I can see that the Studio is a non-upgradable $3000+ machine, which only matters when you're Apple for some reason...
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Phil Schiller Says Apple Tested and Rejected Touch Screen Macs, Finding It 'Absurd' on a Desktop
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How do you know it's non-upgradable. Have you tried? I haven't seen an iFixit Teardown so perhaps you know more than most?
Engadget (I underlined the relevant part to make it easier to find):
"The majority of creatives we spoke to weren't planning on moving over to the Studio. A lack of power and upgrade paths (the Studio's internals aren't upgradable like on a tower PC) were deciding factors. Bret Recor, founder and creative director at Box Clever, said he was "definitely interested in seeing how it can help us with our design process," and is "more concerned about Windows 10's stability with demanding software" than latency or input lag. He is also hoping to see if Microsoft offers models with higher-performance processors."
I've been keeping an eye on the product. Personally I think it's cool, not really relevant to anything I need but cool nonetheless.
I should note that I've never been personally bothered by the lack of upgradability on machines. I had a 2009 MBP that I personally upgraded but when I purchased my 2015 I knew that upgrading wasn't going to be an option so I saved up for another couple of weeks and bought what will be my computer until 2020 (or longer).
Apple computers aren't supposed to be upgradable and yet there is my iMac with a user (that would be me) fitted internal SSD/HDD combo plus 20gigs of RAM. Don't always believe what it says on the tin.
I upgraded 200 iMacs at my last job, I'm well aware of this fact. I'm awaiting the iFixit teardown just like you to see what's what.
We may have a long wait as iFixit has already replied to someone that they don't always teardown every model of computer and as yet they are not looking at the SS.
Damn, the articulated arms are what interest me most. I've looked into the history of the arm on the "sunflower" iMac (I think it was a G3) and that thing was an engineering marvel.
That's still not what the patent is about. Moreover, it couldn't be, even if they wished. Such screen attachments have been around a long time. Heck, I had a big screen Clio PDA around 1999 like that.
Are you kidding?
Just think about how many times have people ignored low specs or non-upgradeability on Apple products, just because something about it was super cool.
I think, my friend, that you have Apple blinders on.
For instance, the first iPhone was nicknamed the "Jesus Phone", even though it was missing all the really important stuff that every other smartphone had at the time (3G, MMS, video cam, apps).
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If that's true, Apple customers are going to have the exact same problem with the 12" iPad Pro with the attached keyboard using it as their primary desktop computer. In fact, for anyone using their iPad Pro this way, as Apple promotes, they're likely going to develop neck injuries too. So, it sounds like you're warning Apple to get ready for lawsuits?
This guy's probably gonna have neck, elbow, and wrist problems ... Probably shoulder, and back problems as well. And we've only really had touch screens in any widespread way for a decade, so who knows what kind of finger problems will develop after long term use. So according to your criticism of the Surface, Apple should probably lawyer up and bring some of that offshore money back to settle the impending lawsuits.
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If that's true, Apple customers are going to have the exact same problem with the 12" iPad Pro with the attached keyboard using it as their primary desktop computer. In fact, for anyone using their iPad Pro this way, as Apple promotes, they're likely going to develop neck injuries too. So, it sounds like you're warning Apple to get ready for lawsuits?
This guy's probably gonna have neck, elbow, and wrist problems ... Probably shoulder, and back problems as well. And we've only really had touch screens in any widespread way for a decade, so who knows what kind of finger problems will develop after long term use. So according to your criticism of the Surface, Apple should probably lawyer up and bring some of that offshore money back to settle the impending lawsuits.
I'm sure it can work for basic users, but it wouldn't make too sense for big companies. They'd rather get cheaper workstation PCs that are upgradable.
If that's true, Apple customers are going to have the exact same problem with the 12" iPad Pro with the attached keyboard using it as their primary desktop computer. In fact, for anyone using their iPad Pro this way, as Apple promotes, they're likely going to develop neck injuries too. So, it sounds like you're warning Apple to get ready for lawsuits?
This guy's probably gonna have neck, elbow, and wrist problems ... Probably shoulder, and back problems as well. And we've only really had touch screens in any widespread way for a decade, so who knows what kind of finger problems will develop after long term use. So according to your criticism of the Surface, Apple should probably lawyer up and bring some of that offshore money back to settle the impending lawsuits.
I'm not giving Apple a pass on this. The same definitely applies to the iPad, be it the Pro version or Air version. The concept of doing daily work using a combination of screen touch and keyboard is a recipe for trouble and is highly inefficient. My guess is that most people, even if using the combination of touch screen and keyboard, aren't doing it for 8 hours a day, because it is just too difficult. I put up with it for a while, when traveling with my iPad Air with BT keyboard, but it was just too slow for me to do any kind of daily work and I've stopped using my iPad for travel, carrying my 15" rMBP instead.
That's still not what the patent is about. Moreover, it couldn't be, even if they wished. Such screen attachments have been around a long time. Heck, I had a big screen Clio PDA around 1999 like that.
Are you kidding?
Just think about how many times have people ignored low specs or non-upgradeability on Apple products, just because something about it was super cool.
I think, my friend, that you have Apple blinders on.
For instance, the first iPhone was nicknamed the "Jesus Phone", even though it was missing all the really important stuff that every other smartphone had at the time (3G, MMS, video cam, apps).
The point is that they thought about an adjustable display. I'm not saying they got a patent for it.
The masses?
What cave on the edge of civilization are you people crawling out of?
Yeesh...this is just creepy.
Apple isn't a political movement.
Anyway, I played with the touch bar for an hour today, and it's definitely a nice feature that gives the benefit of touch without comprising a dynamic desktop operating system.
Moreover, I think this is a step in a direction of full touch dynamic keyboards that will still allow for a powerful desktop environment.
This is true, though with the lengths some people go to in order to defend Apple I would say it's more of an 'evangelical movement'.
My personal experience with devices that wants to be too much ends up not being as great in anything. I didn't have good experience with that surface desktop in "desktop" mode or what I meant is when I'm not using it as a design tool, and just general word processing, web navigation, etc. Awkward would be a very polite word I would use.
Would be hard to financially justify that purchase for most people who isn't making a living out of it.
The Draughtsman's board style and angle is perfect for touch and pen interaction. I agree that when the screen is at a right angle to the user it's not ergonomic but being over your work with a pen couldn't be more natural.
There's loads of things I don't like about the Surface Studio but if I had a lot of money sloshing about I'd be tempted to buy one for the form factor, given the internals aren't too bad. And I salute Microsoft for coming up with the design, at least someone's innovating. Apple are just grinding out iterative fluff these days.
There's loads of things I don't like about the Surface Studio but if I had a lot of money sloshing about I'd be tempted to buy one for the form factor, given the internals aren't too bad. And I salute Microsoft for coming up with the design, at least someone's innovating. Apple are just grinding out iterative fluff these days.
Still laughing here. Seems Apple's mantra of "THIN ABOVE ALL" includes the minds of Apple's creative teams.
OWC with another company modified Apple laptops to have touch screens.
Microsoft (yeah I said it) has their Studio model computer which looks like a cross of Mac Mini and iMac and it has touch capabilities that not only work but actually ADD to the experience.
C'mon Apple is this the best you can do?
OWC with another company modified Apple laptops to have touch screens.
Microsoft (yeah I said it) has their Studio model computer which looks like a cross of Mac Mini and iMac and it has touch capabilities that not only work but actually ADD to the experience.
C'mon Apple is this the best you can do?
But you wouldn't really use it as a touch device in Desktop mode. Surely you would use mouse and keyboard. It seems to me that unless it says iPhone Apple are no longer interested and are simply going through the motions with their computer division.
Apple really need some new fresh young blood at the top of their organisation - they have forgotten their roots.
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Even though I'm one of those who complained about no touch screen, after reading a lot of subsequent replies, I'm now convinced what we want is one machine to be everything to us. My ideal machine would be a 9.7" pro for drawing, that magically transforms to 27" Mac when I need to format the files for printing and compose them into a book. Not going to happen.
Apple used to have a built-in flexibility - features for the beginner and power user at the same time. We could Use keyboard shortcuts or mouse away for hours. A blanket denial by Schiller is taking that flexibility away from us. We all won't want a touch screen, but some of us really really do.
Apple used to have a built-in flexibility - features for the beginner and power user at the same time. We could Use keyboard shortcuts or mouse away for hours. A blanket denial by Schiller is taking that flexibility away from us. We all won't want a touch screen, but some of us really really do.