Which is exactly what MS has done, i.e. made something different and made a better, please credit where it's due. I don't see why they couldn't make a consumer version of this product which would just be a well spec'd AIO.
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Phil Schiller Says Apple Tested and Rejected Touch Screen Macs, Finding It 'Absurd' on a Desktop
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Which is exactly what MS has done, i.e. made something different and made a better, please credit where it's due. I don't see why they couldn't make a consumer version of this product which would just be a well spec'd AIO.
The surface studio is already receiving criticism for being extremely underspecced relative to the price you pay for it. So clearly, all the money went into that giant touchscreen. You don't even get smooth frame rates when pinching to zoom in or out, so clearly, the software still leaves much to be desired.
So yes, it is better for like the 5% of users who might legitimately benefit from one, and worse for the other 95% of users who don't need such functionality but have to pay for it anyways.
There is no middle ground that will please everyone, unless you further bifurcate your product line.
From what I have seen in 2016 I'd say they wasted it at Starbucks.
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Yea but Tim Cook is always carping on about something or other.
You mean like you are?From what I have seen in 2016 I'd say they wasted it at Starbucks.
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Yea but Tim Cook is always carping on about something or other.
It's clear in the diagram that Apple has thought about how the screen would adjust for touch.
you don't have a spare bluetooth apple keyboard lying around? give it a try, it works. after a day you'll be touching your MacBook screen all the time
LOL. Tennis elbow? What a joke. Using a touch screen sporadically will not cause tennis elbow. i use it to zoom and pin windows. Touch can be very handy.
They are right about that. With the form factor of the MacBook Pro a touch screen doesn't make sense. Now if they created some kind of convertable tablet/MacBook then that would be a different story. I'd love to see a tablet that runs OSX. Then I can run my programs I normally use on a tablet. The main thing would be the weight. Of course if they got rid of the keyboard and have the screen and internals in a single case then that would save quite a bit of weight.
This is a really interesting video from Casey Neistat. He talks about needing to change up the interface and interaction and calls out Microsoft for doing a lot more than Apple in this space. This guy is influential with his MB Pro review uploaded today with over 750,000 views already.
Also interesting is that he really pans Apple about getting rid of USB A and the SD card slot. With people like this making waves about Apple's direction and design choices there is more chance they will listen and respond with more flexibility. Or then again maybe not.....
Also interesting is that he really pans Apple about getting rid of USB A and the SD card slot. With people like this making waves about Apple's direction and design choices there is more chance they will listen and respond with more flexibility. Or then again maybe not.....
If you read what I wrote, I said if your entire work day revolved around doing it, that is constantly lifting your fingers to the screen being supported by your elbow, I can guarantee you will develop some type of elbow injury.
Sure mate, but this shows that Apple thought of this and probably produced and tested it 6+ years ago. So when you say "have Phil seen the ms studio thing?" - the answer is probably "yes, and Apple did it 6 years ago"
"If we were to do Multi-Touch on the screen of the notebook, that wouldn’t be enough"
If you added more storage, RAM, that wouldn't be enough. If you got rid of the headphone jack and added more stereo that wouldn't be enough. It's never enough.
Accessibility in multiple ways is appreciated. Why have a Touch Bar when you have function keys and the ability to use a gigantic touchpad to point and click on any function you wanted to perform on the screen?
Having a Touch Screen is a no-brainer, unless maybe you really wanted to differentiate that iPad and Macbook product line, which from a business perspective makes sense for higher profit margins without negatively impacting that market you've created.
If you added more storage, RAM, that wouldn't be enough. If you got rid of the headphone jack and added more stereo that wouldn't be enough. It's never enough.
Accessibility in multiple ways is appreciated. Why have a Touch Bar when you have function keys and the ability to use a gigantic touchpad to point and click on any function you wanted to perform on the screen?
Having a Touch Screen is a no-brainer, unless maybe you really wanted to differentiate that iPad and Macbook product line, which from a business perspective makes sense for higher profit margins without negatively impacting that market you've created.
Only if your diet consists of OJ and crack cocaine.whereas a touch bar on a laptop makes perfect sense
The point is I'm not in charge of a multi-billion dollar company which can no longer innovate. BTW perhaps given Apple's current lineup it's time you considered a change of forum name.
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That's the point, Apple did most things six years ago and not a lot has happened since.
I"m amazed how Apple has left the creative segment of their business. The Surface Studio is right up my ally!
I don't understand how the criticism that is endlessly heaped on Apple (not replaceable parts, "under spec'd" hardware, astronomical pricing) is just waved away when it comes to the Studio.
Yes I think it's neat, but if people are so bothered by the complaints I listed for Apple, why is it the second coming of Jesus when it's literally any other company?
Perhaps because they're genuinely trying to move the technology forward. This was something Apple use to excel at but now seem far more interested in becoming known as a fashion icon.
So forward is now defined by "under spec'd" and non user upgradable machines? Who knew Apple was ahead of the curve?
You didn't address anything I wrote.
On the one hand - Tim Cook is too great hopes were laid. It is difficult to become the second man Steve Jobs.
On the other hand - it was under his command ship called Apple began to sink. So yes, it is not a good top manager.
I'm a Mac and Surface (Pro 3) owner.
I bought into the Surface (Pro 3) after being curious over how MS marketed it as best of worlds between tablet and laptop. I also wanted it to do some rough sketching. After using it for a year, I can say -- at least for myself -- that Phil's logic made sense to me.
Ask me how often I use my surface pro as a tablet --> rarely. The tablet experience feels subpar compared with Android and iOS.
Ask me how often I use the touch screen as a laptop --> I found it frustrating. The angle to use it for touch screen is uncomfortable in laptop mode. Even when changing the angle to be more flat, the UI is not optimize for touch screen -- even in tablet mode. All the buttons are too small to press, and I often generated more wrong clicks with the touch screen than when keyboard and mouse. When I use it is because I have to: Sometimes the scroll in my BT Surface mouse mouse because stuck in scrolling up mode. I have to use the touch screen to get out of it.
For day-to-day user interface, I much prefer a keyboard and mouse. Much more productive with it rather than wasting time wrestling with the touch interface.
What I do like about the surface is as a tool for drawing with the surface pen, and the form factor. With Manga Studio Pro its great!
I stopped by MS store to try out their Surface desktop. I was able to reposition it and lay it down is a more flat angle, but as I tried to navigate the UI just using touch... unless some of the UI on that large screen has larger buttons so it's less chances of missing the some buttons. Navigating through windows still feels unnatural and makes my hands and wrist feel more fatigue than just with a keyboard and mouse. Same positives though. As a sketching tool... it's amazing!
I concluded for myself, touch screen monitor for general computing and productivity outside of being a tool for art and clunky and awkward and uncomfortable over period of time (about 30 mins for me). When using Windows for web browsing and word processing, the touch screen is more distracting then it does to help me be more productive.
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I played with it for 30 mins.
Amazing as a art tool (for graphics, sketching, etc)
Lousy as a general computing desktop: uncomfortable, cause fatigue, and still clunky... went back to using keyboard and mouse.
As a business tool and investment... those that make a living with sketch pads... it is an amazing tool.
For everything and everyone else... traditional keyboard and mouse interface is much better.
Phil should test the stupid healing pyramid Craig Federighi bought during the Apple Pay demo. Classic Californian quackery.
That's the whole point though. It's both! The choice is yours in how you wish to interact.
ATM far too pricey for the general public but this kind of desktop could become the norm.
That's the whole point of Inkwell, the handwriting recognition component in macOS, available since 10.2 (Jaguar).