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All valid points. My biggest concerns about the Air are that I'm a little hesitant to buy first-gen Apple products, and I personally value battery and camera ahead of weight. With the Pro (not the Pro Max or the Air), I can get the best camera available, second-best battery life, and less weight and bulk than the PM.
Totally fair and valid perspective as well!

As somebody who has been a Pro Max user since the 11-series, I’m more than ready to downsize. But the standard 17 Pro (and regular 17) just does nothing for me comparatively. So Air it is…
 
The reason Apple went to ceramic and aluminum, is to keep phone from over heating. If you have a current iPhone Pro 16 and try taking a 4k HDR video, see what happens? The only thing I have about the orange color, in a couple of years it will tell everyone that you have a 2 year old phone.
As an adult, you really care whether or not other people know you may have a 2 year old phone? Are you serious?
 
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There isn't a single thing for the iPhone Air to be any better then the iPhone 16, or 17. The only difference is that it is more compact, which by the way has nothing to do with with technological improvements.

Not a single thing better than the iPhone 16, really? For one - the display, 120hz promotion, 3000 nits peak & AOD. That’s enough in itself with no need to carry on with the rest.
 
Not a single thing better than the iPhone 16, really? For one - the display, 120hz promotion, 3000 nits peak & AOD. That’s enough in itself with no need to carry on with the rest.
The display would make a difference to some, but would a better screen alone be the sole reason to purchase an iPhone Air by most of the buyers? To me at least it makes more sense to look at the entire package based on my needs or wants, just like when purchasing any other product.
 
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Totally fair and valid perspective as well!

As somebody who has been a Pro Max user since the 11-series, I’m more than ready to downsize. But the standard 17 Pro (and regular 17) just does nothing for me comparatively. So Air it is…
What's wrong with the Pro?
 
I think that’s because it’s getting heavier and bulkier year after year ever since the 13 series. We have to remember that this thing primarily is supposed to be a phone.

Understandable but I can honestly say I rarely use it as a phone. I mostly use it for the apps, internet, CarPlay is a very big one, Apple Pay another big one, emails. My call time on the phone for its entire life is 4 days 10 hours. Less than a work week talking.
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Ew, who uses cases!

Who asked for a thicker heavy phone, who asked for bigger phone, who asked for a smaller phone, who asked for a foldable phone, who asked for any phone or new piece of tech that’s been released. It’s nice to see Apple trying something different and pushing some boundaries giving people more choice.

“No need to post about it” LOL… Last time I checked this was a forum dedicated to iPhone on an Apple fans site. What a ridiculous thing to come out with 🤣🤣
Pretty much everyone.
 
Who asked for a thicker heavy phone, who asked for bigger phone, who asked for a smaller phone, who asked for a foldable phone, who asked for any phone or new piece of tech that’s been released. It’s nice to see Apple trying something different and pushing some boundaries giving people more choice.

“No need to post about it” LOL… Last time I checked this was a forum dedicated to iPhone on an Apple fans site. What a ridiculous thing to come out with 🤣🤣
???????????????????????????? Apple copying the Samsung thin phone is trying something different and pushing boundaries? LOL OMG dude they’re copying if anything. Too funny!!
 
ITT: folks who weren’t around to see the Razr become the biggest phone on the market. Super expensive, worse camera than other options, garbage battery life. GPRS. Design got it there. Normal people don’t care about specs, and buying isn’t based on logic.

Or how about the first iPhone? 2-2.5x more expensive than the status quo. Did maybe 25% of what a smartphone could do. Slow internet. Low quality camera. No video. And yet…

Will this phone have that level of impact? No, we’re way past peak-cell phone at this point. But the counter arguments about cameras and weight difference and stereo speakers … no one will care. That’s nerd **** for nerds. This is a mass market product.
 
Unless you're gaming, I really don't think thermals are a concern on any iPhone.

Until you dare to use your phone in 80ºF weather (shade) and your screen comes down to 20% brightness and the frame rate down to 30fps because it's overheating.

iPhones need all the thermal help they can get.
 
Your points are quite valid.

I was using a 1-inch thick, 4 lb. Laptop when the original MacBook Air was slipped out of the Manila envelope onstage by Steve Jobs and shown to the world. What a moment that was in Apple history. Traveling extensively for work, my MacBook Air was delightfully easy to carry.

Regarding iPhones again I concur, out of the vast group of users at work I cannot remember anyone wishing for a thin phone. Yet here we are, with Apples experience, resources and vast user base, it’s obvious they’ve done the research and determined there is a market for this new model.
The problem is that when people say on the internet that “nobody asked for a thinner phone,” that claim isn’t based on any research or data. It’s just their subjective opinion, or they’re simply parroting what YouTube’s tech-oriented Pro Max–using creators say. And that subjective opinion really comes from the fact that they’re just trying to justify to themselves that they’re users of the thicker models. And as someone once said, you should never ask users what they need, because they can’t answer that; they might not even understand it, and even if they do, they won’t know how to come up with a solution. What you should ask users is what their problem or pain point is. Or even better, you should observe them. I don’t have any data either, but I won’t be surprised if there’s a very large number of users who, in one way or another (consciously or subconsciously) have found themselves in situations where a big and heavy phone has been difficult to use.
 
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There isn't a single thing for the iPhone Air to be any better then the iPhone 16, or 17. The only difference is that it is more compact, which by the way has nothing to do with with technological improvements. The Apple's incessant idea relating to "thinness" and "compactness" relates to nothing but to reduce manufacturing costs, and if I take my time to carefully look at the present iPhone, and even the iPad, both are getting "kind of" boring. Now I would find a transparent iPhone interesting :)

It’s thinner it’s specifically not more compact. This is the crux of what I don’t understand about it, people are touting it as being more compact but it just isn’t. It has less features and has a larger footprint.
 
???????????????????????????? Apple copying the Samsung thin phone is trying something different and pushing boundaries? LOL OMG dude they’re copying if anything. Too funny!!
The first leaks/mention of the iPhone Air were last year? Not sure on the S25 Edge, nor do I care tbh lol. It’s a Samsung running Android & each time I’ve tried it, it’s been pants.

iPhone Air all the way, 4 days to go! Bring it on cannot wait 🤩😆🤣
 
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