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Phil Schiller Defends iPad Mini Pricing Decision
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I am just curious as I used to own a Droid a while back. Aren't most of the google apps, for the phone and not for the tablet?
if they had thrown in the a6 and left the resolution as is, 329 sounds about right. but then, a 16gb iPad, with 2gb taken up by the os really doesn't leave you with much room for productivity apps or even iPhoto.
i would have liked to have seen the 32gb model go for 399.
with a 399 price point (plus the a6 chip) i'm sure they would have been the big seller this holiday.
i would have liked to have seen the 32gb model go for 399.
with a 399 price point (plus the a6 chip) i'm sure they would have been the big seller this holiday.
I used to build PC's all the time and the mess of wires and connectors would prompt me to get the hell out and close the covers and pretend nothing happened.
Neatness inside an Apple device is great. I opened a Macbook pro I used to own and saw how neat and clean it was. I would say the same about SONY devices as well(From the 80's that were made in Japan) from SW Radio's to walkman's
Regarding the sound, yes I could either use a SoundBlaster card or go for the open source ASIO driver. But instead I bought a cakewalk UA-1G USB interface and its amazing.
I connected my iMac using SPDIF output to my speakers and I lost any sort of volume control in my Mac. I couldn't use the keyboard nor the volume control menulet to control the sound and it was annoying to reach for the speakers behind the mac to do so.
Luckily i pulled out the Cakewalk USB audio interface, installed the drivers, connected the device and I have SPDIF output and volume control on the Mac. Glad I was able to put it to use... lol
$329 is perfect
This is obviously the replacement for the iPad2 at some point and as such is a great starting price for it.
1. same resolution
2. same battery life
3. better front and back cameras
4. HD photo/video
5. smaller
6. lighter(by half)
7. nano-sim
8. LTE
9. Bluetooth 4.0
10. oh yeah...and Siri!
This all adds up to a much better iPad and well worth the $329 introductory price along with the upgrade prices that still make it cheaper and better than the iPad2. If anything, I'm surprised Apple is keeping the iPad2 for sale instead of immediately replacing it with the mini.
This is obviously the replacement for the iPad2 at some point and as such is a great starting price for it.
1. same resolution
2. same battery life
3. better front and back cameras
4. HD photo/video
5. smaller
6. lighter(by half)
7. nano-sim
8. LTE
9. Bluetooth 4.0
10. oh yeah...and Siri!
This all adds up to a much better iPad and well worth the $329 introductory price along with the upgrade prices that still make it cheaper and better than the iPad2. If anything, I'm surprised Apple is keeping the iPad2 for sale instead of immediately replacing it with the mini.
And so once again Apple does what's best for Apple and doesn't listen to the Wall Street analysts and investor nerds. Good for them. People betting on or against certain companies want all kinds of things to go certain ways... Apple is apparently well inoculated from the junk-talk and does their own thing.
I'm not an Apple shareholder, but I sure wish I was. Anyone betting they wont sell millions of these Minis is an idiot, no matter what price point its at.
I'm not an Apple shareholder, but I sure wish I was. Anyone betting they wont sell millions of these Minis is an idiot, no matter what price point its at.
Don't let the number of apps fool you though, Google has far less quality control so all kinds of bulls--t apps wind up there. Boobies this, and farts that. Tons of them are junk apps from 9 yr old developers (in my worthless opinion).
299.00 was the magic number...Apple fumbled this...the new iPod is overpriced it should have been priced at 250.00 yet somehow the mini probably will still sell.
Absolutely the truth. I have the original Fire and the only thing I use it for is reading or amazon streaming movies. It is useless for anything else for my usage. Web browsing sucks as stated above. A "better experience" is a good choice of words for the iPad. Not even close. (I have an iPhone 5 and several iPods) I have been thinking about selling it for months but now it's a no brainer. Not sure if I will get the mini or the 4th gen now though??
Ipad mini is old hardware parts, less than stellar resolution compared to retina (and compared to $199 nexus 7 and fire HD), a measle 512mb of ram, and older A5 processor. But it matters not! This thing is going to SELL fast! Typical smart apple for releasing "diminished" products while the real deal is a generation or 2 away.
I'd rather have a nexus 7 for 199, than an ipad mini for 330. Money to burn feels good!
I'd rather have a nexus 7 for 199, than an ipad mini for 330. Money to burn feels good!
Then you are not the customers that Apple targeted.. The real question is how many Ipad mini will Apple sell in 4Q. Analysts are putting a range of 5-8m unit. In one of the rumor before Ipad mini launch, Apple was mentioned to have about 5m units a month production capacity. So looks like Apple has the ability to produce 10-12m units of so (from pre-launch builded through the entire 4Q) for 4Q12 sales. I think we can term Ipad mini a successful product if it can sell 5M units a Q... How many Nexus 7 Google sold? or Amazon Fire HD? Neither Google nor Amazon are willing to disclose their number. I think that speak volume of how many they sold.. Google is trying to force Samsung and the like to produce tablet at cost to increase the number of Android tablet sales. Google is not going to produce a lot of units and sell them at a loss. Google just want to set up the low price expectation in the market. The problem is that now that the price is so low, would any Android vendors willing to head into the tablet space? If not, Google will have to keep producing the tablet at break even or at a loss to try to set up Android Tablet ecosystem...
I guessed as did many others it would be below £199 to compete and confined many freinds to wait on buying a Nexus 7, they might pay and extra 40-50 but not an extra £100..
Apple you have severely lost it mate, who really cares how bloody thin the things is, I'd rather have functionality over design anyday..
No ram slots for the 21" iMac are you serious? what a joke
Apple you have severely lost it mate, who really cares how bloody thin the things is, I'd rather have functionality over design anyday..
No ram slots for the 21" iMac are you serious? what a joke
Seriously?
The iPad Mini will sell like hotcakes...... you can take that to the bank.
Nuff said.
Of the various people who responded to me, your post presents an argument that I can get behind: getting out of the Android experience and into Ubuntu seems like a worthwhile pursuit. But for me, if I wanted to tinker around with Linux at this price-point, I'd probably buy cheap refurb netbook. To my mind there's little point in having a laptop- or desktop-class OS without having a hardware keyboard and pointing device, at least not when it comes to running apps.
But based on your thoughtful post, I'm going to look into the state of LAMP and how well it plays with touch-based UI. That could indeed make the Nexus an interesting use-case.
Crap Apps
I would agree 110%.
I use both and have downloaded my share of apps that promise a function or features only to remove the app because it was crap.
I have definitely wasted my share of money on iOS. Not so much on Android because the refund is easier.
And for both platforms, 90% of apps are crap
I would agree 110%.
I use both and have downloaded my share of apps that promise a function or features only to remove the app because it was crap.
I have definitely wasted my share of money on iOS. Not so much on Android because the refund is easier.
I know. Lot of apps from China peeking into your contacts whereas the app was *supposedly* just a calculator.
I feel any price point they would of made it would of been some type of issue with someone. People who just purchased the iPod touch for example, would complain how the new iPad mini is $50 cheaper (at $250) or the same price (at $299) and how they feel "betrayed" by Apple. No, I'm not a "Fanboy" I'm just realistic.
But the apps are not optimized. To this day, there isn't a note taking app that I would replace the app on my ipad. They are clunky. So That's great that you mention the specs. But if you have no road to drive your ferrari, then all you are doing is garaging it and looking at it from a distance.
GPS and less expensive might be valid points. But the more RAM and CPU doesn't matter. Android is a resource hog and you need that power to run it decently.
If it was 3G capable in the low-end version, it would be a big seller in Brazil, but considering the lack of public wi-fi hotspots here, it's only usable outside my house if I have an Android or iPhone nearby running a hotspot AP.
In googles case, they do not sell your data to anyone.
Its been mentioned at least 2 dozen times in this thread.
WHY IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND. GOOGLE DOES NOT DOES NOT DOES NOT DOES NOT SELL YOUR DATA TO ANYONE
Stop the complaining!
I am just on the floor at how rediculous some of you are. If you don't like the price don't buy it. But the fact that some of you think Apple dropped the ball, as if you're somewhat a better pricing strategist than the most successful company, is hilarious. Obviously people have different incomes. This world contains variation. So if the price causes you pain, so be it, buy another device. But to claim Apple should compete in price to Amazon or Nexus is to say they should lower quality of experience. That's not what's Apple is about. Yes, they are about experience. Think about it. You're gonna use this 2-4 hours per day for the next year or more. It's not about specs, it's about experience as a whole. And apple excels at this. You're brains works differently, your values aren't all the same. Fine. Choose the brand designed for your particular income and experience type. Then stop complaining. Sheesh.
I am just on the floor at how rediculous some of you are. If you don't like the price don't buy it. But the fact that some of you think Apple dropped the ball, as if you're somewhat a better pricing strategist than the most successful company, is hilarious. Obviously people have different incomes. This world contains variation. So if the price causes you pain, so be it, buy another device. But to claim Apple should compete in price to Amazon or Nexus is to say they should lower quality of experience. That's not what's Apple is about. Yes, they are about experience. Think about it. You're gonna use this 2-4 hours per day for the next year or more. It's not about specs, it's about experience as a whole. And apple excels at this. You're brains works differently, your values aren't all the same. Fine. Choose the brand designed for your particular income and experience type. Then stop complaining. Sheesh.
You clearly have no concept of the benefits it offers in software diversity/stability, let alone quality of build. I predict that Apple will bump the resolution with the next iteration, but even now 1024x768 is sufficient for that size with the other benefits the display offers over higher res pads (colour saturation, ghosting issues experienced with Fire and Nexus 7). Graphically, this also outperforms competing tablets; CPU power is technically the only area in which it under performs, which is negated anyway with a more optimised OS/software lineup. This product will do just fine.
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