Pets, what price are you willing to pay?

[LizKat]

That said, I don't think most businesses would deny a guide dog in training.

I agree.

Then there are the my-rules ways of little general stores... one around here the owner wouild most always say "please leave the dog oustide, there's places to tie him you can see him ok from inside the store." Except for this one black lab that the dog owner would come in with and head back to the deli counter, dog folowing. Then the store owner would always shave off a piece of some kind of meat or even cheese for that dog: a little roast beef, a piece of salami... This one guy who was new to the area saw that one time and started up about why not his dog too then, and the store owner just looked at him and said that's not a dog that's Buster. It's a hassle living in the sticks sometmes but then sometimes there are little fringe benefits if you hang around long enough.

 

[jeyf]

i bet not one retail store business plan states they will exclude a pet owner accompanied his her pet.

 

[LizKat]

i bet not one retail store business plan states they will exclude a pet owner accompanied his her pet.

What does a business plan have to do with stuff like local ordinances though?

 

[jeyf]

What does a business plan have to do with stuff like local ordinances though?

it has everything to do with local ordinances. 4example; dont take your dog to a place serving food.

Me & the dog; we got amazon.com so no need to stress dealing with a local NYC hillbilly.

 

[LizKat]

A bricks and mortar business must of course observe local ordinances. It's possible (although inadvisable) to open a business without actually having a formal business plan. That's what I meant, and was the focus of my question.

 

[jeyf]

yes you can.
if you go the way of a bank or plan to sign a lease and or have no previous experience, i think not. It is always good to organize your thoughts in writing tho?

 

[Phonephreak]

Lots to say about this.

Dogs should be a family member not just an outside animal. You shouldn’t have a dog if you plan on leaving it outside 24/7. I have the sweetest pit bull ever. Rescued him from the pound. He is a 60lb lapdog who falls asleep on my lap every night. His biggest problem is the way he launches himself off your lap sometimes, he is a solid slab of muscle. Absolutely no body fat. He sinks in the pool,but loves to be in your arms in the water.

Service dogs are amazing animals. I have no problems with a service dog being anywhere. What I do have a problem with is jerks who bring their clearly not a service dog into stores. Can’t stand those little pocketbook dogs. I work at a md office and we had a patient who would bring her dog there. She was so upset when she was told not to. Really?

I Used to live in a condo that had someone with a true service dog. She let him crap everywhere on the property, never cleaned it up. One day she left in a ambulance and never returned. Good riddance

 

[smallcoffee]

Yeah, declawing is controversial, including at least one dedicated thread in the forum.

There's nothing controversial about it. Don't own one if you are going to declaw it. It's completely unnecessary with even the slightest amount of training and providing a scratching post.

 

[Melrose]

The line gets drawn when they begin forgetting where the letterbox is. I'll try and work with them but if they don't get it they have go; it's my house, and the cats are the pets, not the other way around.

The occasional piddle on the floor I can tolerate...it's one of the only ways cats have to communicate, and if they've otherwise been good about it, it generally means they're upset about something. Being as I'm responsible for their well being and overall happiness, I give it time and try to figure out what's making them upset. Usually you can...sometimes they get worked up over the furniture being rearranged and the piddling stops once they get used to it.

I have one cat who used to be my grandmother's, and I trained her down from completely feral (less than a year old) to now an affectionate lap sitter (and senior). A while ago she jumped on my lap and peed all over my legs. It's happened a few times, but I discovered if I quickly get her roll her over when she jumps up she won't do it. She's been my feline friend for over ten years so I'll make a small adjustment that saves her life. Call me crazy, but I wouldn't want someone euthanizing me when I get old and do crazy stuff.

Lots to say about this.

Dogs should be a family member not just an outside animal. You shouldn’t have a dog if you plan on leaving it outside 24/7. I have the sweetest pit bull ever. Rescued him from the pound. He is a 60lb lapdog who falls asleep on my lap every night. His biggest problem is the way he launches himself off your lap sometimes, he is a solid slab of muscle. Absolutely no body fat. He sinks in the pool,but loves to be in your arms in the water.

Service dogs are amazing animals. I have no problems with a service dog being anywhere. What I do have a problem with is jerks who bring their clearly not a service dog into stores. Can’t stand those little pocketbook dogs. I work at a md office and we had a patient who would bring her dog there. She was so upset when she was told not to. Really?

I Used to live in a condo that had someone with a true service dog. She let him crap everywhere on the property, never cleaned it up. One day she left in a ambulance and never returned. Good riddance

We have neighbors - more than one, unfortunately - who own multiple dogs and "store" them in cages behind the garage. Dogs are highly social. I don't understand why this type of treatment with dogs is not classified as abuse. They should swap the dogs with their troll of a son.

 

[lowendlinux]

We have a Siamese and a Russian Blue the Blue is haughty and the Siamese is lovable. The follow my wife around the house and chat with her no matter what she's doing, when she sits down they do, when it's time for bed they follow her. Their litter pans are in the basement they both know where they are and that they need to use them and they do. They're both fine companions

 

[MC6800]

The line gets drawn when they begin forgetting where the letterbox is.

Absolutely. A cat's useless when it can no longer fetch the mail!

 

[Huntn]

We have a Siamese and a Russian Blue the Blue is haughty and the Siamese is lovable. The follow my wife around the house and chat with her no matter what she's doing, when she sits down they do, when it's time for bed they follow her. Their litter pans are in the basement they both know where they are and that they need to use them and they do. They're both fine companions

One of the keys of owning happy cats when you leave them for a day or two is to have 2 of them, or you may have litter box issues, as in not being used.
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The line gets drawn when they begin forgetting where the letterbox is. I'll try and work with them but if they don't get it they have go; it's my house, and the cats are the pets, not the other way around.

The occasional piddle on the floor I can tolerate...it's one of the only ways cats have to communicate, and if they've otherwise been good about it, it generally means they're upset about something. Being as I'm responsible for their well being and overall happiness, I give it time and try to figure out what's making them upset. Usually you can...sometimes they get worked up over the furniture being rearranged and the piddling stops once they get used to it.

I have one cat who used to be my grandmother's, and I trained her down from completely feral (less than a year old) to now an affectionate lap sitter (and senior). A while ago she jumped on my lap and peed all over my legs. It's happened a few times, but I discovered if I quickly get her roll her over when she jumps up she won't do it. She's been my feline friend for over ten years so I'll make a small adjustment that saves her life. Call me crazy, but I wouldn't want someone euthanizing me when I get old and do crazy stuff.



We have neighbors - more than one, unfortunately - who own multiple dogs and "store" them in cages behind the garage. Dogs are highly social. I don't understand why this type of treatment with dogs is not classified as abuse. They should swap the dogs with their troll of a son.

Occasional piddle makes a huge difference if it's on carpet or not and I believe marking territory and showing sexual availability stops if you have your cats spade, which also eliminates their sexual tension, and helps control cat populations if you let them outside. Besides a female cat in heat is a bother.

 

[WinkWink726]

I love animals and I love pets, and I have literally never lived a pet-free existence.

That said, there is a serious lapse in training and a complacent attitude regarding its need by the people who the OP described in the first post.
I can't even wrap my head around the idea of my pets doing that, and I've had giant, medium and small breed pets (in my experience, a lot of people blame a lack of proper and successful house-training on the dog being a "small breed" which is, no pun intended, just crap); under normal circumstances there's just no excuse for defecating and ruining things beyond the puppy stage.
Now there are certain rescue issues which make things more difficult, but that's more of a rarity.

I served as an animal control officer and spent many years in animal rescue and am a huuuuuge advocate for the crating of dogs. Its the safest thing for them in the even of extremely destructive separation anxiety; in many cases... its the only way to keep the animal safe while one is away from the home for the demands of life.

JMO and JME