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Ridiculous. They've totally missed the concept of "Smart Watch". Their execs' heads must not be getting much sunshine.

No, they haven't missed the concept of smart watch at all. They have realised that not everyone wants to replace their expensive mechanical timepiece with yet another screen, but many do want notifications without pulling the phone out of their pocket. This is not competing with smart watches at all.

The idea is spot on and will have its market for sure.

This first execution is, of course, utter rubbish.
 
Please link me to a few articles by journalists that show pictures of yet-to-be released Apple products that look comparably bad (as they'll look in the "real world"). iWatch is perfect since it's also not out yet.

One can sneeze on their iDevice or thoroughly rain dandruff on an iDevice screen to approximate that third picture but I've never seen such a shot like that for an unreleased Apple product. Please point me to a similarly dirty shot of iWatch in some journalist's articles.

Why does it matter if the product has yet to be released? What does that have to do with anything? And if you look at any touchscreen device with a dark screen in bright light, it will look like the watch band's screen.

I really don't know why it matters so much. It's not like anybody is intentionally making it look worse. People aren't saying they dislike the looks because of a couple smudges and bits of dust.
 
My 50 year old artist sister and 82 year old artist mother both think it is sexy. I think it is handsome. All 3 of us are looking forward to each getting one.


You think I'm wrong but I'm not, because I also said "some people will buy it because it is apple". That includes you my snob-they-are-artists friend and your relatives.

Do not fool yourself. The design is a POS which could have been done by any cheap chinese brand. I mean, I know we are 6B people on this planet, and it has to be someone always for everything. There is not one single post outside apple forums, watch forums fe, loving this watch.

And don't post some review made by an apple fan site or reporter. I challenge you to find people without economic interests praising the apple watch outside an apple forum.

It's as vulgar and empty as the galaxy gear, pebble and all that crap. They all look like nerd toys.

The main selling factor here is as simple as: APPLE. Some people will buy it because of its apps, others because of trend, and others because they are stupid and think it's a status symbol, go figure, a watch, made by an electronics company, a status symbol.
 
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It's like the iPhone

Traditional watchmakers aren't at all threatened by the new watch kid on the block. Who would want that iWatch? Maybe 1%.

Maybe...

History repeating... want to bet next year they will all have digital crowns? I'm surprised Samsung hasn't released one already. They must be due for a Galaxy G12 watch iteration by now. Surely one will sell in numbers sometime soon. Rather than be on clearance prices at the local office supplies shop. (Can't work out how come there are so many "refab" units available if they haven't sold many to start with. Do they open the box and then sell cheaper to clear the decks?)
 
It's as vulgar and empty as the galaxy gear, pebble and all that crap. They all look like nerd toys.

.... in your personal opinion.

You're not stating actual, factual facts. You're stating your personal opinion (as if it was fact). Your personal dislike.

And it's no more authoritative, has no more "seniority" or credence than the fact that I love the look of it. I think it's awesome and I can't wait.

You don't like it? Fine. Screw off. But don't post your personal taste as universal truths.
 
Its only 9mm thick. Not much thicker than the standard Rolex clasp.

What is a joke is the Apple/Google/Samsung watch.

Why are they a joke? They're not meant to attract the $5000+ luxury watch crowd. They're meant to attract the crowd that used to wear $20 casio / citizen watches in the 90s. Perhaps it might appeal to some mid-range watch people. Not the Rolex crowd.

Personally I was one of those $20 Casio wearers (Illuminator FTW :) ) but it was all about functionality. As soon as I started carrying a phone in my pocket the scarce amount of times I needed to see the time didn't outweigh the hassle of wearing something on my wrist.

Now with many notifications buzzing in my pocket every day I'm glad I have my pebble to dismiss the nonsense ones without a second thought. I can definitely see a use case for smartwatches, they're just not the same as a piece of jewellery, nor are they meant to be.
 
.... in your personal opinion.

You're not stating actual, factual facts. You're stating your personal opinion (as if it was fact). Your personal dislike.

And it's no more authoritative, has no more "seniority" or credence than the fact that I love the look of it. I think it's awesome and I can't wait.

You don't like it? Fine. Screw off. But don't post your personal taste as universal truths.

Of course it's my opinion, I'm writing it, I can't write on your behalf.

BUT there is a thing called cultural heritage that establishes protocols and universal aesthetic norms accepted by social contract.

Considering all of this, wearing an A Lange mechanical tourbillon is stylish (even for those of them who don't know what a mechanical tourbillon is, the thing affects them too), and wearing a wrist computer that looks like a computer is nerd. I'm sorry but I'm saying what every educated adult knows or should know.

You can wear too slim jeans, an apple watch, a indie tshirt and some trainers and think you look good but the fact is you look like a clown, albeit maybe you look trendy, that's a different thing. Hey, you can be the happiest man on earth even when you look like a clown, that's another story.
 
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So, you simply take the arrogant dismissive tack, then, with lashings of implication, a pinch of pity, and word it as if it was fact. Everybody who wears it is this, and doesn't understand that. But not you.

Weak.

Apple Watch isn't for you because you would never accept it, regardless of how it looked, what it did or how it worked. Your veiled put-downs of people who are interested in the smart watch segment - something you're just not even a part of, or interested in being involved in - is like my grandmother criticising my iPhone. Why would I ever listen to her, when it's not a world she's even involved in? Her opinion of one model or another means nothing when she disapproves of the whole concept. Which is why I ignore every word she says on the subject.
 
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So, you simply take the dismissive tack, then, with lashings of implication, and word it as if it was fact. Everybody who wears it is this, and doesn't understand that. But not you.

Weak.

I'm honestly sorry because I can't develop a more compelling prose, English is not even my second language. But anyway I'm quite sure that the concepts "Western cultural heritage", "protocol", "elegance", "wrist-computer-as-a-watch" don't fit together in any language.

The problem with the Apple watch is that it looks like a computer, and wearing a computer is nerd, there is not other way to put this.
 
I have always considered Mont Blanc, as good yet overpriced status pens. Really had no idea they made watches until they surfaced here on the rumor mill. I guess it's no surprise since watches are more about status than function these days. Having said all that this accessories to the watch does not seem to add much in terms of status or style. Maybe they are truly going after function.
 
I have always considered Mont Blanc, as good yet overpriced status pens. Really had no idea they made watches until they surfaced here on the rumor mill. I guess it's no surprise since watches are more about status than function these days. Having said all that this accessories to the watch does not seem to add much in terms of status or style. Maybe they are truly going after function.

The purpose of this device I think is to cover the market of people who, like me, won't wear a wrist computer and have expensive watches (since if it's cheap the strap would be more expensive than the watch which is quite absurd). If the apple watch's objective market is those with iphones, there are a lot of people with iphones who also have nice watches and won't be wearing the apple's watch instead of them. I mean, it would be bizarre to see the owner of a Patek, A Lange... IWC, Panerai... wearing the apple watch. But I think the best solution in this case would be a strap for wearing on the other wrist, galaxy fit style.

This, as I said and I think we all agree, is an ugly and obsolete looking thing (the montblanc product)
 
I'm honestly sorry because I can't develop a more compelling prose, English is not even my second language. But anyway I'm quite sure that the concepts "Western cultural heritage", "protocol", "elegance", "wrist-computer-as-a-watch" don't fit together in any language.

The problem with the Apple watch is that it looks like a computer, and wearing a computer is nerd, there is not other way to put this.

Still failing to know the difference between your singular opinion ("wearing a computer is nerd", presumably like carrying a computer is - or was - also nerd, and technology is only for nerds... yet here you are) and fact, cranky grandfather.
 
Having all that bulk at the bottom on the band is a bit crazy. But I don't get what's wrong with a bulky watch up top. I used to always wear a G-Shock and there are beefier watches than that around. Not everyone wants a piece of jewelry like the Apple Watch that isn't even water proof. I'd still rather go with that new Garmin myself. It's just the price that kills me. It's like $500. Ouch!

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I believe that sentiment is identical to the one RIM, and other phone makers, held when iPhone was released. Look where they are now, RIM is basically left for dead and all the others are struggling and fighting each other to be a distant second. Just saying.

I think the real worry for these luxury watch makers is not that Apple will take their current market, but rather overtime change the expectation for what a time piece should be capable of. Right now wearing a expensive watch is a status symbol, it more less says I earn over six figures and my successes have allowed me to make a purchase of questionable value. After Apple changes the perception, a person wearing one of these watches will be viewed the same way a person sporting an AOL email is viewed (out of touch, questionable intelligence, etc).

Apple seems to be pricing these so buyers of the luxury models will still be be able to make a status statement while also still appearing competent. The entry level pricing reinforces this desire, people who only care about function or who are price sensitive will by the lower tier thus serving as class/status differentiators. In fact the more low end ones they sell the more clear the distinction becomes.

The existing manufacturers really stand no chance of ever rivaling or replicating the technology/ecosystem Apple has. This advantage will only compound with future iterations.

Yes, but RIM and Apple were existing players in a relatively new tech-driven, smartphone market. Traditionally, the timepiece market ($500 and up) has been long established. It'll be insterestig to see how successfull Apple can penterate a market they've previously never entered. In reality, it's a new space for the company. I'm sure their bisness analysis tells them that there is room for profit growth here and I wish Apple success. To me at least, if I'm spending $350-$500 on a watch, this timepiece better last me at least 10 years. (I seriously doubt the 1st gen Apple Watch will last more than 3 years before becoming obsoleted by it's own tecnhical limitations.) Most luxury timepieces are timeless. You can't say that about a piece of tech.
 
Still failing to know the difference between your singular opinion ("wearing a computer is nerd", presumably like carrying a computer is - or was - also nerd) and fact, cranky grandfather.

The primary function of the smartphone is to communicate worldwide while on the go, there is no logical substitute.

The laptop's primary function is to be a full powered computer you can carry.

The smartwatch primary function is to be a watch, as its name says, because it does nothing the smartphone it needs can't do, only watches already exist and their main function are aesthetics (at least expensive watches), at which are much better.

A smartwatch is as nerd as using a small laptop as a photo frame for your living room, just because this can be done and because it has electronic parts and lights, but worse because you would also need to buy a full size computer in order to make it work. What do you think, is that nerd? I would say so.
 
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The apple watch should have been a technological hublot big bang kind of thing

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That's what JC Biever was talking about, its actual design is boring and innocuous. Nobody, NOBODY will say "oh look at the apple watch its design is so desirable..." No, that won't happen. It could be interesting, or useful, or... but beautiful? incredibly attractive? Not at all.

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with a bulky watch. I used to love things like this. I just haven't worn a watch in like 15 years.
 
I'm not convinced that watch as a fashion jewelry will stay longer in the market. I believe that watch companies who don't want to evolve will eventually die. Car is a different story and car manufacturers now integrating technology in those newer models. Last time I'm at the mall and this store that only sells old fashion watches make me worry about their business. Watch maker like Montblanc are just playing stuborn. They are very confident that smartwatch won't be going hurt their sells. The thing is next generation millionaires are younger. They don't care about those things anymore. They are more into technology and not into old fashion jewelry. Their multi million dollar houses will be equipped technology that communicates with their phone and wrist. There will be still some old fashion millionaires but they won't last longer.
 
I'm not convinced that watch as a fashion jewelry will stay longer in the market. I believe that watch companies who don't want to evolve will eventually die. Car is a different story and car manufacturers now integrating technology in those newer models. Last time I'm at the mall and this store that only sells old fashion watches make me worry about their business. Watch maker like Montblanc are just playing stuborn. They are very confident that smartwatch won't be going hurt their sells. The thing is next generation millionaires are younger. They don't care about those things anymore. They are more into technology and not into old fashion jewelry. Their multi million dollar houses will be equipped technology that communicates with their phone and wrist. There will be still some old fashion millionaires but they won't last longer.


Brands which sell at malls are not in the jewelry, luxury, status symbol business... Next generation millionaires care more or less the same than the old generation ones. Cars, jets, yatches, watches, clothes, parties, entertainment, holidays... Go to watch-anish's tumblr and see. I see it everyday and I'm 27, you're talking blindly I'm afraid. Zuckerberg is not the stereotype of young rich man, don't make the mistake of believing that, is quite the opposite,
 
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The strap looks unbelievably bad, can't image any watch pursuit would spend big money on a watch and add this atrocity of band on it

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Let me understand. I have to buy an iWatch, then buy an iPhone, to be able to use the iWatch?


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