You don't get the point either. The titles in the iTunes Store are just vastly inferior in most respects to the BD ones. This situation just cannot be compared to the floppy disk case.
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Phil Schiller Claims Customers Aren't Asking for Built-In Blu-Ray Anymore
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You don't get the point either. The titles in the iTunes Store are just vastly inferior in most respects to the BD ones. This situation just cannot be compared to the floppy disk case.
Correct. But even *with* all those caveats, it's not the same as Blu-Ray not being supported at all.
Last time I checked, Windows didn't support playback of BD movies out of the box, *despite* the fact that many such systems come with BD drives. Let's do like-to-like comparisons.
DVDs and Digital Downloads are both fairly even in terms of usefulness, what you can play on which device, etc but I don't like having a mixed collection.
I'm probably a bit OCD but I like having all my films in one place - either a huge shelf full of DVDs, or a big iTunes library full.
Currently, DVDs are winning because I can go to CeX and buy them for a few quid, and get it doesnt take up HDD space, but when I get an iPad I might feel differently.
I'm probably a bit OCD but I like having all my films in one place - either a huge shelf full of DVDs, or a big iTunes library full.
Currently, DVDs are winning because I can go to CeX and buy them for a few quid, and get it doesnt take up HDD space, but when I get an iPad I might feel differently.
People (as a general term) haven't been asking for *that* for better than two decades now. And that was back when a larger portion of computer-users were computer-geeks who were likely to *want* to get into their system and change out a component (whether it had gone bad or not).
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I seem to recall a Compaq laptop in the mid to late 90s that had a built-in printer. I might have the brand wrong though, and it certainly never caught on.
There have been several models with built-in printers - in the eighties, I for example loved using the Sharp PC-1500, which had a printer in its (also battery-operated) cradle. http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=965&st=1
Nevertheless, there have been several other models with printers, even in the 80's.
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Anyone who has ever owned real blu ray movies and used them on a 1080p hdtv disagree
I can not believe the ignorance of people on this subject. Have you actually owned a LED HDTV with a blu ray player and a 5.1, or 7.1 surround system hooked up to it? It's BREATH TAKING. Every time I play a download from iTunes or use Netflix, I'm like "this is blah". Then I pop in a Blu Ray disc and I am immediately blown away at the picture quality and the audio quality. Especially audio. Uncompressed audio just sounds so much better to the human ear then compressed does. I mean sure if you use the right compression standards it can come close, but there is something about PL II, THX, and the other audio standards on a high quality surround receiver that online video can't deliver.
So anyway, yeah, I don't necessarily think we need these in our computer, because let's face it we're not going to watch these high quality movies on a computer, we want to see them in the living room. So really, why do we want blu ray in our computers? So we can pirate them of course, which is exactly why Apple doesn't put them in their computers, AND exactly why Apple doesn't let you sync your ipod touch, ipad, or iphone with more then one computer, wouldn't surprise me in the least bit if all these ways to circumvent copying are actually part of back room agreement with apple and hollywood to get more of them to be on board with selling content digitally.
Myself, personally, if I LOVE a movie, I'm going to buy it on Blu Ray. When it goes on sale on Amazon.com or at Target, it's usually CHEAPER then iTunes anyway and I don't have to wait several hours to download it and waste all that hard drive space...
I can not believe the ignorance of people on this subject. Have you actually owned a LED HDTV with a blu ray player and a 5.1, or 7.1 surround system hooked up to it? It's BREATH TAKING. Every time I play a download from iTunes or use Netflix, I'm like "this is blah". Then I pop in a Blu Ray disc and I am immediately blown away at the picture quality and the audio quality. Especially audio. Uncompressed audio just sounds so much better to the human ear then compressed does. I mean sure if you use the right compression standards it can come close, but there is something about PL II, THX, and the other audio standards on a high quality surround receiver that online video can't deliver.
So anyway, yeah, I don't necessarily think we need these in our computer, because let's face it we're not going to watch these high quality movies on a computer, we want to see them in the living room. So really, why do we want blu ray in our computers? So we can pirate them of course, which is exactly why Apple doesn't put them in their computers, AND exactly why Apple doesn't let you sync your ipod touch, ipad, or iphone with more then one computer, wouldn't surprise me in the least bit if all these ways to circumvent copying are actually part of back room agreement with apple and hollywood to get more of them to be on board with selling content digitally.
Myself, personally, if I LOVE a movie, I'm going to buy it on Blu Ray. When it goes on sale on Amazon.com or at Target, it's usually CHEAPER then iTunes anyway and I don't have to wait several hours to download it and waste all that hard drive space...
If blu-ray had 10x more capacity, at least we could use as TimeMachine backup media, but I have to agree with SJ... it's an obsolete technology at the time it was launched.
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This claim is like the unemployment rate not including people that have given up looking for work...
I put 10 video files the size of an actual Blu-Ray on my SSD, it's FULL. Why in the hell would you think I'm not interested in watching high quality movies on my computer? Granted streaming media is getting higher quality, but come on.
"Here's a retina display, but you can only watch youtube videos on it."
This claim is like the unemployment rate not including people that have given up looking for work...
I put 10 video files the size of an actual Blu-Ray on my SSD, it's FULL. Why in the hell would you think I'm not interested in watching high quality movies on my computer? Granted streaming media is getting higher quality, but come on.
"Here's a retina display, but you can only watch youtube videos on it."
If you tell them "Not going to happen, ever.", why would they keep asking? They forget about the drive and just download blu-ray rips.
Yup.. I have experienced it first hand.
That's why raid or redundant backup if they are truly important.
Apple's purposefully lying because they want people purchase media from iTunes Store and not from anywhere else.
Absolutely agreed. Also see the article I've linked to ( https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1340463/ ) for some real comparison between (only) the IQ of the two formats.
Phil, we want bluray so we can watch 3d movies. Simple. 3d movie files are too big to stream and download thus the need for bluray.
physical media isn't going anywhere except out of your hands....You still have to have physical media...Even the cloud requires physical media...It's just no longer under your direct control in the cloud situation...So claims that abandoning physical media is "moving forward" are completely false...The cloud type situation does not abandon physical media, it takes it out of your hands and puts it in someone elses...That's all it is, it's not "moving forward", it's not "advancement".
My take is though, while they may try to move that direction it will fail just as you won't ever get rid of physical books...
As for me, I may use cloud services but you can bet your rear that I'm going to put the same things on the cloud on reliable, portable, user controlled, long term physical media storage so I have it in my possession first before using the cloud.
My take is though, while they may try to move that direction it will fail just as you won't ever get rid of physical books...
As for me, I may use cloud services but you can bet your rear that I'm going to put the same things on the cloud on reliable, portable, user controlled, long term physical media storage so I have it in my possession first before using the cloud.
Not legitimately. Videolan provides an implementation of AACS (I linked to it), but it contains no valid keys. Apple would need a proper license from the Blu-ray association for that.
They don't, hence, any software that decrypts Blu-rays is not really legitimate as far as IP infringement goes.
Blu-ray > "HD" streaming content (haha. yeaaah riiight High Definition on a computer....hahaha)
By the way, Apple, why is Blu-Ray still around?
Yeah. That's what I thought.
By the way, Apple, why is Blu-Ray still around?
Yeah. That's what I thought.
No, you don't want. You want to purchase everything from iTunes Store.
(This is what Apple is telling us.)
Blu-ray will exist
As we move on up to 4K at least, maybe 8K, self-contained media will have to be around for a long time. There's archival storage and the preservation of large batches of code -- which is what a feature shot in 4K essentially is. I think we're at the point of leaving optical disk behind, because it's so darn slow. Some variety of flash memory, I suppose, that loads a 4K file in 3-D in about 10 seconds or something.
Now that Blu-ray players are about $80 in a Costco, it's a good way to see certain things. I'll buy four or five a year.
I want to back up on Flash-type memory. Much, much faster.
Plus, there's DRM hell to contend with, but the main problem with Blu-ray is that the disc is read by rotation. It's SLOW. My player needs a USB flash ram stick to load up a multi-gigabyte movie. Takes about a minute to begin, going "squeak, squeak, squeak."
As we move on up to 4K at least, maybe 8K, self-contained media will have to be around for a long time. There's archival storage and the preservation of large batches of code -- which is what a feature shot in 4K essentially is. I think we're at the point of leaving optical disk behind, because it's so darn slow. Some variety of flash memory, I suppose, that loads a 4K file in 3-D in about 10 seconds or something.
Now that Blu-ray players are about $80 in a Costco, it's a good way to see certain things. I'll buy four or five a year.
I want to back up on Flash-type memory. Much, much faster.
Plus, there's DRM hell to contend with, but the main problem with Blu-ray is that the disc is read by rotation. It's SLOW. My player needs a USB flash ram stick to load up a multi-gigabyte movie. Takes about a minute to begin, going "squeak, squeak, squeak."
I know, when I see people driving port fuel injected cars, I giggle.
Get with the time with Direct fuel injection.
I also can't believe people who have these tiny 42" HDTV's.
I guess that's why youtube and streaming looks so great to them sitting 10 feet away. It likes so sharp and clear!
As many have said people don't ask because it's apparent Apple is not going to budge on their no Blu Ray stance.
Apple understandably wants to force you to use their media offerings. While the itunes model is convenient the picture & sound quality is lacking when compared to what can currently be had on physical media.
I also think it's ridiculous that they don't have optical drives in their laptops anymore.
Apple understandably wants to force you to use their media offerings. While the itunes model is convenient the picture & sound quality is lacking when compared to what can currently be had on physical media.
I also think it's ridiculous that they don't have optical drives in their laptops anymore.
I want to call bs on his comments...
... but I am afraid that as far as Apple users go (iPad, Apple TV, Macbook Air), we may not use Bluray as much if at all. I own a grand total of 8 bluray movies and I bought my player in 2006 when they were still costing $400+ and HD-DVDs were still fighting for their lives. I bought my last disc over a year ago. I have not turned on my Bluray player in about a year. In fact, I forgot I owned one until two or three days ago when my son asked me why we don't use it anymore.
We use Hulu and iTunes. It is cheaper on my wallet actually, and soon, it will free up some space in my living room when I toss all of my discs.
... but I am afraid that as far as Apple users go (iPad, Apple TV, Macbook Air), we may not use Bluray as much if at all. I own a grand total of 8 bluray movies and I bought my player in 2006 when they were still costing $400+ and HD-DVDs were still fighting for their lives. I bought my last disc over a year ago. I have not turned on my Bluray player in about a year. In fact, I forgot I owned one until two or three days ago when my son asked me why we don't use it anymore.
We use Hulu and iTunes. It is cheaper on my wallet actually, and soon, it will free up some space in my living room when I toss all of my discs.
I always rip my BD discs before watching them to MKV's (and, if I need to watch them on iOS devices, remux these MKV files to M4V's). Much cleaner, faster, can be streamed over the LAN from NAS / uPnP sources without keeping a desktop computer open.