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Phil Schiller Tweets Link to Another Security Report Criticizing Android

lk400 said:
Right - because Apple never did mac vs pc ads where they made the same kind of statements about PCs.

Apple should just point out the strengths of the competition - right? Just like all the other well intentioned, good consience companies - thats what they do!
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Actually I do not believe it is beyond Apples capability to actually 'innovate' to win sales. Is that too hard to understand?
Why do you feel Apple simply has to slander the competition by misrepresenting information, using under hand and unprofessional tactics.

Do you have any proof of Google or Samsung directors tweeting slander on their competition from their private accounts?

But as you said already, slating the competition seems to be the only Apple knows how to advertise its products, I think it needs to grow up on that front.
 
Marine Boy!

Wow. Phil uses the obscure "Marine Boy" as his avatar. Took me quite a bit to remember the name of that kid. The dude had a working boomerang under water!
 
BaldiMac said:
Actually, you can look at it more that two ways. Cisco chose to look at it by browser user agent. Not everything has to be about Android v iOS.
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I'm not familiar with browser user agent. But that would mean that the browser user agent between ipads/iphones/ipods are all different while android phones/tablets/music players have all the same browser user agent?

Just from my point of view... It makes little to no sense.
 
macfacts said:
Mobile Safari usage numbers are high because it is always reloading tabs, thus artificially skewing the numbers.
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There's no proof of that. Proper statistics should take into account how frequently a page is visited by a user in a short space of time.
 
His tweet proves that Apple is worried about Android, yet it took them a few years to wake-up to the threat. They're acting like Microsoft did when ignoring several key areas of opportunity. It's sad to see Apple becoming old fat and so self congratulatory.
 
apolloa said:
Actually I do not believe it is beyond Apples capability to actually 'innovate' to win sales. Is that too hard to understand?
Why do you feel Apple simply has to slander the competition by misrepresenting information, using under hand and unprofessional tactics.

Do you have any proof of Google or Samsung directors tweeting slander on their competition from their private accounts?

But as you said already, slating the competition seems to be the only Apple knows how to advertise its products, I think it needs to grow up on that front.
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I dont think slander means what you think it means:

slander: the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.

Slander is a technical legal term - and truth is a defence to it. To be slander it has to be false. Are you saying the data is false?

Also, it seems that you believe that a company can only make sales by doing one thing at a time - either it creates "innovative" products (a word so many love to throw around now), or it markets itself, and you believe those two things are mutually exclusive. So your conclusion is that in marketing itself, apple is no longer innovating. I am not certain, but I thought its possible to do both of those things at once.

Finally what would the existence or otherwise of google or any other company doing similar marketing change the current situation? It doesnt seem relevant.
 
LagunaSol said:
Why would they when they have paid minions to do it for them in online forums?
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Despicable-me-minions.jpg


Papple Palla doobela boo! (Apple is doomed! TM)
 
kmoreau48 said:
Since when do we compare operating system versus hardware? Android should be compare to iOS. iPhones, iPads and iPods should all be in the same category.
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Whatever makes Apple and iOS look good right?! ;)

I personally agree, and I find it more fascinating that Windows Phone does a better job than both major platforms.

We can save the "marketshare" debate. We floored that in the late 90s. ;)
 
Digital Skunk said:
I personally agree, and I find it more fascinating that Windows Phone does a better job than both major platforms.
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That's not what the data being discussed says. It shows Windows Phone encountering web malware at a higher rate than iOS. (i.e. Windows Phone encounters a higher percentage of web malware than its percentage of web usage.)
 
BaldiMac said:
That's not what the data being discussed says. It shows Windows Phone encountering web malware at a higher rate than iOS. (i.e. Windows Phone encounters a higher percentage of web malware than its percentage of web usage.)
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Oops! That chart really does look like it says that Android picks up more web malware, and everything behind it picks up less.

So if it shows WP encountering web malware at a higher rate that iOS, does that mean that Android encounters less?
 
Digital Skunk said:
Oops! That chart really does look like it says that Android picks up more web malware, and everything behind it picks up less.

So if it shows WP encountering web malware at a higher rate that iOS, does that mean that Android encounters less?
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No. I was comparing it to web usage to put the stats in context.
http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8&qpcustomd=1

iOS
55% of mobile web usage
~25% of web malware encounters

Android
34% of mobile web usage
~70% of web malware encounters

Windows Phone
0.7% of mobile web usage
~3% of web malware encounters

Both Android and Windows Phone encounter malware on the web at a higher rate than total web usage. iOS users surf the web more but encounter less malware on the web.

I can only guess why this might be true. I'd bet the biggest factor is simply demographics. Not sure if there are any technical reasons.
 
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BaldiMac said:
No. I was comparing it to web usage to put the stats in context.
http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8&qpcustomd=1

iOS
55% of mobile web usage
~25% of web malware encounters

Android
34% of mobile web usage
~70% of web malware encounters

Windows Phone
0.7% of mobile web usage
~3% of web malware encounters

Both Android and Windows Phone encounter malware on the web at a higher rate than total web usage. iOS users surf the web more but encounter less malware on the web.

I can only guess why this might be true. I'd bet the biggest factor is simply demographics. Not sure if there are any technical reasons.
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Oh, I see, and I agree that demographics may play a role when you look at those numbers.

The numbers for Android are pretty serious.
 
Digital Skunk said:
Oh, I see, and I agree that demographics may play a role when you look at those numbers.

The numbers for Android are pretty serious.
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Couldn't this be that android users visit more unscrupulous websites? Especially if we are talking about undesired redirects from ad networks or whatever.

I'm still confused as to what constitutes malware. I'm not aware of any hijacking done through the browser like in windows. For those that use flash on android (me :) ), I haven't heard stories of compromises there either.
 
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gotluck said:
Couldn't this be that android users visit more unscrupulous websites? Especially if we are talking about undesired redirects from ad networks or whatever.
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It could be, but one problem I've always had with analysts and such is that in one breath they say that Android users don't use their data plans and WiFi as much as iOS users. Then in the next breath it's that they make up 70% of the web traffic and they gather the most malware.

So which one is it? Do Android users NOT use the internet on their phones, but when they do they immediately decide to click on suspect ads in their free apps?

It's why I try not to bother.
 
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