iPhone 12 Pictures taken with the iPhone 12 / 12 Pro

[Coffee_Time]

Thats an interesting observation. So basically sony makes the sensors and LG packages the camera modules.

That camera needs high optic quality glass or plastic, be precisely aligned, then a microchip that can do 60fps or more or 10 bit then that chip also need software, calibration with sensor then they sell it to Apple. As a complete package. Then on top of that Apple adds another software and customisations. Same applies for displays. The 120 hz chip that drives Samsung displays is made by another company. Google it as IC 120 hz oled driver. That is a chip.

 

[lrsone]

Is that looking down Doyers while standing at Pell? I was just there last week. God I miss New York. What a hell of a town!

Great photos, thank you for sharing!

Thanks! I have a love/hate thing for this city because I was born and grew up here. But I’m moving some time next year and I’ll be lying to you if I said I’m not gonna miss this place. I always come down to Chinatown and try to support some of the small businesses that have been struggling because of COVID.

 

[greekappi]

the color seems a bit off but it got cloudy right as I started.

I imagine the color is off because it recorded it in Dolby Vision and when displaying on a non-HDR screen HDR content looks washed out like that. I wonder if there is any way to download that video, put it on my phone, then AirPlay it to my Apple TV which is hooked up to my Dolby Vision TV.

 

[lrsone]

What I really want to see is if in night mode they still let in the light reflections in the picture. Having little green lights all over your shot really ruined it for me. I’m really hoping the 12 solved this issue.

The Verge confirmed that it’s still a problem that exists which is pretty annoying if you ask me. They recorded a video and it was very present.

 

[Coffee_Time]

Thats an interesting observation. So basically sony makes the sensors and LG packages the camera modules.


“LG Innotek will be supplying 3D Time of Flight (ToF) modules for Apple’s next generation iPads and iPhones in 2020, according to industry sources on Sept. 16.

The ToF sensors for the iPad modules will come from Japan’s Sony, unlike last year when the sensors that LG Innotek supplied to LG Electronics’ G8 ThinQ smartphones came from Germany’s Infineon.

Sony is also likely to manufacture the ToF sensors for the iPhones as well, for which LG Innotek will be an exclusive supplier.”

LG Innotek to supply ToF modules for iPad, iPhones in 2020 - THE ELEC, Korea Electronics Industry Media

LG Innotek will be supplying 3D Time of Flight (ToF) modules for Apple’s next generation iPads and iPhones in 2020, according to industry sources on Sept. 16.ToF is a camera technology that allows...

www.thelec.net

Sony also makes complete packages and also Samsung. But up until now LG Innotek made the very best of all 3. See iphone 11 example. We're they good in making them?

 

[Samut]

I was surprised for the fact that the whole module is not made by Sony. I was assuming that it would make sense if the whole camera module would be made by them.

Live and learn i guess.😊

What do you think. Could the sensor be actually read 120 times per second for hdr video as I was under impression that they need to take two frames for each of the frames in 60fps video? I tried to Google whether sony already makes 12mp sensors which could do this but could not find any.

 

[lrsone]

I’m interested to see the lowlight performance on and off a tripod. I shoot with Sony cameras which I know this iPhone will never reach the quality of those cameras. But I’m excited for lowlight performance coming from an iPhone X.

 

[rawCpoppa]

I’m interested to see the lowlight performance on and off a tripod. I shoot with Sony cameras which I know this iPhone will never reach the quality of those cameras. But I’m excited for lowlight performance coming from an iPhone X.

iPhone X owner here. I want to see this with the 12 Pro Max.

 

[xxray]

What I really want to see is if in night mode they still let in the light reflections in the picture. Having little green lights all over your shot really ruined it for me. I’m really hoping the 12 solved this issue.

It’s not solved. I think it was The Verge’s 12 Pro video review on YouTube that they showed how bad it was and complained about it.

 

[Coffee_Time]

I was surprised for the fact that the whole module is not made by Sony. I was assuming that it would make sense if the whole camera module would be made by them.

Live and learn i guess.😊

What do you think. Could the sensor be actually read 120 times per second for hdr video as I was under impression that they need to take two frames for each of the frames in 60fps video? I tried to Google whether sony already makes 12mp sensors which could do this but could not find any.

The read is done by the chip and shutter is also involved. Same in display refresh rate is done by the chip. Idk who makes that chip. Maybe Sony, maybe lg, maybe a 3rd party manufacturer. But definitely Sony Xperia 1 mark 2 has 4K 120 fps HDR 10 bit sensor. Maybe iPhone 12 pro max is using the exact same one as it also has same pixel size...

 

[LonestarOne]

Apple has traditionally been using sensors from Sony, including the lidar. As sony is leading manufacturer for sensors I would say it is safe to assume they have not changed their supplier.

Apple has traditionally used CPUs from Intel. As Intel is the leading manufacturer for CPUs, it is safe to assume that they have not changed their supplier?

There is a flaw in that logic.

 

[thadoggfather]

he is enamored by the Pacific blue and tricloptics.

 

[vrflyer]

Im a photographer and I use a D750 which has tremendous quality.

If you think that your camera kicks butt (as an SLR for its time), then you'd be surprised what an a6600 camera does. I try not to use an iPhone for anything any high image photography for this particular matter.

 

[fauxtog]

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iPhone 12 vs iPhone 6.

There was exceptionally low light in the room (pitch darkness aside for one very small bedside lamp)

OMG, that cat is beautiful and doesn't look real, LOL

 

[Samut]

Apple has traditionally used CPUs from Intel. As Intel is the leading manufacturer for CPUs, it is safe to assume that they have not changed their supplier?

There is a flaw in that logic.

So do you genuinely believe that the sensor in iPhone would be designed and manufactured by Apple?

 

[anticipate]

Do you have a source for this (or can explain the way you calculated this yourself)? I think I read somewhere that the Max sensor is now something like 1/1.9 in size.

the current sensor is 1/2.25” (off the top of my head). Apple says the new sensor is 47% larger. If you do all the math it comes to 1/1.2”. I’m not a math genius though; I just added 47% more to the size.

then again if you ask Siri to remove 47% from 1/2.25” you get 1/1.35”. Still very big. About 9.06 x 6.6mm.

(The Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro has the same size sensor)

A 1 inch sensor is 12.8x9.6mm.

The current wide sensor in the 12 non max is 6.17x4.55

Micro 4/3 for reference is 17x13mm. So it’s still rather small yes. But huge for a phone sensor.

 

[anticipate]

I think its going to be a 1/1.7” sensor if you calculate 47% increase from 1/2.55 sensor in iPhone 11 and iPhone 12.

Now I’m getting getting 1/1.35” (2.55 - 47%). It’s a lot bigger

 

[Jumpie]

I imagine the color is off because it recorded it in Dolby Vision and when displaying on a non-HDR screen HDR content looks washed out like that. I wonder if there is any way to download that video, put it on my phone, then AirPlay it to my Apple TV which is hooked up to my Dolby Vision TV.

Here’s an iCloud link. Try it out.

Shared Photos

share.icloud.com

 

[Eldar Gezalov]

Some cool shots here! I have tested my wife's iPhone 12 Pro today, and it made me even more excited about the iPhone 12 Pro Max, which I am planning to get. (Still can't decide between Pacific Blue & Graphite though...

Here is a quick vid from my testing:

 

[Robbosan]

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iPhone 12 vs iPhone 6.

There was exceptionally low light in the room (pitch darkness aside for one very small bedside lamp)

Im not a cat person but i'd have that one

 

[xDENTALPLANx]

OMG, that cat is beautiful and doesn't look real, LOL

Im not a cat person but i'd have that one

thank you! I’ve only had her for 3 months, so I’m glad to have a new iPhone to take constant photos of her 🤣

 

[the future]

Now I’m getting getting 1/1.35” (2.55 - 47%). It’s a lot bigger

I think you‘re calculating this wrong. According to Wiki a 1/2.55 sensor has an area of 25 mm². A 47% larger sensor would have an area of 36,75 mm². According to the same page, a 1/1.7 sensor has an area of 43 mm². So the sensor in the new Max is smaller than that and the 1/1.9 number I read somewhere might be correct after all.

 

[Jumpie]

Here are a couple more of my dogs . The first is done using the new Halide and then stock Apple camera. Using Halide’s RAW+jpg; I didn’t modify them. I think stock camera wins this round.

 

[nmeed]

Can someone please take photos of the moon? I hate with my 7 Plus how the moon looks like a gigantic plate but the camera shows it as a dot.

 

[LonestarOne]

So do you genuinely believe that the sensor in iPhone would be designed and manufactured by Apple?

Probably not manufactured by Apple, any more than they manufacturer their own processors, but it’s entirely conceivable that they might produce their own design. Do you genuinely believe that’s impossible?