The problem is no Windows PC maker can make an AIO worth a damn. They're all fugly hot messes.
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Phil Schiller Claims Customers Aren't Asking for Built-In Blu-Ray Anymore
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The problem is no Windows PC maker can make an AIO worth a damn. They're all fugly hot messes.
I dunno. The Spectre looks pretty damn good. Surprising, since HP usually makes dorky looking computers.
And no, it doesn't look at all like the iMac. Besides the colors anyway.
Pretty much everybody gave up...it's not like anyone would take a Blu-Ray equipped iMac and throw it back at you Phil.
While I do enjoy the convenience of streaming the fact that most of the general public is being lulled into complacency with just ensures that we will eventually own no media and everything will be provided on a subscription only basis where consumers have very little leverage to fight price gouging.
My suggestion is to fight the urge to have everything streamed and buy more physical media when you can afford it. Just think about all music, movies, television etc. within the mobile phone "Subscription Plan" model...pay an ever increasing monthly fee or you got nuthin.
While I do enjoy the convenience of streaming the fact that most of the general public is being lulled into complacency with just ensures that we will eventually own no media and everything will be provided on a subscription only basis where consumers have very little leverage to fight price gouging.
My suggestion is to fight the urge to have everything streamed and buy more physical media when you can afford it. Just think about all music, movies, television etc. within the mobile phone "Subscription Plan" model...pay an ever increasing monthly fee or you got nuthin.
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I think you need to download some blu-ray player software for viewing movies, since it is too much to ask for, for Apple to natively support playing blu-ray movies...
That or use vmware fusion with windows to directly connect a usb device to the Windows Virtual Machine.
Blu-ray is an industry standard media format. Why would the customer not be asking for built in player support?
I think you need to download some blu-ray player software for viewing movies, since it is too much to ask for, for Apple to natively support playing blu-ray movies...
That or use vmware fusion with windows to directly connect a usb device to the Windows Virtual Machine.
Blu-ray is an industry standard media format. Why would the customer not be asking for built in player support?
Seems to be because Apple thinks a current format that millions of people use and is still sold is a dead medium and all of them are living in the past.
This is what I hear - Too cheap to pay for it and we want you at iTunes.
They don't have to be in Apple's garden. The future of high quality video is certainly streaming, not media. Right now optical media can host much better quality than streaming, but in the near future with the release of more efficient encodings and faster internet all over the world, we'll be streaming blu ray quality at home, yet optical media won't get much better. The format already hit the diminishing returns threshold. You won't get a much better picture from a 1TB "blu ray" compared to what you get today. The only thing I can think of is releasing a 2k format which'll only make a considerable difference on movies shot very recently with Red Epic or the likes. Even 5 year old films shot on 35mm are not fully utilising the bitrate of Blu Ray atm. A higher quality format would only make sense for old pictures if studios somehow decide to spend millions of dollars on each of their content for proper HD mastering. And even then, Blu Ray will probably suffice.
And if you want to watch your Blu Rays on your Mac, do what I do. Buy a Blu Ray drive and transmute your movies to .mkv and watch on VLC. It takes only 15 minutes.
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The internet never skipped a beat during the earthquake and tsunami. Tokyo lost use of all cells but the iPhone continued working great using its wifi.
Phil, just so you know: I decided to stall any buy decision for a new iMac (even it was about time for my 2008 model) until I get an ALL-In-One device again!
In fact, I just made a very good 2nd hand deal for the latest 2011 iMac which will last for the next 5+ years, so I have time to watch how Apple products develop.
It could have been a new iMac 2012, but y'know, Phil... customers just don't agree with you!
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Hahahaa, sorry, but you're just the BEST FANBOI out there!
In fact, I just made a very good 2nd hand deal for the latest 2011 iMac which will last for the next 5+ years, so I have time to watch how Apple products develop.
It could have been a new iMac 2012, but y'know, Phil... customers just don't agree with you!
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Hahahaa, sorry, but you're just the BEST FANBOI out there!
The problem is that there aren't any decent commercial Blu Ray player software for OS X, which is the actual problem, not the lack of the drive. Apple is ditching the optical drives, so you'd need to buy an external drive eventually even if Macs had a blu ray drive for a couple of years. And it's not just Apple who isn't releasing a player software. Nobody is doing it. The last time we had this discussion, people didn't have any idea whether Apple had to pay some licence for the audio codecs so a 3rd party developer can write a working software on OS X or can the 3rd party pay the licence themselves to write it. Does anyone know how it works on Windows? As far as I know, Microsoft doesn't have any Blu Ray player which comes bundled with Windows either, people use PowerDVD mostly it seems which costs 100$. I'd gladly pay 100$ for a working Blu Ray software so it gets me out of ripping my discs to .mkv first. And the players I've tried so far don't even pass for alpha.
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People might not be asking for blu-ray anymore, but they ARE asking for user serviceable parts such as HDD, ram and on notebooks, batteries...apple arnt listening to those people either.
Perfect example of if you stick your fingers in your ears and shout "LALALALA NOT LISTENING" for long enough, people get fed up of talking to you and leave you to it, they go elsewhere and speak to someone sensible instead.
Perfect example of if you stick your fingers in your ears and shout "LALALALA NOT LISTENING" for long enough, people get fed up of talking to you and leave you to it, they go elsewhere and speak to someone sensible instead.
I like Phil most of the guys on stage at Apple events nowadays but he should really listen to customers and give me a desktop grade graphics card in an iMac and make the hdd and ram easily user serviceable in all models instead of making the edge of a desktop device 5mm thin.
Two completely different devices. Two completely different functions. A blu-ray player has ONE function. An iPad?
A blu-ray player's function is to play discs and that can be shared at the same time by a while family or friends. A single iPad is an individual device for one person at a time almost exclusively. IE - more likely to have more than one in a household.
iPad is a unique device whereas Blu-Ray has/had to compete first with DVD and VHS and now just DVD.
I don't disagree with your last paragraph. I just think you have a very poor comparison. You can't compare the success of the iPad to the success of blu-ray.
A blu-ray player's function is to play discs and that can be shared at the same time by a while family or friends. A single iPad is an individual device for one person at a time almost exclusively. IE - more likely to have more than one in a household.
iPad is a unique device whereas Blu-Ray has/had to compete first with DVD and VHS and now just DVD.
I don't disagree with your last paragraph. I just think you have a very poor comparison. You can't compare the success of the iPad to the success of blu-ray.
I am missing something here, Blu-Ray quality is 1080p, up to what? 50Mbps? DTS Master Audio, with all the additional extras etc on one disk.
If apple can do that via streaming to all the world with their rural dial up connections, then I applaud them.
Until the bandwidth of streaming can keep up with the bandwidth of the best optical drives, then streaming is not the answer.
If apple can do that via streaming to all the world with their rural dial up connections, then I applaud them.
Until the bandwidth of streaming can keep up with the bandwidth of the best optical drives, then streaming is not the answer.
Getting tired of this crap
You know back in 2008 when I bought my first Mac (Macbook) I saw value in paying a little more for an Apple product. Today, I see nothing but compromises if I select a Apple product.
I'm really getting tired of their "Apple knows best" crap.
Apple doesn't know what I want and I'm sure they don't care. It's time for me to look elsewhere.
You know back in 2008 when I bought my first Mac (Macbook) I saw value in paying a little more for an Apple product. Today, I see nothing but compromises if I select a Apple product.
I'm really getting tired of their "Apple knows best" crap.
Apple doesn't know what I want and I'm sure they don't care. It's time for me to look elsewhere.
Never said it would be soon. Just that the writing is on the wall.
So it's irrelevant that streaming growth is fivefold on the positive side while physical media growth is in the negative? How is that irrelevant to the debate about trends in media consumption? On the contrary it IS the whole point.
Again, don't know where you got the "soon". The trend is already here. The discs will be around quite a while as they die out.
"Glee"? Facts are facts. Physical media is dying, streaming is growing at a fantastic rate. I don't take any particular pleasure in the death of physical media in general. I personally got rid of hundreds of DVDs and Blu Rays in 2009 and haven't been happier since. But that's because I now enjoy watching what I want, when I want, without storing and maintaining a large physical disc library and waiting for players to boot, discs to spin up, corporate logos, splash screens, previews, and menus before every movie I watch.
I find it more odd that you feel so protective of a media format. Yes, Apple fans like quality products. But we don't insist on new, high-tech cassette players, 8-track tape players, or VHS players in our Apple products. And we don't insist on optical players anymore. Most of us are ready to move on. I think Apple timed it right. They kept giving us optical players until we were no longer using them. (I haven't used the optical drives in my last 3 MacBook Pros.) Yes, I realize some people still use them. But that dwindling minority can't dictate the market. Nor can they stop the inevitable. Why are some so afraid of the future?
You don't own ANY of the Blu Ray movies you paid for! You were merely granted a license to WATCH them in private. It is illegal for you to copy them as well, even for "backup" or any other personal use. You basically paid for a lifetime "subscription" up front
Subscription models are hardly price gouging. They allow me to watch content at a fraction of the $25 average price of a single Blu Ray disc. And without the hassles.
I'm feeling the same way.
Same, and I'm in the market for a couple of new computers too. A few years ago all I bought were Apple computers. Now I'm looking at keeping one Mac for the studio and switch the rest over to PC.
Unfortunately I can already see the spin of "desktop sales declining" when people give up on buying Macs, pushing them further into the portable market. I hope this won't be the case. But that's -2 computers every year from me.
So...you are in the path of a hurricane and you choose to....stay home and watch TV? Genius. Next week, when your body is found, will it still be important whether your last 10 minute of TV was from the net or a disc?
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