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Exactly, and considering the power the hardware has, apps will come out that will rival desktop class apps. It's just a matter of time. People need to recognize that the shift to tablets has happened before. Going from large centralized computers to PCs was similar. "They don't have the power to do real work." How long did it take for PCs to become the platform for computing in businesses. The same will happen to tablets, it's just a matter of time.


Yes, this is what I think too. Also it is only acts as laptop replacement with a keyboard I find. Pointing at things though when the keyboard attached is a pain......
 
Phil smokes weed. Just not any type of weed you and I can buy. It's exclusive Apple weed because he says crap that no one should believe anymore. The guy is a flat out lying sack of dung.


Is that available from the Apple Store? Just curious, I wouldn't really be interested in it myself you understand :rolleyes:
 
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Yes its true what he said...IF you are looking for a device that has no file system.
 
Yes its true what he said...IF you are looking for a device that has no file system.


Of course it does, how else do you think it stores photos, video, music, apps that have iTunes file transfer and so on. It has a file system, just not one of those old fashioned ones were all used to.
 
Well, whether we like it or not, this is where we are headed. I kid you not, some of my friends' younger siblings in high schools type their reports, essays, assignments on their iPhones, iPod Touches, etc. When these people grow up and become part of workplaces, it will reshape the way we get tasks done on computers...

I've tried to live with a tablet to justify my purchase, but it has proven to be cumbersome and a bit limiting. My biggest gripe with working with a tablet is its inability to run multiple apps/windows open side by side. And switching between apps takes a bit more steps than I'd like. Every task seems to take a bit longer to accomplish than on an actual computer.

However, in defense of Phil's comments, getting tasks done on tablet is actually possible as long as it doesn't involve complex professional apps like AutoCad, LabView, etc. Dealing with PDF documents, word-processing, scheduling, emails, etc. are what majority of office computers do. And tablets can do those...
 
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Of course it does, how else do you think it stores photos, video, music, apps that have iTunes file transfer and so on. It has a file system, just not one of those old fashioned ones were all used to.
it has one? isheep........
 
it has one? isheep........

Of course, anything that runs an operating system which stores and manages data has a file system, wouldn't work without it.

Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there. Even a cable set top box, or a smart TV has a file system, PlayStation, Xbox, Wii U, hell even my kettle (iKettle) has a file system. Take your pick there's thousands upon thousands of different types of devices, all of which have a file system.

I'm fairly certain that even my anti-isheep crappy Windows tablet and Fire TV have a file system. Is the concept too difficult for you to imagine.
 
it has one? isheep........

There's no need for iSheep name calling here...

IOS isn't for everyone because the way it handles files is like trying to force a square peg in a round hole. You just have to use apps back and forth to get things done in contrast to the traditional way you do on a PC/desktop. For sandbox security I'd pick iOS over any traditional OS, period. There are pros and cons and if you see it as a bad thing then it's not for you.

It's just the same thing for me before I switched over to the MAC world - I laughed there was no two button mouse and right clicking doesn't even work. Then I tried it and fell in love. This was after working two decades years in the PC world.
 
There's no need for iSheep name calling here...

IOS isn't for everyone because the way it handles files is like trying to force a square peg in a round hole. You just have to use apps back and forth to get things done in contrast to the traditional way you do on a PC/desktop. For sandbox security I'd pick iOS over any traditional OS, period. There are pros and cons and if you see it as a bad thing then it's not for you.

It's just the same thing for me before I switched over to the MAC world - I laughed there was no two button mouse and right clicking doesn't even work. Then I tried it and fell in love. This was after working two decades years in the PC world.


I remember when I first switched from Windows (I also spent many years using, repairing, programming for and so on with Windows) to Mac. It was just weird, it all seemed odd and unnatural to begin with.

I genuinely spent a good 10 minutes baffled over a printer I plugged in because I couldn't find drivers or anything, it was so frustrating.... Until I realised that by plugging it into the Mac, my job was finished :D Sooooo different to what I had been used to with Windows.
 
it works if the printer is airprint compatible. My recent laser printer doesn't work with it. My mom have two printers (standard and photo printers) which aren't supported either.

If you can replace your pc with an iPad, you probably don't do any **** with it anyway.

I use a raspberry Pi as an AirPrint server, works great.
 
I remember when I first switched from Windows (I also spent many years using, repairing, programming for and so on with Windows) to Mac. It was just weird, it all seemed odd and unnatural to begin with.

I genuinely spent a good 10 minutes baffled over a printer I plugged in because I couldn't find drivers or anything, it was so frustrating.... Until I realised that by plugging it into the Mac, my job was finished :D Sooooo different to what I had been used to with Windows.

My biggest fascination was PDF handling on the Mac. I was just amazed at how well it managed PDF viewing. The underlying graphics subsystem supported PDF natively and this was just amazing vs any PC with PDF files. But yes when I got that one printer I was worried I couldn't connect without proper drivers when I plugged it in it downloaded the appropriate updated software and I was in business less than 2 minutes.

People who are stuck with Windows/PC's don't realize that OS X can be a great substitute - if not for those legacy software that is required for certain jobs certain people are stuck in the industry with you'd have everyone using iPads, MacBooks.

the only area of fault is gaming - that's where OPENGL is just not as great as DirectX. But I'd rather play console games...
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I use a raspberry Pi as an AirPrint server, works great.
I have a Mac mini (old 2009 model) that is used solely for some NAS activity and primarily as the AirPrint server. I use Printopia and it works damn fine. You can even print to PDF directly, have it emailed to you automatically, sent to any network drive automatically - the automation is nearly limitless.

People are just ignorant to understanding you can do so much with an iPad. I just hope they continue on expanding functionality in iOS 10.
 
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I have a Mac mini (old 2009 model) that is used solely for some NAS activity and primarily as the AirPrint server. I use Printopia and it works damn fine. You can even print to PDF directly, have it emailed to you automatically, sent to any network drive automatically - the automation is nearly limitless.

People are just ignorant to understanding you can do so much with an iPad. I just hope they continue on expanding functionality in iOS 10.

I have a Mac mini too that I use as a media server.

I guess what I find amusing is the idea you have to give up all devices for one. Even if I go an iPad as my primary device, I see no harm in outsourcing compute, storage, services etc
 
I have a Mac mini too that I use as a media server.

I guess what I find amusing is the idea you have to give up all devices for one. Even if I go an iPad as my primary device, I see no harm in outsourcing compute, storage, services etc

I value security/sandboxes apps over anything else. Having a complete file system in iOS would be so nice if they can manage the security aspect of it. They can't so that's why there are all these sandboxes apps with their own file management. You just have to use multiple apps to do something traditional like a drag and drop on a real PC.

I won't give up PC's because work requires them. Legacy software, old hardware, etc. But for personal use hell no I'd use a PC. I don't put my personal data on any PC. I would not say the iPad is the 100% replacement because just like cars you just can't use a single car for everything. It can but if you can afford multiple cars then that's even better.

Most of the personal stuff I can manage on my iPad just fine. When I need extra grunt power I'd use my MacBook Pro. Or the iMac. But to say the iPad cannot even print to a non-airprint printer is just ignorant. IOS 9 has come a long way.

I expect iOS 10 to be even more powerful.
 
what made me lol the most was that he actually thinks people that havent bothered to upgrade their PC in 5 years are the perfect target group for the iPad Pro.

id say those peeps r more likely to buy a 399$ toshiba or acer laptop before spending twice that on a tablet with a whole new learning curve
 
I use a raspberry Pi as an AirPrint server, works great.

this is a good thing.. but telling you can replace all these PCs with an iPad is still far from the truth. Unless you only browse the web with it.
 
I don't put my personal data on any PC

I'm not afraid to do that; I encrypt the important stuff with GnuPG

this is a good thing.. but telling you can replace all these PCs with an iPad is still far from the truth. Unless you only browse the web with it.

Yes, it's disingenuous because they are still selling backend 'cloud' services which as we all know is a fancy name for other people's computers. The trend is for more connected devices not less.

As I noted earlier, I don't see anything wrong with running discreet devices for discreet tasks even though I may choose to use an iPad as my primary device. So, the Pi is my house's AirPrint server, the Mini is my iTunes server (and occasional workstation), I have DigitalOcean droplets for serving my email and website.
 
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