Photos of Claimed New 15-Inch MacBook Pro Logic Board Show NVIDIA GT 650M, Retained Layout
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vpro
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How about?
Just a thought:
There doesn't look to be very much 'competition' out there in terms of design and ease of use with powerful machines as the pros line of Macs. Macs are so specialized machines that APPLE can really take its time with drastic 'redesigns' etc because no other computers out there present any threat to image.
I went for the MBP 17" because of its look first and then realized I can do SO MUCH MORE than I did on my HP 1998 Pavilion (HAHAHAHAAA) but not that much more really, just more fancy and a little quicker here and there but that old HP machine still does a ton of great things for my music career (still).
Yes, it is true, it takes me that long to finally catch onto a good thing. If it wasn't the fact that I really need to refresh my MBP badly because it has developed a curious thing with which the fan is on as soon as I turn on the computer until I turn it off (for 2 years with no solutions in sight), it makes it difficult to record my albums in my apartment studio with the whooshing sound (sigh).
If I am unimpressed with the line up and announcements today I will hold tight 4 more years if I have to. This 2007, 2008 MBP 17" is still amazing and feels faster than its ever been, I haven't updated anything on it AT ALL since I first got it, the only problem has been the fan constantly on issue.
I only own one Apple product and I'm gonna keep it that way.
Just a thought:
There doesn't look to be very much 'competition' out there in terms of design and ease of use with powerful machines as the pros line of Macs. Macs are so specialized machines that APPLE can really take its time with drastic 'redesigns' etc because no other computers out there present any threat to image.
I went for the MBP 17" because of its look first and then realized I can do SO MUCH MORE than I did on my HP 1998 Pavilion (HAHAHAHAAA) but not that much more really, just more fancy and a little quicker here and there but that old HP machine still does a ton of great things for my music career (still).
Yes, it is true, it takes me that long to finally catch onto a good thing. If it wasn't the fact that I really need to refresh my MBP badly because it has developed a curious thing with which the fan is on as soon as I turn on the computer until I turn it off (for 2 years with no solutions in sight), it makes it difficult to record my albums in my apartment studio with the whooshing sound (sigh).
If I am unimpressed with the line up and announcements today I will hold tight 4 more years if I have to. This 2007, 2008 MBP 17" is still amazing and feels faster than its ever been, I haven't updated anything on it AT ALL since I first got it, the only problem has been the fan constantly on issue.
I only own one Apple product and I'm gonna keep it that way.
Bako-MacAddict
macrumors 68020
One takeaway from this discussion is that there's definitely room for a range of laptops betweent the Air and the Pro. I would love a Macbook that's slightly thinner with no optical drive, ethernet and FW, but with a decent GPU and replaceable RAM and hard disk.
The Pros can keep the current Pro
The Pros can keep the current Pro
AudioFileZ
macrumors newbie
Looking For Concrete Info...Strangely Absent.
Well, it won't be long...Less than 12 hours now, but I must say real concrete info on the new MacBook Pro has been difficult, at best, to nail down.
Saying it will be the same profile and thinner is akin to saying your next Hershey bar will be brown and rectangular. All laptops of either the same or higher power get thinner, if not monthly certainly yearly. Of course it will be thinner if only by a small margin. The real question isn't if it will retain the same profile, as that is almost a certainly with The Air being a wedge (why have a Pro Air?), but what will the composition of the chassis be? Will it remain machined aluminum, so-called "liquid metal", or something unknown in laptop manufacture?
We know Apple will use new Intel Ivy Bridge chipset technology and we know that Apple won't settle on imbedded video, these rumors have been fairly well substantiated. What we want to know is exactly how the display itself will be up-graded? I'm guessing by this site, as well as the general around-the-web rumor-mill, that a very refined super LCD back-lit display will be used. Will the new display achieve such pixel density as to be coined Retina is unknown, yet seems likely even if the technology isn't the same as the latest iPad.
As a Dell XPS 15Z user who only selected it due to the excellent 1080p screen,I expect this to be the machine that pushes me to make the jump to a Mac. I believe the compelling Ivy Bridge technolgy, a 1080p beyond screen - possessing quite possibly a new high in pixel-density, combined with the absolute thinnest profile possible (while retaining Apple's famous rock-solid chassis sturdiness) will be exactly what Apple delivers. This alone should push sales into overdrive as the last build is now, basically, two years old retaining physical and other traits from way over that period. Add a new OS and you have the nex-gen MacBook Pro. It will be a statement product in technology and build-quality and I am ready!
Well, it won't be long...Less than 12 hours now, but I must say real concrete info on the new MacBook Pro has been difficult, at best, to nail down.
Saying it will be the same profile and thinner is akin to saying your next Hershey bar will be brown and rectangular. All laptops of either the same or higher power get thinner, if not monthly certainly yearly. Of course it will be thinner if only by a small margin. The real question isn't if it will retain the same profile, as that is almost a certainly with The Air being a wedge (why have a Pro Air?), but what will the composition of the chassis be? Will it remain machined aluminum, so-called "liquid metal", or something unknown in laptop manufacture?
We know Apple will use new Intel Ivy Bridge chipset technology and we know that Apple won't settle on imbedded video, these rumors have been fairly well substantiated. What we want to know is exactly how the display itself will be up-graded? I'm guessing by this site, as well as the general around-the-web rumor-mill, that a very refined super LCD back-lit display will be used. Will the new display achieve such pixel density as to be coined Retina is unknown, yet seems likely even if the technology isn't the same as the latest iPad.
As a Dell XPS 15Z user who only selected it due to the excellent 1080p screen,I expect this to be the machine that pushes me to make the jump to a Mac. I believe the compelling Ivy Bridge technolgy, a 1080p beyond screen - possessing quite possibly a new high in pixel-density, combined with the absolute thinnest profile possible (while retaining Apple's famous rock-solid chassis sturdiness) will be exactly what Apple delivers. This alone should push sales into overdrive as the last build is now, basically, two years old retaining physical and other traits from way over that period. Add a new OS and you have the nex-gen MacBook Pro. It will be a statement product in technology and build-quality and I am ready!
Ironduke
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There is no reason for the Pro to Change Design, the Pro is a work horse which means it needs a Power CPU, good GFX, Large Hard Drive, and it still needs the DVD drive for those who need to export Large Amounts of data.
Apple Mince enough with the Pro Models you can see they already compromise performance for Style as they under clock their GPU's.
They can't go further towards style as it will make the word Pro look silly
Apple Mince enough with the Pro Models you can see they already compromise performance for Style as they under clock their GPU's.
They can't go further towards style as it will make the word Pro look silly
OliverOSX93
macrumors regular
Change for the sake of change is the mentality of a spoiled child, please stop displaying it. (it's very unbecoming)
If the design still works and apple can't currently improve on it while providing a happy medium they won't change it. They are probably testing new designs but that doesn't mean they will use them.
MRU
macrumors Penryn
Doubtful over Hi-Dpi
I have activated the hi-dpi option on my Mac for a while, and in doing so have thought for a good while whilst these rumours circulated that whilst a nice fanciful idea, the OS and applications are just not ready for it.
The majority of assets are still low res, and 99.5% of third party applications are likewise.
When you see a retina / hi-dpi asset sat next to a low one, it is really jarring and does not look great or indeed very professional.
Unless Mountain Lion is FULLY hi-dpi ready which in its current form is still not the case, the 'readiness' for Hi-Dpi displays is simply 'not now' in regards to the timing.
Still I wait for the official announcement to see if they surprise me, tempt me or dumbfound me.
I have activated the hi-dpi option on my Mac for a while, and in doing so have thought for a good while whilst these rumours circulated that whilst a nice fanciful idea, the OS and applications are just not ready for it.
The majority of assets are still low res, and 99.5% of third party applications are likewise.
When you see a retina / hi-dpi asset sat next to a low one, it is really jarring and does not look great or indeed very professional.
Unless Mountain Lion is FULLY hi-dpi ready which in its current form is still not the case, the 'readiness' for Hi-Dpi displays is simply 'not now' in regards to the timing.
Still I wait for the official announcement to see if they surprise me, tempt me or dumbfound me.
Have you tried opening it up and blowing the dust out of it!! Did this with a friends of mine and it solved his 'fan always on' problem! These things can get full of dust which acts as a very good insulator and making the temperature sore even with no use on the processor resulting the fans staying on!!
Y'know, people seem pretty satisfied with, for example, pork chops, or broccoli, and the basic design there hasn't changed in my lifetime, that I can recall....
The 4s was not a letdown in any way. Before the announcement some joker spread a rumor that a radically different iPhone 5 was going to be announced, but nobody with a clue believed it:
o The iPhone 4 didn't really lack
o The iPhone 3G was followed by the 3GS
o Had Apple blown their wad jamming everything into the iPhone 4 successor, what would that leave them for this year?
You do understand the concept of a rumor right?
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How can something "be" "fail"? I suggest getting your money back from your ESL instructor.
Erasmus
macrumors 68030
Based on this thread, the majority of people seem more interested in change for change's sake than actually improving the MBP in any meaningful way.
Is strange.
Faster CPU, and GPU ~50% faster than before. No significant other info. And people still complain.
Very strange.
Is strange.
Faster CPU, and GPU ~50% faster than before. No significant other info. And people still complain.
Very strange.
star-affinity
macrumors 68020
Optical drive taking space
While I'm sure there are some who use the optical drive often (still think most don't nowadays) it sure takes up a ridiculous amount of space inside, space that I think could be used for much better things. It's also possible to use an external Superdrive, so I would definitely like to see a MacBook (Pro) without an optical drive.
I guess it's easier to do the logic board re-design with all that extra space. Don't necessarily think the design of the case has to be thinker (just for the sake of it).
While I'm sure there are some who use the optical drive often (still think most don't nowadays) it sure takes up a ridiculous amount of space inside, space that I think could be used for much better things. It's also possible to use an external Superdrive, so I would definitely like to see a MacBook (Pro) without an optical drive.
I guess it's easier to do the logic board re-design with all that extra space. Don't necessarily think the design of the case has to be thinker (just for the sake of it).
Thanks for this, read it though but all it basically says is 'it's better, it's better, it's better, apps are sharper, photos's are sharper everything's sharper, it's better'!!!!!! Doesn't convince me I need it - like I need USB3, faster and cooler CPU and GPUs.
needfx
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I have activated the hi-dpi option on my Mac for a while, and in doing so have thought for a good while whilst these rumours circulated that whilst a nice fanciful idea, the OS and applications are just not ready for it.
The majority of assets are still low res, and 99.5% of third party applications are likewise.
When you see a retina / hi-dpi asset sat next to a low one, it is really jarring and does not look great or indeed very professional.
Unless Mountain Lion is FULLY hi-dpi ready which in its current form is still not the case, the 'readiness' for Hi-Dpi displays is simply 'not now' in regards to the timing.
Still I wait for the official announcement to see if they surprise me, tempt me or dumbfound me.
I concur without any tech reasoning from my part, but isn't apple an entity pulling the rest of the tech world forward?
HOW THE HECK ARE THESE CHINESE DUDES GETTING ALL THE PARTS IN ADVANCE?!?!?!?!
Hint: MBP's aren't made in Lesotho.
Apple Knowledge Navigator
macrumors 601
Face it; this is WWDC, not Macworld. I can't understand why everyone expected Apple to actually announce new hardware on stage!
Stores will be down and up in the next 24-hours with a quiet refresh
Stores will be down and up in the next 24-hours with a quiet refresh
iChrist
macrumors 65816
Wow sir. If cant tell difference between iPhone 3 and iPhone 4 screen something is wrong. Need to see doctor or something of that nature. How is possible to not tell??? Is so crazy.
Why would Apple remove the SD slot that it can find room for in the MBA?
I am curious to see whether Apple is going to dump the ethernet, in spite of business users, in favour of updating the WiFi with 80.211ac chips from Broadcom.
Neodym
macrumors 68030
Man - that would really annoy a lot of people seeing room for an xMac between an iMac and a Mac Pro, with basically the same reasoning (decent/replaceable GPU/Ram/HDD for "Prosumers"). Now if Apple would close that hole in their mobile portfolio, but not on the desktop line...One takeaway from this discussion is that there's definitely room for a range of laptops betweent the Air and the Pro. I would love a Macbook that's slightly thinner with no optical drive, ethernet and FW, but with a decent GPU and replaceable RAM and hard disk.
The Pros can keep the current Pro
C
champ01
Guest
Which doesn't necessarily mean Steve Jobs worked on these designs.
Not the iPhone, not the Mac's or anything else for that matter.
Steve jobs last years most have been extremely hard.
Do you really think Steve worked till the day he died?
He was a human not a freaking robot that just stopped working.
If Apple says that new products over the years are from Steve Jobs you'll know it's just marketing right?
iChrist
macrumors 65816
HOW THE HECK ARE THESE CHINESE DUDES GETTING ALL THE PARTS IN ADVANCE?!?!?!?!
Hint: Is not made with poor workmanship is US, is made by Chinese precision. So parts made in china is how chinamen see it first.
Wow.
outsidethebox
macrumors member
I am one of these "people" hoping for even incremental design changes. In contrast, what is with all the people saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? What kind of company would Apple be today if it followed these same rules for the last 6-7 years?
Where is the innovation-pushing efforts at all on any of the Macs (aside from "wedge-shape on the Air) in the last few years?
No higher resolutions at all on "Pro" machines (STILL 1280 on the 13"), no SSD+HD innovation for overall speed, no effort to shrink the bezel even a little around the screens, there are countless even minor things Apple could do to improve the MBP, but you seem content to just leave it as it is indefinitely? It's been 4-5 years now. Something needs to change.
mirko.meschini
macrumors regular
Now i think Kuo's claim goes to be true. Legacy MacBookPro for people that needs superdrive, fw800, ethernet etc... And a new notebook with all modern stuff: thinner, tb+usb3, no-odd, ssd+hdd, retina. Now 15", in future 13 and 15.
It makes much sense for me.
It makes much sense for me.