Philips Extends HomeKit Support to Hue Tap, Dimmer Switch, and Motion Sensor

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    Philips today extended support for Apple's HomeKit platform to the Hue Tap switch, Hue dimmer switch, and Hue motion sensor.

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    The trio of accessories can now be used to activate HomeKit scenes in the Home app to control other HomeKit-enabled accessories in a home.
    The compatibility was added in an update to the Philips Hue app for iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch, available now on the App Store [Direct Link].

    The second-generation HomeKit-compatible Hue Bridge is required.

    Article Link: Philips Extends HomeKit Support to Hue Tap, Dimmer Switch, and Motion Sensor
     
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    Does this mean I can now use a Tap to set a scene, or that HomeKit can now control the Tap? The latter doesn't make any sense, lol.
     
  3. gsmornot macrumors 68030

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    I had no idea my motion sensor had a temperature sensor in it. Did I miss it before somewhere?
     
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    Yes, yes, but for more advanced features- HomeKit don't play that!
     
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    With one fell swoop, Philips may now have the quickest responding and most versatile (temperature and ambient light detection) motion sensor in the HomeKit ecosystem. My Elgato Eve Motion sensors are still quite slow to respond after iOS 11 update, so the Bluetooth latency fix must require a firmware update as well. Even with that in place, it might be the case that ZigBee that Philips Hue uses is still quicker. I must return home to try this new update out.
     
  6. gsmornot macrumors 68030

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    Tested mine. As soon as you come into the senses view it shows in Homekit. It only shows motion for about 10 seconds but it is quick to respond.
     
  7. Mike Oxard macrumors 6502a

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    So I can hit a button on my dimmer and have it set up a scene controlling the lights and room temperature? That would be great, if only my Nests supported homekit :(
     
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    I just did the update. Confusing al hell. You have to re-configure each dimmer switch button in the Home app, but I guess it overrides the settings you choose in the Hue app, which makes no sense. I guess controlling the dimmer from the Home app or Control Center will allow you to dimm all the bulbs at once which is nice.
     
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    I’ve been waiting for this update, it’s looking rather good.
     
  10. beelsebob1 macrumors newbie

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    Do these still need a Hue Bridge to work, or does this add HomeKit compatibility to the devices minus any bridges?
     
  11. wesley96 macrumors regular

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    You still need the Hue Bridge. This update merely exposes the non-lightbulb Hue accessories connected to the Bridge to HomeKit. Before the update you could do the same thing unofficially via Homebridge. Hue accessories are based on ZigBee LL protocol and have no way of connecting to an iPhone or Apple TV without a bridge.
     
  12. Ron21 macrumors 6502a

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    How do you get a notification to trigger for motion?
     
  13. MrX8503 macrumors 68000

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    This is why I invested in Philips. The only company that actually delivers on their HomeKit promises.
     
  14. Bryan Bowler macrumors 68040

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    Sweet! I invested into the Phillips Hue lighting system last Christmas and I really like it. I’m happy to see that they are continuing to add HomeKit support. After reading this, I just ordered a Motion Sensor from B&H for $37.99 with free delivery. It will be here tomorrow morning.

    Glad I saw this!
     
  15. alent1234 macrumors 603

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    I don't get these WiFi light bulbs. Just get cheapo LED's from Home Depot or Costco and who cares if you leave it on by accident during the day.
     
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    Different needs for different people. I understand you don’t have that sort of needs, but some people do. Either that or it’s fun to play around with colours and automation. :)
     
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    The ability to control the color temperature of white light has a huge effect on your mood, energy, and sleep patterns. You can easily program these light bulbs to change white balance and color throughout the day to match your needs.

    Plus, the world of automation opens up so many possibilities. When my wife is sleeping, I use the lights for timers. The lights let me know when it is about to rain. Heck, the lights even let me know when the Dallas Cowboys score...which is nice when I cannot watch the game. Plus, the lights come automatically on as I pull into the driveway and so much more.

    One of the funnest features though is to be holding my wife in bed and simply say “Hey Siri, turn off the bedroom lights.” :)
     
  21. RMo macrumors 65816

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    These aren't Wi-Fi; they're ZigBee. (Not being nitpicky, as there is actually a difference besides that; ZigBee can form a mesh network to effectively extend the range of the "bridge," and the power consumption on standby is much lower than Wi-Fi to such an extent that you can have battery-powered ZigBee devices that last for a year or more.)

    Ignoring that point, if all you want is to turn your lights on and off, this is probably not the product for you, though it works just fine for that (as would a "smart switch," though bulbs are much easier to "install"). However, I don't think that's the selling point for Hue. As the name suggests, Hue can change to different colors (really not all that useful for me) but also to different white color temperatures, so you can use a warm/yellow-ish white when you are trying to relax but change it to a more blue-ish white when you're trying to work, all using the same bulbs/lights. (Exact capabilities depend on the bulb, but all can do the latter except the fixed-color Hue White.) You can also dim without needing a fixture or switch that supports dimming--and you can use Alexa/Google/etc. or Siri to do it for you if you want.

    Beyond that, you can also use it as part of automations--for example, when you come home, turn on your front/back door light automatically (with either geofencing or a motion detector)--saves me some trouble when my hands are full of groceries and I can't see which way I'm supposed to put my key in the locks. You can also use Siri (HomeKit) or any supported app/device to turn on or off any bulb/light from anywhere, which can be nice if you want to see what you're doing as you crawl into bed and then turn the lights off. If you're on vacation, you can also randomly turn lights on/off to make it appear like the home is occupied. (Just a few examples. The possibilities are endless--including, yes, automatically [or manually from afar, for that matter--turning lights off when you leave a room. Less than half a watt is better than 10-ish watts. :) )]

    In any case, for the three people who use HomeKit, adding HomeKit support for these additional Hue devices seems like a good idea. :) Personally, I'm going to stick to SmartThings (which I unofficially integrate with HomeKit via HomeBridge, mostly for fun and the ability to use Siri; HomeKit doesn't seem versatile enough for what I want).
     
  22. zone23 macrumors 68000

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    Big question is will they ever fix the watch app? I guess no one at Phillips has an Apple Watch.
     
  23. biggest father1 macrumors member

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    Me neither! Where did you see it had one?
     
  24. Applebot1 macrumors 6502

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    Same here was shocked to see that!
     
  25. gsmornot macrumors 68030

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    It shows in the Home app after the update. I use it in a half bath to activate a lamp so I don't need the temp for the room but it makes me think I might consider it for other areas. I have ecobee with remote sensors but I may have a few uses that I don't need tied to my HVAC.
     

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