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Yes, it makes perfect sense to assume that you are smarter or more observant than the average iPad purchaser and therefore see defects that they are too clueless to notice. It's assertions like that that makes all of your complaints suspect. You can't just leave it at your own personal experiences. You have to extrapolate that somehow you are far more discriminating than all of the other iPad owners who are happy with their iPads. It also only emphasizes the appearance that you have an agenda rather than just a beef due to your own misfortune.

And correct your spelling? What ARE you talking about?

Yes my whole agenda is to try and bring down the apple empire so I can promote my new gadget I am about to release . :rolleyes:

Look I absolutely love the new iPad but there is clearly an issue, but here I am wasting my time replying to someone who doesn't have a screen issue. You think we (screen issue whine babies )are setting up a conspiracy/agenda , think what you like . I wish I didn't like apple as much as I do so maybe I could set up a conspiracy/agenda so I could satisfy you:rolleyes:

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The vast, vast majority of consumer electronics purchasers will never complain about anything other than the most blatant of screen issues. They'll take something back if it is cracked or not working and that is about it.

Most people don't know what a dead pixel is and won't notice one when they see it. They don't notice even the most extreme light leakage. They certainly don't notice uneven backlighting and splotchy color tints.

I've seen this again and again, long before there was an iPad to scrutinize. Laptop monitors, cell phone screens, TV sets. I now have 3 friends and family with a new iPad. They love their iPad and see nothing wrong with it. All three have *absolutely abysmal* screens.

Sorry, but there really are people who are more able to see screen defects, and there really are more discriminating customers. For the most part, the consumer electronics market is able to satisfy these people. The new iPad is a rare exception, because there is something truly wrong with a great number of these screens.

Many of us have seen thousands of LCD screens on thousands of devices. It is rare that something so truly terrible immediately jumps out at us, as it has with the new iPad. We know what the inherent issues of LCD are - there is no such thing as a perfect screen. That's not what we're talking about here. That's not what we're seeing here. That's not what you're pretending NOT to see in the many photographs demonstrating the problems.

Agreed:)
 
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My issue isn't whether or not there are screen issues, as I've acknowledged on these boards that I believe there are. My problem is with those of you that incessantly hammer it home on every single thread with seemingly no clue how much of a nuisance you're making yourself. The only thing that has destroyed any of the credibility that you deserve is yourself, by wanting to cram your point down other people's throats.

I know that there are some people who are more discriminating, and there are also those that think the tiniest, tiniest flaw constitutes an absolutely horrendous product. Because of the way you complainers behave around here, I have trouble seeing you as anything other than people who are uber-anal (dare I say OCD?) and want to turn everyone else into like-minded souls. There is no one except perhaps a few truly blind, unwitting souls out there with atrocious screens, while most actually have perfectly fine (if not "perfect") screens. And yet you would assert that most are atrocious and that their owners are just too stupid or clueless to know it. There is absolutely no rational way you can come to that conclusion. That is the ultimate in self-centered crap.

None of us are "wrong," per se, in our opinions, but you can't assert that the vast majority of people are too stupid to see real flaws and that you happen to be one of the lucky few who are smart enough to see them. That in itself destroys the credibility of any valid thoughts you may have.

I know it seems like I'm being belligerent, but I'm trying to make a truly rational point. But you who continuously post your complaints over and over again are coming off as anything but rational. Stick to your own experiences and stop extrapolating what everyone else's experiences must be despite what they say, and I'd have no problem with you.
 
I know that there are some people who are more discriminating, and there are also those that think the tiniest, tiniest flaw constitutes an absolutely horrendous product. Because of the way you complainers behave around here, I have trouble seeing you as anything other than people who are uber-anal (dare I say OCD?) and want to turn everyone else into like-minded souls.

I would imagine that some of us have owned dozens of Apple products (like me) and have never been in a situation like this before (like me).

I've had the odd defective product that was promptly replaced and that was that. I've never seen a situation where it seemed to be nearly impossible to obtain an acceptable replacement.
 
My issue isn't whether or not there are screen issues, as I've acknowledged on these boards that I believe there are. My problem is with those of you that incessantly hammer it home on every single thread with seemingly no clue how much of a nuisance you're making yourself. The only thing that has destroyed any of the credibility that you deserve is yourself, by wanting to cram your point down other people's throats.

I know that there are some people who are more discriminating, and there are also those that think the tiniest, tiniest flaw constitutes an absolutely horrendous product. Because of the way you complainers behave around here, I have trouble seeing you as anything other than people who are uber-anal (dare I say OCD?) and want to turn everyone else into like-minded souls. There is no one except perhaps a few truly blind, unwitting souls out there with atrocious screens, while most actually have perfectly fine (if not "perfect") screens. And yet you would assert that most are atrocious and that their owners are just too stupid or clueless to know it. There is absolutely no rational way you can come to that conclusion. That is the ultimate in self-centered crap.

None of us are "wrong," per se, in our opinions, but you can't assert that the vast majority of people are too stupid to see real flaws and that you happen to be one of the lucky few who are smart enough to see them. That in itself destroys the credibility of any valid thoughts you may have.

I know it seems like I'm being belligerent, but I'm trying to make a truly rational point. But you who continuously post your complaints over and over again are coming off as anything but rational. Stick to your own experiences and stop extrapolating what everyone else's experiences must be despite what they say, and I'd have no problem with you.

I have never called anyone stupid , what other's perceive to call perfect is thier prerogative and should have no one make them think otherwise. My eyes don't lie to me, I see what i see because it is obvious.

I have ranted over and over about this issue because this is the "ONLY" problem I have with my iPad. Maybe I should start another "agenda" so I don't come across so annoying
 
My issue isn't whether or not there are screen issues, as I've acknowledged on these boards that I believe there are. My problem is with those of you that incessantly hammer it home on every single thread with seemingly no clue how much of a nuisance you're making yourself. The only thing that has destroyed any of the credibility that you deserve is yourself, by wanting to cram your point down other people's throats.

I know that there are some people who are more discriminating, and there are also those that think the tiniest, tiniest flaw constitutes an absolutely horrendous product. Because of the way you complainers behave around here, I have trouble seeing you as anything other than people who are uber-anal (dare I say OCD?) and want to turn everyone else into like-minded souls. There is no one except perhaps a few truly blind, unwitting souls out there with atrocious screens, while most actually have perfectly fine (if not "perfect") screens. And yet you would assert that most are atrocious and that their owners are just too stupid or clueless to know it. There is absolutely no rational way you can come to that conclusion. That is the ultimate in self-centered crap.

None of us are "wrong," per se, in our opinions, but you can't assert that the vast majority of people are too stupid to see real flaws and that you happen to be one of the lucky few who are smart enough to see them. That in itself destroys the credibility of any valid thoughts you may have.

I know it seems like I'm being belligerent, but I'm trying to make a truly rational point. But you who continuously post your complaints over and over again are coming off as anything but rational. Stick to your own experiences and stop extrapolating what everyone else's experiences must be despite what they say, and I'd have no problem with you.

For someone who is so bothered by our complaints and claims to be so rational, you sure do spend an irrational amount of time hanging out in the complaint threads. If we're such a nuisance, why not do yourself and everyone else a favor and stop participating in these threads?

We're not here to prove anything to people like you. We're here to source the issues and discuss solutions. But people like you insist on entering these threads and putting everyone on the defensive, claiming we have an agenda, then you have the nerve to complain when we try to show you that the problems we're discussing potentially effect a lot more people than anyone is willing or able to realize.

If you don't want to discuss this stuff, don't come knocking. It's pretty simple.
 
For someone who is so bothered by our complaints and claims to be so rational, you sure do spend an irrational amount of time hanging out in the complaint threads. If we're such a nuisance, why not do yourself and everyone else a favor and stop participating in these threads?

We're not here to prove anything to people like you. We're here to source the issues and discuss solutions. But people like you insist on entering these threads and putting everyone on the defensive, claiming we have an agenda, then you have the nerve to complain when we try to show you that the problems we're discussing potentially effect a lot more people than anyone is willing or able to realize.

If you don't want to discuss this stuff, don't come knocking. It's pretty simple.

Amen:)
 
Its always amusing how those with out issues are more active in complaints thread, you guys have no business to be in this thread to begin with since your not facing the same issue, ergo you are just here to troll and/or flame.
 
I have a DY and it has a slight yellowing/darkening mostly on the upper left quadrant that extends down the left side in portrait mode. When reading every new line is a bit darker and it gets pretty distracting. I'm not sure what week mine is though. I was wondering if apple would swap an ipad purchased somewhere else (B+H) and if they do, can I keep my original box in case I decide I can't find an acceptable screen and just wan to return it to B and H until QC improves ?
 
For all I know, some fanboys really can't accept the fact that their beloved Apple is lacking quality manpowers in the QC department. And....they are going all out to get those who dare to mention this in any forum!
 
Its always amusing how those with out issues are more active in complaints thread, you guys have no business to be in this thread to begin with since your not facing the same issue, ergo you are just here to troll and/or flame.

Well, I'd welcome their posts if they wanted to help - posting as many pictures of nice white new iPad screens as possible, with the relevant serial number stats, would be helpful and encouraging information.

Unfortunately, many of the requests that have been made have apparently been with the intent to taunt those who claim to have perfect screens, which doesn't make us look very good.
 
For someone who is so bothered by our complaints and claims to be so rational, you sure do spend an irrational amount of time hanging out in the complaint threads. If we're such a nuisance, why not do yourself and everyone else a favor and stop participating in these threads?

We're not here to prove anything to people like you. We're here to source the issues and discuss solutions. But people like you insist on entering these threads and putting everyone on the defensive, claiming we have an agenda, then you have the nerve to complain when we try to show you that the problems we're discussing potentially effect a lot more people than anyone is willing or able to realize.

If you don't want to discuss this stuff, don't come knocking. It's pretty simple.

A little hard when you complainers turn practically every thread around here into a complaint thread. By the way, last time I checked, I have as much right to these forums as you.
 
A little hard when you complainers turn practically every thread around here into a complaint thread. By the way, last time I checked, I have as much right to these forums as you.

It works both ways. So people who have problems with their iPad have equal rights in posting their complaints in this forum. Hope you understand this simple logic dude.
 
It works both ways. So people who have problems with their iPad have equal rights in posting their complaints in this forum. Hope you understand this simple logic dude.

Yep. So y'all keep bitching and so will I. Glad we could come to an understanding. :D
 
Yep. So y'all keep bitching and so will I. Glad we could come to an understanding. :D

The difference is, we didn't admit we are bitching. We are merely discussing. You can bitch all you want buddy. This is a free world.We have an understanding on that :D
 
Just an FYI for you guys, same camera (iPhone 4) and same grey scale but this time on my iPad (first generation) I have used this daily since October 2010 and never noticed it!

Looks like its not an issue thats exclusive to the new iPad!

Cheers :apple:

Wow! That is interesting! Your first gen looks indeed quiet bad :eek:
 
Wow! That is interesting! Your first gen looks indeed quiet bad :eek:

I know, but i'd never noticed it! Back then I returned a couple for bad backlight bleed, hadn't even known about a colour cast to look for in 2010.

Just goes to show if you don't know about a 'problem' you dont look for it!
 
I know, but i'd never noticed it! Back then I returned a couple for bad backlight bleed, hadn't even known about a colour cast to look for in 2010.

Just goes to show if you don't know about a 'problem' you dont look for it!

And this is exactly what we're seeing here.... people blindly excepting the problem. However, many people read up about it, have a proper look at their device, and bingo, their the problem is.
 
Lets face it..

I think we have to accept that there is a problem with the New iPad Screen.

I have gone through 3 of my own and enough people have gone through many many more. I think people don't complain because they love to complain, or because they are ANAL or OCD. They complain because they care and want the product to be perfect & honestly that's not asking for something out of this world.

Apple advertises the screen as the best in the BUSINESS.
If they do, then they should provide that perfect screen.

Most of us here love Apple and its products and that's why we buy them over and over again. But I think its in everybody's favour to be aware of these problems, because you are paying your hard earned money for it and you should get a quality product without any defects, however minimal.

I am sure there are perfect screens out there, as we have seen in this thread but I also believe there are MANY MANY unacceptable ones out there.

Really hope apple sorts this out soon :)
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for me it was the last ipad for sure ..

when i got the ipad 2 i got 7! refubished ones and all of them got more or less screenbleeding etc ..

i mean why the hell apple send me a replacment unit that have the SAME error ..

:D
 
I believe people complain because Apple is so unresponsive. If Apple had acknowledged that there are some iPads with screen issues and they are looking into the problem; I think the number of complaints and emotional intensity of the posts would diminish significantly.

I also believe some fan boys realize Apple probably will not fix the screen issues, so they are doing their best to cope with the situation. That includes flat out denial, minimizing the problem, and attacking those who are complaining.

So until Apple acknowledges the screen problems, those rational folks with bad screens have no other recourse than to keep protesting on the iPad forums.
 
I believe people complain because Apple is so unresponsive. If Apple had acknowledged that there are some iPads with screen issues and they are looking into the problem; I think the number of complaints and emotional intensity of the posts would diminish significantly.

I also believe some fan boys realize Apple probably will not fix the screen issues, so they are doing their best to cope with the situation. That includes flat out denial, minimizing the problem, and attacking those who are complaining.

So until Apple acknowledges the screen problems, those rational folks with bad screens have no other recourse than to keep protesting on the iPad forums.

Having used Apple products, both professionally and personally, for 20 odd years and experienced a few bumps in the road along the way it is safe to assume that Apple will not acknowledge the issue. I'm not saying that this is a widespread issue or not, however Apple tend to sort these things out on a one-to-one basis and would not wish to draw widespread attention to it resulting in tens of thousands of replacements.
 
You're not taking the picture right with your Canon. First the camera needs to be a Nikon with Vivid color settings of +1, contrast of 0, sharpening of +4, and saturation of +3. You cannot use a lens with an fstop lower than 3. The indoor light has to be set at automatic white balance!!!! No flash

If it takes ONLY those precise settings to show there's an issue, I think you should stop taking pictures of your iPad and just enjoy it. If there's an obvious issue with the screen then you'll notice it. Don't have a problem just cause everyone else does.
 
If it takes ONLY those precise settings to show there's an issue, I think you should stop taking pictures of your iPad and just enjoy it. If there's an obvious issue with the screen then you'll notice it. Don't have a problem just cause everyone else does.

It was a joke.
 
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