I can not believe the ignorance of people on this subject. Have you actually owned a LED HDTV with a blu ray player and a 5.1, or 7.1 surround system hooked up to it? It's BREATH TAKING. Every time I play a download from iTunes or use Netflix, I'm like "this is blah". Then I pop in a Blu Ray disc and I am immediately blown away at the picture quality and the audio quality. Especially audio. Uncompressed audio just sounds so much better to the human ear then compressed does. I mean sure if you use the right compression standards it can come close, but there is something about PL II, THX, and the other audio standards on a high quality surround receiver that online video can't deliver.
So anyway, yeah, I don't necessarily think we need these in our computer, because let's face it we're not going to watch these high quality movies on a computer, we want to see them in the living room. So really, why do we want blu ray in our computers? So we can pirate them of course, which is exactly why Apple doesn't put them in their computers, AND exactly why Apple doesn't let you sync your ipod touch, ipad, or iphone with more then one computer, wouldn't surprise me in the least bit if all these ways to circumvent copying are actually part of back room agreement with apple and hollywood to get more of them to be on board with selling content digitally.
Myself, personally, if I LOVE a movie, I'm going to buy it on Blu Ray. When it goes on sale on Amazon.com or at Target, it's usually CHEAPER then iTunes anyway and I don't have to wait several hours to download it and waste all that hard drive space...
Not legitimately. Videolan provides an implementation of AACS (I linked to it), but it contains no valid keys. Apple would need a proper license from the Blu-ray association for that.
They don't, hence, any software that decrypts Blu-rays is not really legitimate as far as IP infringement goes.
I've yet to hear anyone ask for a thinner or lighter iMac either...
I have heard people asking for cooler and quieter iMacs and for iMacs with desktop CPUs & GPUs.![]()
Optical discs suck for backup. Best backup strategy is a combination of local and Cloud (Time Machine and say Crashplan/Carbonite/etc).
The auto eject drives are pretty expensive. Even online they're typically $50 or more.
And you can upload them to Youtube or Vimeo and share them out in minutes. Burning discs means you are stuck in the past. I'm doubting that few people have HDTV but not internet.
Backups. LOL if you're paying these prices to backup your data you are a fool
50GB media
No one is asking for it. Blu-ray is best on a large HDTV. People that care about movies are going to watch them on a suitable device. When the largest Mac display is only 27" that's a problem.
I used to own hundreds of VHS tapes. Then DVD came along. Sold all my VHS on eBay, and collected nearly 1000 DVDs. Then Blu-Ray came out. So, I sold all my DVDs started buying Blu-Rays, and then I realized that I am an idiot
I now own 0 DVDs and 2 Blu-Rays. Last time I used my Blu-Ray player was 2 years ago. Physical medias are dead to me as well. Online streaming is clearly the future and it doesn't take up a ridiculous amount of space for large collections![]()
If you don't mind excessive pixelation, banding and macroblocking, then blu-ray is not needed to get the best PQ currently available.You don't get the point either. The titles in the iTunes Store are just vastly inferior in most respects to the BD ones. This situation just cannot be compared to the floppy disk case.
Clearly your rant has affected your cognitive ability to get my point. I said iTunes movie purchases were adaptable. My content can be upgraded because it is in a more fluid digital factor. I have no idea why you rebutted with this banal nonsense.
Apple has been extremely frustrating when it comes to professionals. They are the wealthiest company in the world, yet their computer options are extremely limited. The Mac Pro should be the most kick ass computer on the planet, but Apple just lets it languish. It's shameful and sad.
First of all, I think a CD/DVD/Blu-Ray drive in a computer costs a lot more than $5.I can sort of see getting rid of optical drives in notebooks, but for desktop machines it just seems silly. Users lose a great backup option, and they can't simply pop in a DVD or CD anymore, when the part probably only costs Apple less than $5.
Honestly, I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that optical drives are one of the parts most likely to fail, and they are trying to reduce warranty repairs, but it's still annoying.
No offense intended, but if you don't watch movies, how does this thread matter to you at all?No, I don't have whatever an AVR is. I don't sit around watchings screens all day so it really doesn't matter to me. I've always seen home theater systems as a waste of space and time.
I can not believe the ignorance of people on this subject. Have you actually owned a LED HDTV with a blu ray player and a 5.1, or 7.1 surround system hooked up to it? It's BREATH TAKING. Every time I play a download from iTunes or use Netflix, I'm like "this is blah". Then I pop in a Blu Ray disc and I am immediately blown away at the picture quality and the audio quality. Especially audio. Uncompressed audio just sounds so much better to the human ear then compressed does. I mean sure if you use the right compression standards it can come close, but there is something about PL II, THX, and the other audio standards on a high quality surround receiver that online video can't deliver.
So anyway, yeah, I don't necessarily think we need these in our computer, because let's face it we're not going to watch these high quality movies on a computer, we want to see them in the living room. So really, why do we want blu ray in our computers? So we can pirate them of course, which is exactly why Apple doesn't put them in their computers, AND exactly why Apple doesn't let you sync your ipod touch, ipad, or iphone with more then one computer, wouldn't surprise me in the least bit if all these ways to circumvent copying are actually part of back room agreement with apple and hollywood to get more of them to be on board with selling content digitally.
Myself, personally, if I LOVE a movie, I'm going to buy it on Blu Ray. When it goes on sale on Amazon.com or at Target, it's usually CHEAPER then iTunes anyway and I don't have to wait several hours to download it and waste all that hard drive space...
This claim is like the unemployment rate not including people that have given up looking for work...
I put 10 video files the size of an actual Blu-Ray on my SSD, it's FULL. Why in the hell would you think I'm not interested in watching high quality movies on my computer? Granted streaming media is getting higher quality, but come on.
"Here's a retina display, but you can only watch youtube videos on it."
Not legitimately. Videolan provides an implementation of AACS (I linked to it), but it contains no valid keys. Apple would need a proper license from the Blu-ray association for that.
They don't, hence, any software that decrypts Blu-rays is not really legitimate as far as IP infringement goes.
I don't have a bluray player in my house at all. Bluray movies are overpriced and inconvenient. I much prefer netflix streaming. The image quality is sharp enough for me.
And yet, I can read and write to blank BD-R discs. Apple doesn't support playing Blu-Ray *movies*. That's true. But even then you can get software for your Mac that *will*.
The fact that Apple would need a license in order for a 3rd party to be able to provide licensed software should clue you in on why Apple hasn't picked up that particular torch.
All 8 of them?.I own a grand total of 8 bluray movies... ...We use Hulu and iTunes. It is cheaper on my wallet actually, and soon, it will free up some space in my living room when I toss all of my discs.
I love reading the people arguing so strongly against Blu-ray. For some of them it's as if to be part of some new groovy, awesome, twenty-second century paradigm means you have to badmouth the "old" so you can prove you at one with "the new".
Blu-ray isn't really any different than spicy food or French colonial furniture. If you don't like it, don't buy it but don't denigrate those who do like it.
I love reading the people arguing so strongly against Blu-ray. For some of them it's as if to be part of some new groovy, awesome, twenty-second century paradigm means you have to badmouth the "old" so you can prove you at one with "the new".
Blu-ray isn't really any different than spicy food or French colonial furniture. If you don't like it, don't buy it but don't denigrate those who do like it.