iPhone X Pics Taken with iPhone X

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  1. torontoapple macrumors member

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    Hwy 7 and Jane ? New subway right?
     
  2. TokMok3 macrumors 6502

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    I just funded out yesterday that my iPod touch 5 generation and my iPad min retina can take better macro pictures than my iPhone X, unless I have a defective camera...
     
  3. eyeseeyou macrumors 68020

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    Hate to get off track here but as anyone been noticing awesome/impressive pics on your social media feed and read the caption and it’s not an iPhone/x?

    The pic was taken with a pixel 2?

    Come on Apple.
     
  4. fred98tj macrumors 6502

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    Most of the top tier phones can take great photos.
     
  5. eyeseeyou macrumors 68020

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    Yeah I’m just saying the gap wasn’t this close before.

    Honestly feel like the pixel 2, for now(software based), takes better “auto mode”/portrait pics.
     
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  8. fred98tj macrumors 6502

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    Also, what’s a “better” or “good” photograph to you ?

    For instance acrystal clear, tack sharp pic isn’t necessarily a good photograph.

    As the late Ansel Adams said “There is nothing worse than a sharp image of a fuzzy concept.”
     
  9. eyeseeyou macrumors 68020

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    Personal preference, from a non technical, not for print, visually pleasing standpoint and I guess since you mentioned dxomark the pixel 2 takes better pictures?

    But for a specific example portrait photos somehow seem sharper and amazingly done with a single lens.
     
  10. fred98tj macrumors 6502

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    Since we are talking photos (not videos) then the iPhone X scores higher than the Pixel 2,
     

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  11. eyeseeyou macrumors 68020

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    Specific to this point I think the pixel 2 generally takes sharper and clearer pictures in non optimal conditions.

    Selfie portraits are definitely better on the pixel 2.
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    Ah ok well per that resource can’t argue.

    Hmm maybe there are just more skilled mobile photographers posting with the hashtag #pixel2 compared to the iPhone X.

    Either way I really could tell what was taken with an iPhone and a non iPhone. Now I have to double check what phone was used.
     
  12. fred98tj macrumors 6502

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    Another quote from Ansel Adams “A good photograph is knowing where to stand”.

    Also the X is rated higher for the bokah effects on DXOMark.

    The Pixel 2 scored 45 for bokah and the iPhone X score 55.
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    Your conclusion is most likely correct. There are probably more “better” photographers (for your taste) using the Pixel on the social media that you visit than photographers using the X.

    A “better” camera does not make a person a better photographer. Too many people go chasing down that rabbit hole.
     
  13. eyeseeyou macrumors 68020

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    I’ve noticed more strange focus issues on the edges of iPhone X portrait pics than the pixel 2.

    I assume you completely disagree with me or if it’s not iPhone it’s not as good?
     
  14. fred98tj macrumors 6502

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    Don’t know. I don’t use portrait mode and I’ve never really studied protrait mode photos from any of the phones.
    Here are some “bokah” photos taken with my iPhone 7+. When the weather clears here I’ll start photographing with my X. E122CCB5-C5C6-47F4-969B-2723ED199EC4.jpeg 7E4CCD22-3E85-437D-8C90-755025468B9F.jpeg 62B7176F-571A-474C-A9BD-3F8CE760E034.jpeg 813D200B-8361-429D-8189-3517F8758504.jpeg 408D4F4A-82B1-493C-949D-4035A0590788.jpeg 6A838B73-2952-43AC-A562-B1A47586DAA6.jpeg F8A73D56-5442-4178-8EA7-BEE18F10B2F5.jpeg 660C63E1-56DE-4166-B6AA-EC679DFEFF79.jpeg A1BD79AD-64A0-4342-9CB2-6082661F9A1F.jpeg 04D16A2E-6266-4488-8E0A-B3E8A69B1752.jpeg
     
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    No one seems to appreciate how much better raw capture and support is on iOS compared to Android. I’m also curious by the lack of any reports comparing raw sensor performance and raw file malleability between the Pixel 2 and iPhone X.

    This was shot on my X in Raw format (Halide app) and processed to taste in LR mobile. Shooting in JPEG will never allow you to pull out this amount of shadow and highlight detail from the sensor.
     

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    No prior Apple product (and no phone of an company prior to 2015 or 2016) can take better photos than the X or a current-gen product. At all.
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    I’ve noticed the majority of photos I’ve seen that are outstanding are (strangely) either iPhone 7plus or the X.

    Perhaps representative sample issues?
     
  18. fred98tj macrumors 6502

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    These are not portrait mode photos. I make all my photos in raw and choose which lens I want to use at the moment.
    These are all real bokah, no software created bokah.
     
  19. sumsingwong macrumors 6502a

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    I've messed around with with a Pixel 2 XL and it's definitely better than my iPhone X as far a camera is concerned. Apple has yet to improve the masking unlike the Pixel 2 XL which is why edges are so soft on the X during portrait mode. I was a bit disappointed. The studio lighting is nice though. Even the masking on my Note 8 has better on portrait/Live mode than my X. Unfortunately, portrait mode is only on the back camera unless Samsung decides to provide a software update to emulate the front camera of the Pixel 2.
     
  20. eyeseeyou macrumors 68020

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    This looks amazing.
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    I just looked up the hashtag #pixel2 on Instagram and on social media.

    I have a dslr for photos I intend on printing or for product shots so I’m not comparing it to even that mentality of photography.

    I’m thinking pure mobile “auto” pics.
     
  21. Leon88 macrumors regular

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    Try the Focos app and you will have total control over the Portrait mode masking. It makes the X bokeh superior to the Pixel 2 because you are given choices on the type of bokeh. In fact, using the app even fixes the front facing camera issues with subject edge detection. I’ve shown this image before, but it’s a good example of what the X faux bokeh is capable of in conjunction with the app.
     

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  22. eyeseeyou macrumors 68020

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    Here are some examples of iPhone portrait mode that I see less of on the pixel 2.
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    Wow. That looks great.

    I have the focos app. I need to learn how to use it based off of this pic.
     
  23. fred98tj macrumors 6502

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    Which is interesting as DDXMark rate both the Pixel 2 and the Note 8 a 45 for bokah/portrait and the X at 55.

    As I’ve mentioned I don’t use portraits mode at all and also have never even seen anyone with a pixel around here. Note 8s are plentiful.



    Here’s for the Note 8:


    Bokeh simulation on the Note 8 does a pretty consistent job in both low and bright light conditions. Its strengths are a strong blur or depth-of-field effect, which can make for some striking portraits. The shape of the bokeh is a nice circular pattern, similar to what would be achieved optically with a telephoto lens and wide aperture. Repeatability is an issue, with the effect failing to activate on about a third of our portraits, and a noticeable step in the blur gradient is often evident behind the subject, along with inconsistencies in the amount of noise applied to the blur.




    Here’s for the Pixel 2:



    Despite not having a second camera, the Pixel 2 does a good job using software to synthesize blur in both the foreground and the background of images. The feature is susceptible to irregularities from frame to frame, however, with occasional artifacts along the edges of subjects. Indoor scenes can also display gradient artifacts. Here you can see the improvements over the original Google Pixel, but even the Pixel 2 version shows some depth-estimation artifacts behind the model, as well as in such high-frequency areas as the top left corner



    And here’s for the X:



    The iPhone X’s improved telephoto lens also ensures sharper portraits in both indoor and outdoor conditions. The bokeh simulation algorithm applied in Portrait mode is also one of the nicer ones we’ve seen, producing a pleasant depth-of-field effect, a good bokeh shape with nice circular spectral highlights, and very repeatable results. The background blur isn’t as strong as we’ve seen for other devices (notably the Samsung Galaxy Note 8), but that gives the X’s bokeh a slightly more natural appearance. The X lost points for noticeable failures in depth estimation, with elements in the foreground slightly blurred (although not as blurred as the background) whether they’re connected to the portrait subject or not. Some artifacts and masking errors around the portrait are visible on 100% crops, too, but they won’t be particularly noticeable in images displayed on small scale.

     
  24. Leon88 macrumors regular

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    The app's built-in tutorials do a pretty good job describing how to control the level of blur in your photos. All I do is play around with the foreground and background bokeh sliders to get that edge detection just right.
     

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