I updated to 10.12.2 immediately after I got the computer. Literally the very first thing I did. Spotlight should not be indexing anymore, especially because this computer still basically has nothing on it. Only 40GB is used (including the OS).
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Phil Schiller: Apple Working With Consumer Reports to Understand MacBook Pro Battery Test
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I updated to 10.12.2 immediately after I got the computer. Literally the very first thing I did. Spotlight should not be indexing anymore, especially because this computer still basically has nothing on it. Only 40GB is used (including the OS).
IMO, for the last few years, for any product they sell where they talk about the battery life, Apple discloses their overall testing method.
Now for their notebooks, one big difference between their tests and reality is that they use stock macOS. They don't install Adobe Flash (or any other plugins) that may use more processor/battery.
Walt Mossberg usually does his own battery test that mirrors Apple's. I don't recall him saying that his test results were much different from Apple's.
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Apple obviously disagrees with your assessment of who cares about CR, by their response. Likewise you must also give them a great deal of credit by your response. Just a review that will either prove to have merit or not.
Though that is my point, why should they be allowed to quote pre-production units that are now what was shipped to me. That is false information is it not? Tests were not performed on the machines shipped.
How many people checked the fine print ? They trusted apples claims when made on stage. And if the rumours are true that apple changed batteries at the last minute, these tests are not valid at all.
Actually I've noticed CU has been consistently biased against Apple. I dropped my subscription a few years ago as a result. OMO
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It appears you do not own a late 2016 MBP15. How can you possibly make a comment on battery life?
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No, it does not. You can do it for music though, just not a phone call.
Currently, the only way to adjust volume on the AirPods during a phone call is directly from the phone it self, which basically contradicts Apple's own AirPod site saying that you can leave your phone in your bag while taking calls, playing music, and controlling volume.
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No other reviewers do so many battery tests on multiple units.
There's a reason their report came out a month after everyone else.
More and more we see these facepalms from Apple regarding the Mac.
I recently found out that the MBP lost it's line in function an iteration back. What is the point of that? Most all sound chips used in laptops contain both line in and out functions. It literally costs them nothing to maintain the status quo on that feature. However I bet some market research 'informed them' that only 7% ever use the feature so they deleted it.
Likewise for removing Kensington lock slots from various products.
Likewise for removing HDMI from the Macbook Pro-C.
The cynical move of obscuring the battery time left through an update is the worst. It just shows that they have little regard for the computing segment of their customer base. As it represents a smaller part of their revenue than mobile devices.
I see no leadership at Apple.
I recently found out that the MBP lost it's line in function an iteration back. What is the point of that? Most all sound chips used in laptops contain both line in and out functions. It literally costs them nothing to maintain the status quo on that feature. However I bet some market research 'informed them' that only 7% ever use the feature so they deleted it.
Likewise for removing Kensington lock slots from various products.
Likewise for removing HDMI from the Macbook Pro-C.
The cynical move of obscuring the battery time left through an update is the worst. It just shows that they have little regard for the computing segment of their customer base. As it represents a smaller part of their revenue than mobile devices.
I see no leadership at Apple.
It's not the job of Consumer Reports to troubleshoot products. Their job is to use them as a consumer would, and report the results. That's it. There is no due diligence necessary beyond that.
I do not own it, and I was not commenting on my own experience. In no way does my post say that I own the 2016 MBP.
I was referring the many other posts on this forum and others. I was referring to the many news/rumor articles on this site and others. I was referring to Apple's own statements about people have battery life issues.
Is it not okay to comment on my observations? You commented on yours.
This might be true, but for me, it is the Mac that keeps me in the Apple Ecosystem. As soon as Apple drops the Mac, I will drop Apple and my iPhone will be the first to go.
I am probably a small minority, but I think there might be a few others like me.
get real, they're just going to announce they've made a new innovation of thinnness
If Apple was a car company and was overstating efficiency of their cars, they would be slapped with a fine by the EPA. They are fortunate that they are doing this with just their core computing laptop....But wait, they are doing this to their main computing core laptop, asides from selling soldered SSDs, lack of legacy USB ports, HDMI port and lack of optical port in the headphone jack...which they claim, was an outdated technology, and still kept it in their laptops but dropped it from their phones.
What is the logic behind not just one but many of their technical decisions? I have no clue and I am sure there are many who are in the same camp as me.
What is the logic behind not just one but many of their technical decisions? I have no clue and I am sure there are many who are in the same camp as me.
Just curious! Did Apple question CR's battery tests when their products passed the tests in previous years??
And I need to understand what is Apple doing in their battery tests.. Are they just shutting down the computer and turning back on 10 hours later or what? Because with just some youtubeing and surfing on the web I get no more than 3 hours..
And I need to understand what is Apple doing in their battery tests.. Are they just shutting down the computer and turning back on 10 hours later or what? Because with just some youtubeing and surfing on the web I get no more than 3 hours..
This is how I know they're full of crap. Something was running in the background on the low tests. A quick check of Activity Monitor would have solved the problem.
There is a big difference in our comments. I am commenting on basis of first hand experience with a 2016 MBP15. Your comment is a comment on the observation of others.
What value have you added with your comments? Nothing.
This thread would be much more informative if only first hand users posted. This way we can compare notes and help each other out. Your comments are just chaff that get in the way of an informed discussion.
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People should stop using what they think Jobs would or wouldn't have done to reinforce their opinions. Just state your opinion and be done with it. None of know what Jobs would have done and he's gone.
These 2016 MBP's are going to have a low resale value. For me, Apple won't see me in need of a new laptop until Tigerlake. These reports have not tarnished my respect for Apple. Today, I used Air Drop between my iPhone 6s and 2015 MBP 13 inch and I am reminded why this company makes great products. The seamless integration sending and sharing files reminds me they don't ignore the details. Apple needs to remember that this is an ecosystem and each part counts. If you neglect the Mac, you neglect the iPhone and iPad then it all falls apart. The company is atrocious at web services already. I personally have decided to move my photo library to Google photos to benefit from the extra storage.
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...by kicking the entire battery out to an accessory add-on product (sold separately of course).
And I'm only half joking there. "Thinner" eventually requires everything of substance to get pushed out of the box. (Some of) our very ready willingness to buy dongles and docks (sold separately) to get ports that used to be built inside the case are just the signs of things to come (out).
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I agree, i.e. The MB Air, all we asked for was a retina screen, and they could laugh all the way to the bank for another 10 years