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Serial number and all?

It looks to me like that has enough identifying numbers on it to track down exactly where the leak is from.
 
Wall Street says that the Kindle Fire will kill the iPad Mini because the Kindle Fire HD is only $199 and Apple will be in big trouble for trying to sell a 7" tablet for $299 that's only worth $175 in parts. I'm only saying that Wall Street believes consumers are only going to be interested in buying really cheap tablets and Apple won't be able to get away with cheating consumers any more. :p

Everyone on Wall Street says that?
 
All but confirmed makes it sound like its.. all but confirmed??

Like "all but Pregnant" or "all but convicted criminal" or "all but elected"

"all but" means "not" because of course a confirmed rumor is not a rumor at all.

You don't need to believe everthing you read at "MacAllButConfurmedRumors.com"
 
Does anybody else think that the name "iPad Mini" is a bad name? Can't they think of something more creative?

The iPad mini fits with the iPod mini and the Mac mini. Yes, lower-case "m" in "mini". I guess that's the creativity there. Oh well, it's better than calling it the "iPad 7" or "iPad Book", which would not fit Apple at all.
 
Wall Street says that the Kindle Fire will kill the iPad Mini because the Kindle Fire HD is only $199 and Apple will be in big trouble for trying to sell a 7" tablet for $299 that's only worth $175 in parts. I'm only saying that Wall Street believes consumers are only going to be interested in buying really cheap tablets and Apple won't be able to get away with cheating consumers any more. :p

The only cheating was you wasting 30 seconds of my time reading this.
 
All but confirmed makes it sound like its.. all but confirmed??

Yes making it sound like it will happen but it's just not confirmed yet.
We don't know if it will happen or not. It's more like "we are just taking an educated guess and it's not confirmed."
 
This seems to rule out retina. Kind of a downer considering every new Apple product includes a retina display now. What ever happened to Apple constantly pushing the technological envelope? Now they are just putting 1.5 year old hardware in a smaller device.
 
I know for a fact that the device has been put on hold due to production issues. Oct 23rd not gonna happen.
 
Dont' dismiss the Kindle Fire HD so quickly

I think the rumored $100-150 price difference between the ipad mini and the Kindle Fire HD is a big hurdle for Apple.

I've been playing with the Fire for about 6 weeks now and yea its no iPad but as a media consumption device it is pretty good. Great at books. Great at Video (the speakers are fantastic). Good at games. For $199 its good.

One thing I've learned is that the 7 inch form factor is an odd size to do work on--to big to thumb type, to small to easily peck type (like the full size iPad).

It is really a media consumption device.

The Apple app ecosystem is a lot better but some key games are already on the Kindle and I don't see productivity apps mattering much.

Amazon Prime is a very good deal. Kindle bookstore is still better than Apple's

I guess the short answer is my take is that the value proposition for the Kindle Fire is very good. It does a lot for the price. Bigger screen and cheaper than the Touch. Cheaper than the mini. Lots of parents and budget conscious types will be tempted.

I think Apple has pushed itself into a corner with the high price of the Touch. The tablet market is going to become more price sensitive over the next couple of years. The Kindle is more strongly positioned than ever to take scoop those buyers up.
 
I think the rumored $100-150 price difference between the ipad mini and the Kindle Fire HD is a big hurdle for Apple.

I've been playing with the Fire for about 6 weeks now and yea its no iPad but as a media consumption device it is pretty good. Great at books. Great at Video (the speakers are fantastic). Good at games. For $199 its good.

One thing I've learned is that the 7 inch form factor is an odd size to do work on--to big to thumb type, to small to easily peck type (like the full size iPad).

It is really a media consumption device.

The Apple app ecosystem is a lot better but some key games are already on the Kindle and I don't see productivity apps mattering much.

Amazon Prime is a very good deal. Kindle bookstore is still better than Apple's

I guess the short answer is my take is that the value proposition for the Kindle Fire is very good. It does a lot for the price. Bigger screen and cheaper than the Touch. Cheaper than the mini. Lots of parents and budget conscious types will be tempted.

I think Apple has pushed itself into a corner with the high price of the Touch. The tablet market is going to become more price sensitive over the next couple of years. The Kindle is more strongly positioned than ever to take scoop those buyers up.

maybe they made the touch 299 because is not a big seller anymore but they still want to have it out there as an option. so the people who really really want one need to pay up

but an ipad mini everybody wants one , so the price needs to be low or reasonable like the 9" ipad at $500

what you think ?
 
The iMac/Mac Pro/Mac mini killer.

Implying they were alive to begin with...

Will this gain me brownie points with the desktop crew? B)

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One thing I've learned is that the 7 inch form factor is an odd size to do work on--to big to thumb type, to small to easily peck type (like the full size iPad).

I think if Apple were to take this 7-inch size seriously, they'd design a third iteration of iOS. I mean, the iPhone keyboard and iPad keyboards are very different from each other, and are ergonomic enough for their forms. Tt would seem very very very lazy of Apple to just shrink down or enlarge a pre-existing UI.

If they do it right, they'll figure out the most ergonomic way of using the 7 inches of space, and I really doubt they'd take the easy way out. Well, I'd really hope they don't, at least.
 
Sorry i don't believe its going to happen at all i just think its people just making random rumours up
 
I think the rumored $100-150 price difference between the ipad mini and the Kindle Fire HD is a big hurdle for Apple.

I've been playing with the Fire for about 6 weeks now and yea its no iPad but as a media consumption device it is pretty good. Great at books. Great at Video (the speakers are fantastic). Good at games. For $199 its good.

One thing I've learned is that the 7 inch form factor is an odd size to do work on--to big to thumb type, to small to easily peck type (like the full size iPad).

It is really a media consumption device.

The Apple app ecosystem is a lot better but some key games are already on the Kindle and I don't see productivity apps mattering much.

Amazon Prime is a very good deal. Kindle bookstore is still better than Apple's

I guess the short answer is my take is that the value proposition for the Kindle Fire is very good. It does a lot for the price. Bigger screen and cheaper than the Touch. Cheaper than the mini. Lots of parents and budget conscious types will be tempted.

I think Apple has pushed itself into a corner with the high price of the Touch. The tablet market is going to become more price sensitive over the next couple of years. The Kindle is more strongly positioned than ever to take scoop those buyers up.

A good and balanced post which fairly sums up the value proposition.

I hope that they sort out the speakers on the ipad because that is a significant block to its use as a multimedia consumption device.

For books, amazon is the go to book store for lots of reasons. Promotions like free books and the cross-syncing to audible are compelling.

I think apple will price at $299 (£249 UK) but will struggle against the KF HD (for which the first batch in the UK is already sold out).
 
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