. For a small battery that slowdown rate is much quicker than with a large battery.

That's one approach to charging. You're talking what's the norm in mobile phone charging currently. As far as I'm aware that approach was developed because it made the most sense in the mobile phone use case. It doesn't seem to be the approach taken in applications like laptops, but they both use Li-ion batteries.

Granted, you may have more information on Li-ion characteristics, so know would be a good time if you have some insider info. I like to learn.
 
That's one approach to charging. You're talking what's the norm in mobile phone charging currently. As far as I'm aware that approach was developed because it made the most sense in the mobile phone use case. It doesn't seem to be the approach taken in applications like laptops, but they both use Li-ion batteries.

Granted, you may have more information on Li-ion characteristics, so know would be a good time if you have some insider info. I like to learn.

Laptops charge the same basic way as cell phones. And the nature Li-Ion technology is hardly "insider information".
 
The thing to remember about battery charging is that it's not linear. It starts out fast, but gradually slows down to avoid overcharging. For a small battery that slowdown rate is much quicker than with a large battery. Meaning that it doesn't scale exactly.

Fair enough.

So how long do you predict it will take to fully recharge a ~350 mAh battery?
 
LOL. Anyone can click order. The amount of cancelations will be epic. That is not money in their pocket today.

Even if half the orders are canceled, they'll still be many time above their funding goal.

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Fair enough.

So how long do you predict it will take to fully recharge a ~350 mAh battery?

Probably around 2-3 hours.
 
Pebble has another countdown going on their main website.

66 hours to ...

My guess is the new firmware.
 
LOL. Anyone can click order. The amount of cancelations will be epic. That is not money in their pocket today.

What are some past major cancellations on Kickstarter? Have there been millions of dollars in pledges cancelled? Just curious.
 
And? Apple will kill that amount in several seconds.

It's a step backwards watch.

For you perhaps, but for those like myself, the Apple Watch's poor battery life puts it a step backwards. I don't really care about monitoring my heart rate, and since I only have a 5c, I can't use ApplePay anyway. What I do care about is not having to worry about charging yet another device every night. Especially since I occasionally use that device as a wakeup.

I also prefer physical buttons on my watch so that I can use it as a remote for things like music without having to even look at either screen.

Though the Apple Watch will probably will outsell the Pebble... unless it proves to be a dud, which has happened a handful of Apple products in the past... honestly I don't care. I don't buy things just because they are popular. I buy them because they fit my particular needs. And as it stands now, the Pebble fits my needs better than the Apple Watch.
 
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Even if half the orders are canceled, they'll still be many time above their funding goal.

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Probably around 2-3 hours.

My original pebble doesn't take anywhere near that much time to charge. I don't know exactly, but I know a 10min charge will last me all day, as I charge mine while I'm in the shower.
 
For you perhaps, but for those like myself, the Apple Watch's poor battery life puts it a step backwards. I don't really care about monitoring my heart rate, and since I only have a 5c, I can't use ApplePay anyway. What I do care about is not having to worry about charging yet another device every night. Especially since I occasionally use that device as a wakeup.

I also prefer physical buttons on my watch so that I can use it as a remote for things like music without having to even look at either screen.

Though the Apple Watch will probably will outsell the Pebble... unless it proves to be a dud, which has happened a handful of Apple products in the past... honestly I don't care. I don't buy things just because they are popular. I buy them because they fit my particular needs. And as it stands now, the Pebble fits my needs better than the Apple Watch.

The Pebble pretty much only does notifications. Everything else is poorly implemented. Even the notifications only sometimes work. Yes, I have one.
 
My original pebble doesn't take anywhere near that much time to charge. I don't know exactly, but I know a 10min charge will last me all day, as I charge mine while I'm in the shower.

We're talking about charging all the way, keeping in mind that Li-ions charge on a curve rather than linearly (so as to avoid overcharging). Now the Pebble doesn't need anywhere near a full charge to last a day*, but the Apple Watch will.


*it is however advisable to charge all the way since you use fewer cycles that way.
 
The Pebble pretty much only does notifications. Everything else is poorly implemented. Even the notifications only sometimes work. Yes, I have one.

I have one too, and it works just fine for me. I use it not only for notifications, which have been very reliable in my experience, but also remote control over various apps, the silent alarm, to find my phone, and as a multi-timer. The only thing I really want that is missing from the current gen of Pebbles is voice input, and the Pebble Time is adding just that. So again, the Pebble fits ME better than the Apple Watch will.
 
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How long do you predict it will take to fully recharge a ~350 mAh battery?

(For reference, it takes just over two hours to fully recharge an iPhone 6 with it's 1810 mAh battery.)

The thing to remember about battery charging is that it's not linear. It starts out fast, but gradually slows down to avoid overcharging. For a small battery that slowdown rate is much quicker than with a large battery. Meaning that it doesn't scale exactly.

Fair enough.

So how long do you predict it will take to fully recharge a ~350 mAh battery?

Probably around 2-3 hours.

I'll take your word for it until we hear the facts next month, but I do find it amazing that it will take as long or longer to recharge as the iPhone 6's battery that is 5x bigger.
 
I have one too, and it works just fine for me. I use it not only for notifications, which have been very reliable in my experience, but also remote control over various apps, the silent alarm, to find my phone, and as a multi-timer. The only thing I really want that is missing from the current gen of Pebbles is voice input, and the Pebble Time is adding just that. So again, the Pebble fits ME better than the Apple Watch will.

Voice input likely won't function very well between the new Pebble and iPhone (wasn't that a disclaimer in their KS ad?).

Pebble is junk, but it's the best of the junk available to me as an iPhone user. I wish the LG Watch was iPhone compatible as that actually looks nice. The constant reboots to get notifications working is annoying.
 
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