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Photos of Claimed New 15-Inch MacBook Pro Logic Board Show NVIDIA GT 650M, Retained Layout

HardBall said:
Please Apple; please make the optical drive, FW, and Ethernet disappear. Vast majority of the users have not used any of these features for years. Please don't make us having to carry around these monstrosities for several more years. They have already outlived their useful life by quite some time now, and should be living on borrowed time....
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ROFL. I use Ethernet every day, FW several times a week for Time Machine backups and the Superdrive several times a month for ripping CDs (since they are cheaper and better quality than iTunes). Now you've told me these are all monstrosities, I will just have to stop.
 
steve-p said:
ROFL. I use Ethernet every day, FW several times a week for Time Machine backups and the Superdrive several times a month for ripping CDs (since they are cheaper and better quality than iTunes). Now you've told me these are all monstrosities, I will just have to stop.
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I have to agree with you Steve. Let's just all quit Apple shall we..? er no. :rolleyes:
 
outsidethebox said:
No higher resolutions at all on "Pro" machines (STILL 1280 on the 13"), no SSD+HD innovation for overall speed, no effort to shrink the bezel even a little around the screens, there are countless even minor things Apple could do to improve the MBP, but you seem content to just leave it as it is indefinitely? It's been 4-5 years now. Something needs to change.
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That's not what people here are asking for. They are asking for Apple to cut ~30% off the size and weight, without considering either what would have to go, or what could be put in its place. "Minor" changes do not count as a redesign, and happen all the time.
 
outsidethebox said:
In contrast, what is with all the people saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? What kind of company would Apple be today if it followed these same rules for the last 6-7 years?
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Best post. With no Jobs we must wonder if innovation is possible to continue. Not likely with Tim Cook give employees extra days off and keep big clunk design of MacBook pro.
 
There is an obvious answer to these leaked photos.

What if Apple wanted to test the new processor / GPU combinations ahead of finalising the actual design of the latest Macbook Pro's? Would they not simply try the chips in the current enclosure?

So, my theory is that these are early prototype boards (I know Apple prototype boards are normally red, but given that this screams out "leak me" to factory workers, maybe Apple has changed this strategy).

It would also allow Apple to openly test the new Macbook Pro internals without drawing attention to the device.

I do believe there is a good reason for Apple to have three lines of Macbooks, as they serve different markets better than 2, i.e.;
Macbooks - Good for students and lighter home users
Macbook Pros - Good for heavier home users and certain business / professional markets, especially creatives for the 17 inch.
Macbook Airs - Good for home users who like a light device and need a full notebook instead of iPads, also good for business executives that travel with only carry-on luggage.

My current Macbook Pro is three years old this week, so I'm now very interesting in what Apple will announce as a new machine will be bought within the next year!
 
Erasmus said:
Based on this thread, the majority of people seem more interested in change for change's sake than actually improving the MBP in any meaningful way.

Is strange.

Faster CPU, and GPU ~50% faster than before. No significant other info. And people still complain.

Very strange.
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I'll take the current MBP design, with the new processors and what-not. All I want is a screen resolution in a 13" Apple laptop that doesn't completely blow.

I don't want a 'retina' display, just something that isn't embarrassing for a "Pro" series of laptops. Other manufacturers do it, why not Apple?
 
based on the level of GPU Apple have put in before (i.e not great) - the 650M is a great chip.

so either Apple figure people will want to play more games at better quality, or they've beefed it up to handle the retina display..
 
HardBall said:
As I said, there are some organizations that are stuck on decades old technology and infrastructure. But it's not the rest of the IT industry's job to cater to a few organizations' obstinance, and refusal to adopt new technology. Ethernet was designed at a time when mini-computers were considered miniaturized platforms, and micro-computers (desktops) were only drawings on blueprints. 802.11n is perfectly secure and perfectly capable of getting 600 Mbit/s, and new standards are arriving (such as ac) to leave Gbit ethernet in the dust. DVD ROMs are being phased out by Blueray and streaming. Firewire drives can easily run with an adaptor to TB or USB3; there is literally no reason for any of these outdated techs to exist any longer.
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So let me get this straight. You are saying companies should abandon their cat 6 physical infrastructure which is fast and has far more throughput than any existing or near future wifi standard, just because it is theoretically possible for them to spend a load of money on a complex wireless setup involving a large number of access points across several floors in large buildings. All so that removing Ethernet from laptops will allow them to be a few mm thinner? Dream on.
 
There is on rule which I've gone by for two years now, and it has always been right:

Apple simply doesn't innovate anymore.

iOS6 will bring few not innovative options at all, while the ugly "New iPhone" redisign will look exactly like the thinner and taller iPhone 4SS you saw. Moutain Lion is exactly what you could expect, the same buggy useless update as Lion but with few more functionnalities, and the Macbook Pro update will look exactly the same with lame if not backward (for the GPU) hardware update.

In short, fanboys have ruined Apple, not Apple. If fanboys were smart enough to not take this BS, Apple would have to do better like they did before, but now that they hit the mainstream market AND fanboys are stupid rationnalizint idiots, why would they need to?
 
Rachel Faith said:
650M??

BOGUS !!

The 680M is like 800% better.

Give us an option for the love !!!!!!!!
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Apple have never had a high end GPU in their laptops. You get less then 50 minutes battery time with a 680M. Gaming is NOT Apples prime market.

+ it costs 1000 dollars more.

The funny thing is that Alienware and other gaming vendors don't offer anything over 1920x1080 screens.
 
The 650M is a great GPU, but the new AMD 7000 Series with Zero Core technologie would be great for batterie life!
 
no retainer display? looks like ill be buying a windows laptop this year :) see u next time apple
 
arnoldma said:
no retainer display? looks like ill be buying a windows laptop this year :) see u next time apple
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So what windows laptop are you going to get with a retina quality display? I'll wait.

Also changing the screen wouldn't require any drastic logic board changes, I new connector (which could look pretty much the same from the top) and your good to go.
 
Guys, a PRO laptop has to have PRO performance with all the latest stuff. Sacrificing performance on a PRO for a thinner design doesn´t make sense at all. Don´t just read every ****ing news, put your brains to work for a change.

Ivy Bridge - unrivaled perf per watt
GT650M aka. Kepler (GK107) - unrivaled perf per watt
+ new Intel onboard features (USB 3.0, etc.)

And to the guys who think AMD is a better choice than NVIDIA with the current ASICs, you flat-out don´t know what you´re talking about. Yes, NVIDIA reserved lots of GPU capacity at TSMC for GK107 and had to wait a couple of months just to have enough of them for Apple, but that chip´s horsepower at that TDP has to be seen to be believed. The Kepler stuff is impressive, to say the least. This is no rebranded Fermi, anymore.

And 100 watts TDP just for the GPU is just stupid, no one wants that in his laptop.

The new Macbook Airs should also have Ivy Bridge, but onboard graphics only (HD 4000). The possibility of a Macbook line is there, however, even if it smells a bit fishy to me.
 
1finite said:
This is gonna be the same kind of let down that the iPhone 4s was. All the hype for a big redesign, but it's actually just an incremental upgrade. So lame...
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What hype? There's been a lot of rumours and some very excited people, but no 'hype' as such from Apple.
 
iChrist said:
Best post. With no Jobs we must wonder if innovation is possible to continue. Not likely with Tim Cook give employees extra days off and keep big clunk design of MacBook pro.
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.. following that same thread then... must we wonder that Sir Jonny Ive IS still in fact employed by Apple and is doing his job......?? :rolleyes:
 
After selling my 13inch macbook with the current design for a bigger screen, i won't have the heart to buy into the same design again i will regretfully have to live another year using my iPad as a laptop.

if apple don't wow us with any mac changes it will not only hurt us but also the the company as well with its lingering Mac pro and iMac lines, mac customers are eagerly looking for something new.
 
evalex said:
NVIDIA gpus mean Adobe CS users can get MPE (Mercury Playback Engine- a fancy hardware acceleration that only works with NVIDIA cards) capability on their macs without spending a fortune! It's as if Apple were listening to their pro users.
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The current MacBook Pro 15'' GPUs are also compatible with MPE in CS6, using OPEN CL.
 
iSunrise said:
Guys, a PRO laptop has to have PRO performance with all the latest stuff. Sacrificing performance on a PRO for a thinner design doesn´t make sense at all. Don´t just read every ****ing news, put your brains to work for a change.
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Indeed. If you really want and need a thinner design, buy a MacBook Air. If not, shut up whining.
 
miniroll32 said:
Face it; this is WWDC, not Macworld. I can't understand why everyone expected Apple to actually announce new hardware on stage!

Stores will be down and up in the next 24-hours with a quiet refresh ;)
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For the last time...Apple did release new Hardware on WWDC in the past. Please watch the Keynotes.
It doesn't matter if this Conference is just for the developers.
Hardware and Software are both equivalently important to developers.
 
coolguy$$$ said:
I think still there is a possibility for a redesign. Rumours said the new design will have the same outer design but in a thinner form factor (not a wedge shaped design like Air). If they remove the optiocal drive, ethernet, and firewire there is still a possibility to get the same MACBOOK pro unibody design in a thinner formfactor.

Also in such a case, logic board screw positions will remain the same.

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I think you missed the other photos of this supposed leak from 9to5. This would absolutely require a logic board redesign.

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the8thark said:
This is proof the Macbook Pro won't be talked about in the WWDC keynote. Anything that is not a major re-design will just get a brief mention elsewhere or just a silent update on the website.
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The Unibody MacBook Pro's got their first spec bump at WWDC 2009. http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/08/phil-schiller-keynote-live-from-wwdc-2009/
 
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