@wegwegsds, thanks for the info, will try this today
No problem! I sincerely hope it fixes the problem! If you can try and post pictures of the insides of your mac and hopefully we can build a small collection of success stories
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Performance reduced after EFI update on MacBook Pro Retina
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No problem! I sincerely hope it fixes the problem! If you can try and post pictures of the insides of your mac and hopefully we can build a small collection of success stories
.So how would one go about cleaning the dust out of their MacBook without damaging anything?
I opened up my 2 1/2 year old MacBook Pro for the first time a couple weeks ago, and it was NO where near as dusty as that image!
I opened up my 2 1/2 year old MacBook Pro for the first time a couple weeks ago, and it was NO where near as dusty as that image!
So how would one go about cleaning the dust out of their MacBook without damaging anything?
I opened up my 2 1/2 year old MacBook Pro for the first time a couple weeks ago, and it was NO where near as dusty as that image!
I'm not too sure myself how my macbook got so dusty inside! I followed this guide at ifixit in order to open it up...
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Reapplying+Thermal+Paste+to+the+CPU+and+GPU/9587/1
Once it was opened up you can use compressed air to clean it. I however didn't have a can at hand so I simply used a vacuum cleaner at a low power setting.
That might be the solution for some, however, for me, it's pretty much as clean as when i bought it.
Need to take it in to genius bar some sunny day to fix it + the creaking.
Yeah I just posted in hopes that someone might be able to solve their problem in the same way.
If you're still encountering the overheating problem it looks like the genius bar/using your warranty is the only option
Yeah I just posted in hopes that someone might be able to solve their problem in the same way.
If you're still encountering the overheating problem it looks like the genius bar/using your warranty is the only option
maybe i can wait till the new MBPr comes out and get mine swapped
thanks for your input!
some things that are obvious to some people might never have been heard of for others
maybe i can wait till the new MBPr comes out and get mine swapped
thanks for your input!
some things that are obvious to some people might never have been heard of for others
Haha that would be great and cheeky of you if you could pull it off
!Yeah it didn't cross my mind at all, it's the first time I've ever bothered to open up a laptop!
ok guys good news
I was tired of this throttling thing while playing metro last light so i decided to try something
i have reapplied the rmbp thermal paste (the factory paste was crappy and very poorly applied.it was uneven with gaps and to much of it as usual)
I bought a Shin-Etsu Microsi as have read its really really good
the important part is not to put to much of it and spread it in a thin and even layer( i used credit card )
and guess what its really hot outside this days and a have about 75c degree on both cpu and gpu in bootcamp while playing heavy games!! i played Metro for 3 hours and i had no throttling issue at all
problem solved
I was tired of this throttling thing while playing metro last light so i decided to try something
i have reapplied the rmbp thermal paste (the factory paste was crappy and very poorly applied.it was uneven with gaps and to much of it as usual)
I bought a Shin-Etsu Microsi as have read its really really good
the important part is not to put to much of it and spread it in a thin and even layer( i used credit card )
and guess what its really hot outside this days and a have about 75c degree on both cpu and gpu in bootcamp while playing heavy games!! i played Metro for 3 hours and i had no throttling issue at all
problem solved
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ok guys good news
I was tired of this throttling thing while playing metro last light so i decided to try something
i have reapplied the rmbp thermal paste (the factory paste was crappy and very poorly applied.it was uneven with gaps and to much of it as usual)
I bought a Shin-Etsu Microsi as have read its really really good
the important part is not to put to much of it and spread it in a thin and even layer( i used credit card )
and guess what its really hot outside this days and a have about 75c degree on both cpu and gpu in bootcamp while playing heavy games!! i played Metro for 3 hours and i had no throttling issue at all
problem solved
Apple needs to pay attention as this is probably the real throttling issue, and offer to do this in store. I'm not sure I want to do this kind of service myself on a very expensive MacBook retina
please help NEED REAL HELP
Hi guys i have a sirious problem please help me! Read it please
first i bought my 15inch rmbp and everything was smooth right?
After updating efi firmware games became laggy
i reset the smc and reset the smc again every time i turned it on
i updated smc and after that (1.1 smc) my mac suddenly shut down
my fan is stuck at 2000 rpm first serious problem
i deleted com.apple.plist and a windowserver file because some guys saied it fixes the lag !
I thought it was fixed but after 20secs in game i noticed temprature was going up fast it was86! My highest temp was 74c!
Now my macbook overheats under no usage in os x and windows my fans are stuck intel hd4000 is laggy and nvidia gt650 overheats no warrantee(two days before today expired!) no apple store here!
Now smc resset and pram reset dont work and no update for efi is available already reinstalled os x and updated to mountain lion 10.8.4 it is still like please help me guys please how can i restore mbp firm ware?
Sorry for my bad - influet english please understand ! I uninstalled windows cuz it was no longer working it overheated and overheatedd again and again how to restore efi please give me a real guide not what you think and tell me no it cant be fixed or some thing like that!
Hi guys i have a sirious problem please help me! Read it please
first i bought my 15inch rmbp and everything was smooth right?
After updating efi firmware games became laggy
i reset the smc and reset the smc again every time i turned it on
i updated smc and after that (1.1 smc) my mac suddenly shut down
my fan is stuck at 2000 rpm first serious problem
i deleted com.apple.plist and a windowserver file because some guys saied it fixes the lag !
I thought it was fixed but after 20secs in game i noticed temprature was going up fast it was86! My highest temp was 74c!
Now my macbook overheats under no usage in os x and windows my fans are stuck intel hd4000 is laggy and nvidia gt650 overheats no warrantee(two days before today expired!) no apple store here!
Now smc resset and pram reset dont work and no update for efi is available already reinstalled os x and updated to mountain lion 10.8.4 it is still like please help me guys please how can i restore mbp firm ware?
Sorry for my bad - influet english please understand ! I uninstalled windows cuz it was no longer working it overheated and overheatedd again and again how to restore efi please give me a real guide not what you think and tell me no it cant be fixed or some thing like that!
First of all, take a deep breath.. you surely need it.
Second, the only problem you have, apparently, is lag.
Fans are not stuck at 2000rpm. The fans are always running at 2000rpm unless more power is needed to cool the rMBP. It's normal behaviour. Have you tried using Ultrafan (per example) and setting a lower target temperature in order to check if the fans are responding? Which apps are you using to measure temps, both under Windows and OS X?
Secondly, 86ºC is not as high as you think. These CPUs are designed to stand temperatures as high as 105ºC. If the temps go over that, the CPU throttles in order to cool down. I play FIFA 13 often under Windows and the CPU goes as high as 90ºC and the GPU as high as 80ºC. The game does not lag, I obviously feel the heat if I touch the laptop but it's designed to stand that kind of temperatures. I may get that kind of temperatures by just watching a 1080p video in YouTube (not anymore since I swapped the thermal compound but the temps still go near that).
Lastly.. it is impossible for a user to restore a previous EFI version.
Second, the only problem you have, apparently, is lag.
Fans are not stuck at 2000rpm. The fans are always running at 2000rpm unless more power is needed to cool the rMBP. It's normal behaviour. Have you tried using Ultrafan (per example) and setting a lower target temperature in order to check if the fans are responding? Which apps are you using to measure temps, both under Windows and OS X?
Secondly, 86ºC is not as high as you think. These CPUs are designed to stand temperatures as high as 105ºC. If the temps go over that, the CPU throttles in order to cool down. I play FIFA 13 often under Windows and the CPU goes as high as 90ºC and the GPU as high as 80ºC. The game does not lag, I obviously feel the heat if I touch the laptop but it's designed to stand that kind of temperatures. I may get that kind of temperatures by just watching a 1080p video in YouTube (not anymore since I swapped the thermal compound but the temps still go near that).
Lastly.. it is impossible for a user to restore a previous EFI version.
hey man listen up! fans are stuck at 2000rpm while gamin 2000 and 2000 again
software istat pro of course and my hand is really experienced! i can tell you the temp by touching macbook
lag? yup i have lag too so much lag is HERE IHOPE EFI UPDATE 1.1 SOLVES THE PROBLEMS FOR MY RMBP(MID-2012)
I NEED A SMC UPDATE FOR THE FAN AND THE TEMP(WHILE PLAYING CHESS 82C))GPU TEMP IMEAN AND I NEED TO USE SMC FAN CONTROL I REALLY NEED IT I SET THE DEFAULT TO 3000RPM(NOW IT IS 3000RPM WHEN MY SAFARI IS OPEN) I REALLY NEED AN EFI FIX!
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Yeah it is lag but every thing is laggy smc firm ware efi (which is more important!) pram and smc reset dont work i have already reset them hundred times and nothing changes boot camp? Games are full lag after 10 secs temp gets to 86 and game becomes unplayable all happened after deleting the com.apple.plist and windwserver! And lag doesnt finish here while scrolling web pages you can see lag under hd4000 and nvidia doesnt have any lag but trothle as bad hell!\
sry for en again!
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I wish icould play metro now on stunning retina desplay but i cant under stand me school is oppening and i have lag--laggg---lagggg
and those arent lags that can be fixed easyly like by reinstalling os x cuz i have done already soo.... Give me a guide to restore
com.apple.plist and com.apple.wndowser.plist to its defaults
and restore efi firm ware then the only lag will be fan which isnt
as important as sudden overheating!
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How to restore to default?
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ok impossible? I knew that by im talking about restoring those two files whem games become unplayable it is perfectly normal when temp goes like this 67 6869 70 71 7273...86 in 10secs normal yeah perfectly normal man i dont need deep breathes they should be taken during masterbation not fixing efi right?
software istat pro of course and my hand is really experienced! i can tell you the temp by touching macbook
lag? yup i have lag too so much lag is HERE IHOPE EFI UPDATE 1.1 SOLVES THE PROBLEMS FOR MY RMBP(MID-2012)
I NEED A SMC UPDATE FOR THE FAN AND THE TEMP(WHILE PLAYING CHESS 82C))GPU TEMP IMEAN AND I NEED TO USE SMC FAN CONTROL I REALLY NEED IT I SET THE DEFAULT TO 3000RPM(NOW IT IS 3000RPM WHEN MY SAFARI IS OPEN) I REALLY NEED AN EFI FIX!
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Yeah it is lag but every thing is laggy smc firm ware efi (which is more important!) pram and smc reset dont work i have already reset them hundred times and nothing changes boot camp? Games are full lag after 10 secs temp gets to 86 and game becomes unplayable all happened after deleting the com.apple.plist and windwserver! And lag doesnt finish here while scrolling web pages you can see lag under hd4000 and nvidia doesnt have any lag but trothle as bad hell!\
sry for en again!
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I wish icould play metro now on stunning retina desplay but i cant under stand me school is oppening and i have lag--laggg---lagggg
and those arent lags that can be fixed easyly like by reinstalling os x cuz i have done already soo.... Give me a guide to restore
com.apple.plist and com.apple.wndowser.plist to its defaults
and restore efi firm ware then the only lag will be fan which isnt
as important as sudden overheating!
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How to restore to default?
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ok impossible? I knew that by im talking about restoring those two files whem games become unplayable it is perfectly normal when temp goes like this 67 6869 70 71 7273...86 in 10secs normal yeah perfectly normal man i dont need deep breathes they should be taken during masterbation not fixing efi right?
I am too still experiencing the issue, most notably GPU throttling. It basically happens at any temperature, any driver with either stock or overclocked clocks.
Strangely enough, i get absolutely no throttling if i set both the minimum and the maximum processor state via the Windows Power Settings to 5%.
I am beginning to suspect, that somehow the power that is available is simply not enough for the dedicated GPU and a fully loaded CPU at the same time.
Any opinions on this? I am pretty much at my wit´s end here, as neither the SMC/PRAM reset nor a different driver nor some NVidia Inspector settings nor lower temperature have helped here...
Strangely enough, i get absolutely no throttling if i set both the minimum and the maximum processor state via the Windows Power Settings to 5%.
I am beginning to suspect, that somehow the power that is available is simply not enough for the dedicated GPU and a fully loaded CPU at the same time.
Any opinions on this? I am pretty much at my wit´s end here, as neither the SMC/PRAM reset nor a different driver nor some NVidia Inspector settings nor lower temperature have helped here...
Feel free
I AM THE PERSON WHO PROBABLY HAS THE WORST PROBLEM WITH HIS RMBP!
i have throttling under osx and bootcamp i tried turning off graphic switching
to see if nvidia gt650 over heats the answer was positive intel hd4000 doesn't
but gt650m does! i t over heats i mean overheats while using safari
now i have reset the SMC FOR 100 TIMES OR MAYBE MORE THAN THAT!
but nothing changed the problem is related to com.apple.windowserver.plist
located in by host folder goto folder- ~/library/prefrences/ByHost
if you delete it it must be recreated after start up but it doesnt recreate to default values so EFI problem is here all i did was that:
1-felt free
2-let it throttle
3-the worst thing which might happen is automatically-temp shut down
4-yeah i only search the web with my rmbp update my ipad 2 to IOS6 AND
NOTHING ELSE REALLY!
5-AND I LET IT THROTTLE AND UNINSTALLED SMC FAN CONTROL RESSET THE SMC AND TOLD MY SELF LET THE ****IN RMBP THROTTLE!
DO THAT IT IS THE BEST GUIDE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM IHOPE!
sorry i am addicted to use caps lock it makes me type faster....lol
I AM THE PERSON WHO PROBABLY HAS THE WORST PROBLEM WITH HIS RMBP!
i have throttling under osx and bootcamp i tried turning off graphic switching
to see if nvidia gt650 over heats the answer was positive intel hd4000 doesn't
but gt650m does! i t over heats i mean overheats while using safari
now i have reset the SMC FOR 100 TIMES OR MAYBE MORE THAN THAT!
but nothing changed the problem is related to com.apple.windowserver.plist
located in by host folder goto folder- ~/library/prefrences/ByHost
if you delete it it must be recreated after start up but it doesnt recreate to default values so EFI problem is here all i did was that:
1-felt free
2-let it throttle
3-the worst thing which might happen is automatically-temp shut down
4-yeah i only search the web with my rmbp update my ipad 2 to IOS6 AND
NOTHING ELSE REALLY!
5-AND I LET IT THROTTLE AND UNINSTALLED SMC FAN CONTROL RESSET THE SMC AND TOLD MY SELF LET THE ****IN RMBP THROTTLE!
DO THAT IT IS THE BEST GUIDE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM IHOPE!
sorry i am addicted to use caps lock it makes me type faster....lol
The only solution for me was to buy a brand new 2013 rMBP (after my 2012 rMBP's cooling system completely failed - having suffered severe throttling before that).
Details are in another thread.
My present rMBP is running Skyrim overclocked at 1100 MHZ (core), completely stable, at no more than 80 degrees celcius on the GPU. Apple changed something with the 2013 units.
Sorry about the bad news.
Details are in another thread.
My present rMBP is running Skyrim overclocked at 1100 MHZ (core), completely stable, at no more than 80 degrees celcius on the GPU. Apple changed something with the 2013 units.
Sorry about the bad news.
Ok guys go to prefrences/library/byhost and delete com.apple.plist and ~/library/preferences. And delete com.apple.windowserverXXXXXZX(some nums) .plist. Then reset the pram and tell me what happens ! I hope it fixes yours! I tried few things and fuked up my rmbp. Fans stuck at 2000rpm and no warranty and63 Celsius under no load! But this guide will make system recreate those files to their default and your rmbp will be powerful again! But Help me I reset the smc 100times and while gaming my rmbp suddenly drops the fps and goes up again now it is 84 with in 20sec and game becomes unplayable! Help please HELP AS I HELPED YOU!
Please help me don't tell me you have the same situation ok if you have the same problem then does it solve mine? Please answer I can't open up my rmbp cause I'm in Iran no screwdriver no warranty. Buying rmbp here is not. Usual it is made for rich people here and I'm not so... Rich I can buy one but can't buy a new one every year please help me fans are responding but throttling happens under nvidia gt650 with. No load turn automatic graphic switching off and GT 650m throttle really fast and if you play angry birds it will be 75 or maybe more temp sensors don't show the right temp they some times show 56(stat pro) C when I touch the rmbp and I am sure it is more than 70 gpu is really throttling can anybody give me a downgrading guide IT IS POSSIBLE BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW DON'T TELL ME YOU CAN'T
My rmbp fans are stuck at 2000rpm they work properly and respond but when gpu is 70 they dont blow up can any body help?
Resset and ressset the ****in smc hundreds of times
sorry my addiction to typing in caps looks really serious!
Lol
Resset and ressset the ****in smc hundreds of times
sorry my addiction to typing in caps looks really serious!
Lol
There is nothing wrong with your mac. 70 is a very low temp so no need to increase the fan speed.
Ok guys after i downloaded the windows support folder?
What should i do to install all the drivers
cuz i reinstalled everything full-reinstall and upgraded to mountain lion 10.8.3
and installed windows 7but how to install drivers and check
the temps and tell you the bad news!
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Sorry destinger
What should i do to install all the drivers
cuz i reinstalled everything full-reinstall and upgraded to mountain lion 10.8.3
and installed windows 7but how to install drivers and check
the temps and tell you the bad news!
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Sorry destinger
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