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I don't get these WiFi light bulbs. Just get cheapo LED's from Home Depot or Costco and who cares if you leave it on by accident during the day.
As others have said, if all you want is on/off control, and one kind of light, then you probably aren't a good candidate for home automation. Or, as you say, you don't get it.

But there are many uses you haven't thought of. They're not simply for turning lights on/off on a schedule to save power.

I have some Hue lights in my living room, and, yes, I can set rainbow mode, but 90% of the time the way they're used is to light the room to different color temperatures of "white" light. In the late evening, I'll run them way down at the more yellow end of the spectrum, more like what you'd expect from candlelight, and it's a really nice way to wind down.

I have Hue lights in the bedroom and hallway, and they can provide normal lighting, but also, in the middle of the night, I can tell Siri, "set nocturnal", to get red light, dimmed to 1% brightness, in the bedroom and hallway, if I need to get up but don't wish to be jarred to full wakefulness by brighter lights.

I have an iDevices Socket hooked up to a cheap waterproof LED rope light string from Home Depot, as my porch light. After hooking it up, I spent a few minutes, one time, in the Home app's Automation tab, adding rules to turn my porch light on at sunset, off at sunrise (HomeKit knows precisely when sunset and sunrise are, every day, at your location), and starting at 9pm, it drops the brightness of the porch light by 10% each hour, until it's just a dim glow very late at night (suitable for making it up the steps and finding the keyhole, without lighting up the neighborhood). I had one of those light-sensor-controlled sockets previously, and it never worked right. Simple timers can be set accurately, but then need continual adjustment as the seasons change (an "automatic" porch light that comes on an hour after it gets dark is useless). HomeKit was a bit of overkill for this scenario, but now the porch light behaves precisely the way I want, every night without fail, automatically adjusting for differing day lengths. I don't want the light on full-blast for much of the night, or during the day, and that's not simply about saving power, I simply want it to behave the way I want.
 
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My Homekit sees the hue motion sensor, and they’ll show triggered on the sensors icons however none of my automations will work in the Home app?!View attachment 723284

I had to reboot my Apple TV to get them working but they seem fine now.
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In the late evening, I'll run them way down at the more yellow end of the spectrum, more like what you'd expect from candlelight, and it's a really nice way to wind down.

I do exactly the same thing and it's fantastic. Your eyes get used to the low light and it makes going to sleep so much nicer.
 
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Brilliant!

Now I have a Hue Tap button programmed to turn on an EVE Energy connected to the coffee machine... and my Hue Sensors can send me movement notifications!

Well done, Philips. I'm ordering more Hue gear right now...
Lol, I ordered another motion sensor after this update.
 
Lol, I ordered another motion sensor after this update.
Are you getting motion sensor notifications even if the ambient light is above your set point for triggering an action (i.e. the hue app says the sensor is inactive) ?
 
Are you getting motion sensor notifications even if the ambient light is above your set point for triggering an action (i.e. the hue app says the sensor is inactive) ?

It seems to ignore the ambient light sensitivity if using HomeKit for the trigger so ti always fires, no matter how bright it is already - I suspect they'll add support for this later. You can use the HomeKit app to create a response to the sensor only between sunset & sunrise which is nice.
 
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I'm pleased I can now see the temperature and the luminosity of my room with the Hue Sensor. Always knew they had these sensors built in but was frustrated why these were never utilised or made available to users. Makes me feel better now knowing that the sensor has become more useful as I wasn't too keen on the price of the sensors when I bought them.

Also, is it just me or does anyone find the new Philips Hue app logo ugly? It's too bright, the old darker version was much better.
 
Are you getting motion sensor notifications even if the ambient light is above your set point for triggering an action (i.e. the hue app says the sensor is inactive) ?

Yes I am, just tried it for you. I’ve tested this on all my sensors.
 
I'm pleased I can now see the temperature and the luminosity of my room with the Hue Sensor. Always knew they had these sensors built in but was frustrated why these were never utilised or made available to users. Makes me feel better now knowing that the sensor has become more useful as I wasn't too keen on the price of the sensors when I bought them.

Also, is it just me or does anyone find the new Philips Hue app logo ugly? It's too bright, the old darker version was much better.
Same here, very pleased with these now ‘activated’ sensors. Remember reading on the net about JSON code that indicated there was a temp sensor.

I have issues with the HUE app preferring the first one. The current version just frustrates me.

Hoping that the sensors will one day be accessible via Alexa
 
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I’ve been waiting for this update, it’s looking rather good.
How do you enable this? Is it possible to do activate this notification when you're away from home?
Thanks!
 
I don't get these WiFi light bulbs. Just get cheapo LED's from Home Depot or Costco and who cares if you leave it on by accident during the day.
I wasn't looking for lighting automation when I dove into the Hue pool. I was just looking to solve a problem.

I have 12 feet of kitchen counter that the previous owner of my Condo didn't install any under-cabinet lighting for. I needed something at the least to see that my pots & pans came out of the sink clean! I looked at a lot of under cabinet LED solutions, from the cheap to the expensive, when I saw something online about the Hue Lightstrip Plus, and the motion sensor. The motion sensor intrigued me, because I had no switched outlet to plug lights into, and didn't want to engage an electrician.

I had to hunt around a bit. Some bits from the Apple Store, some from Home Depot, and some from Best Buy. But, eventually, I ended up with a lightstrip and extension, a motion sensor and a hub with two white (fixed color temp) bulbs.

Installing the LightStrip Plus was a breeze. Just drew a line under the cabinets, and pulled off the strip guarding the sticky tape, and up it went. I had to tape off the extra wiring, but it's all pretty invisible now.

Then the motion sensor went up. Screwed the magnetic base to the wall, then stuck the sensor on it.

After that, it was all programming the two via the hub.

Now, when someone enters the kitchen, the undercounter lights come on! Full bright most of the time, "nightlight" mode for off hours and at night.

The white bulbs were a bonus, initially. I now use them in my living room, with a dimmer, and I've bought two white "ambiance" bulbs, a dimmer for the bedroom. The white "ambiance" are the bulbs that can change color temperature, but still only create "white" light. The white and color ambiance bulbs can go all over the rainbow.

As for HomeKit, I have a few scenes set up. One is for getting ready to go to bed, when it dims the living room lights, lights the bedroom lights, and lights a lamp in the hall between that is not a Hue light. But, I need to use my iPhone or iPad to access this scene. If I could use a Tap, it would be a lot easier.

Also, HomeKit shuts off all lights when I leave the "geofence", and turns on the Living Room lights when I arrive, if I arrive after sunset.

So far, I'm liking Hue and HomeKit.
 
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How do you enable this? Is it possible to do activate this notification when you're away from home?
Thanks!
In the Home app, go to the sensor settings (details) scroll down to "Status and Notifications". You can can then add it to the status (in the overview of the home app) and also allow notifications. You can also set when you'd like notifications, e.g. any time, during the day, during the night.
 
How do you enable this? Is it possible to do activate this notification when you're away from home?
Thanks!
Go into Home Kit and click on the sensor icon( Now split between temp and motion) long press then click on ‘details’ and then ‘status and notifications’ there is various options. In terms of away from home I don’t see why not if you have a HomeKit hub.
 
Go into Home Kit and click on the sensor icon( Now split between temp and motion) long press then click on ‘details’ and then ‘status and notifications’ there is various options. In terms of away from home I don’t see why not if you have a HomeKit hub.
Do you have any detail showing in the "People" section of Status and Notifications for a sensor, or is it greyed out? (I have more than one person set up in the home)
 
How do you get a notification to trigger for motion?

Not sure if someone else had replied yet, but if you click into the motion sensor in the Home app there’s a section for notifications.

However it’s fatally flawed for me in that it fires the alert over and over so wandering round my kitchen (which is square with about 2x2m floor space) keeps triggering as I must be slightly out of range at one point in the kitchen.

There’s minimal control over notifications - there’s a time of day option and an option for whether you’re in your home (eg only alert if you’re out).






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How do you enable this? Is it possible to do activate this notification when you're away from home?
Thanks!

Yes, you can do that.

In Home, open the config page for the sensor by clicking it and clicking details at the bottom

There’s an option in there for notifications and in that you can set it to “when I’m not home” or variants of that (when no one is home etc)
 
Curious if anyone else is having issues setting up Switches/Sensors in the Home App. I updated everything (Hue App & Accessories) and following Hue's instructions successfully set up my first Hue Switch to control my lights along with a lamp plugged into an iHome device. When I tried to set up a second Switch following the same procedure all of the Hue based setting stopped working, but the new button commands I set up in the Home App would not work either.

I tried multiple switches along with a motion sensor all without success. Even tried to unpair a switch, re-paired it in the hue app, and set it up again. No luck :(

Anyone else having this experience or have any tips? Thanks!
 
Not sure if someone else had replied yet, but if you click into the motion sensor in the Home app there’s a section for notifications.

However it’s fatally flawed for me in that it fires the alert over and over so wandering round my kitchen (which is square with about 2x2m floor space) keeps triggering as I must be slightly out of range at one point in the kitchen.

There’s minimal control over notifications - there’s a time of day option and an option for whether you’re in your home (eg only alert if you’re out).
The problem right now for the motion sensor is that there's no way to control how long the sensor remains in the "detected" state. It goes into "not detected" state in about 10 seconds without motion, so unless you're hyper-active the movements it missed will show up in the notification like that. Elgato Eve Motion mitigates this somewhat by letting you control this detection duration.
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It seems to ignore the ambient light sensitivity if using HomeKit for the trigger so ti always fires, no matter how bright it is already - I suspect they'll add support for this later. You can use the HomeKit app to create a response to the sensor only between sunset & sunrise which is nice.
I suspect this won't happen easily because the ambient light (luminosity) is a separate sensor reading reported in the HomeKit implementation. There's currently no way for the HomeKit framework to limit the notification based on other sensor's state.

What Philips has done with the recent update basically amounts to exposing the raw data from the Hue accessories straight to HomeKit. The Hue app did some intelligent control over these such as setting the motion sensor's sensitivity to light or inactivity duration, many of which HomeKit framework currently lacks, or need to have some creative workarounds. Hue app needs provide some sort of "filtering" or "assistance" to the raw data in a future update to overcome these shortcomings.
 
I suspect this won't happen easily because the ambient light (luminosity) is a separate sensor reading reported in the HomeKit implementation. There's currently no way for the HomeKit framework to limit the notification based on other sensor's state..

But I think this is something that can be easily added down the track with HomeKit improvements. For me the motion sensors work perfectly for notifications as I have a Automation which ignores them when anyone is home using iOS 11's geofencing options. I do want to know about any movement when I'm not home!
 
Hi,

Has anyone looked into how the ambient sensor works with the lights? I don’t see a way of telling the automation to not work when there is enough natural light. The Hue app had it all in one page. I don’t really want to add a separate automation turning off the light as I think the two will just battle turning the lights on and off.
 
Has anyone looked into how the ambient sensor works with the lights? I don’t see a way of telling the automation to not work when there is enough natural light. The Hue app had it all in one page. I don’t really want to add a separate automation turning off the light as I think the two will just battle turning the lights on and off.

It's not possible yet... but I wouldn't be surprised if this sort of functionality is added down the track.

What you *can* do is to make the automation only activate during certain hours (ie. daylight) in the meantime.
 
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It's not possible yet... but I wouldn't be surprised if this sort of functionality is added down the track.

What you *can* do is to make the automation only activate during certain hours (ie. daylight) in the meantime.

Ahh. I feared as much. I guess it no big deal really. Just means I’ll have to leave it set up to the Hue app. The only trouble is they don’t actively talk to each other. Each app doesn’t know if the other one has turned lights on/off. Hopefully they’ll add the twinned sensor that hue labs have as well.
 
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