other than operating systems I am not sure that Apples software game has ever been very strong. They make a good OS but their other software isn't really that impressive and so its not that surprising that their AI efforts have been lackluster
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other than operating systems I am not sure that Apples software game has ever been very strong. They make a good OS but their other software isn't really that impressive and so its not that surprising that their AI efforts have been lackluster
Same price as an iPhone? That's a no-no.
Same support as Apple? Difficult to say at this point. But they'd be hard pressed to exceed it.
Same performance as Apple?
Same support as Apple? Difficult to say at this point. But they'd be hard pressed to exceed it.
Same performance as Apple?
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Wow.. that counts towards every consumer product out there. Except Macbook Pros. Will Apple release an updated Macbook Pro next year with Kaby Lake? Or will it be merely a small speed bump with Skylake?
Wow.. that counts towards every consumer product out there. Except Macbook Pros. Will Apple release an updated Macbook Pro next year with Kaby Lake? Or will it be merely a small speed bump with Skylake?
"The first real google phone" How many strikes is it before you're out?
This will be another floundering android iPhone clone. Google can't pay the media enough to write positive articles, but the truth still shines. This is an overpriced iPhone 6 knockoff.
Google sucks at hardware; they are good at stealing mobile operating systems. And they're great at tracking you and serving up ads. And google was funded by CIA venture capital company, just like Facebook...
This will be another floundering android iPhone clone. Google can't pay the media enough to write positive articles, but the truth still shines. This is an overpriced iPhone 6 knockoff.
Google sucks at hardware; they are good at stealing mobile operating systems. And they're great at tracking you and serving up ads. And google was funded by CIA venture capital company, just like Facebook...
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I'm surprised Apple hasn't hit them with a lawsuit on this. It seriously looks just like an iPhone with a few things moved around.
Well, its based off an existing HTC design (like really based off it HTC 10 I think) except Google changed the back and added the glass, they also removed the touch controls underneath the bottom front bezel section (it takes up space but serves no purpose). So HTC probably deserves the lawsuit first. But make no mistake Google is going after iOS switchers here - based on the design and attention they gave the camera and that makes sense since they don't want to antagonize the Android vendor who has 80% marketshare - Samsung - although I'm sure they are not happy.
I'm glad Google is doing this though, it'll give Apple some more motivation to step up their game - between a three-pete iPhone design, technologies that are left to languish after initial introduction and updates (Siri etc.), Mac's that are never refreshed...Apple's been loosing track of things to an extent. Maybe this will help focus them.
That's actually the main reason why I've never owned an Android phone. Although I've been tempted by the S7, I just don't trust Google with my data. I feel more safe and 'secure' with Apple and trust them way more with my stuff. I'd feel uncomfortable on Android with that lurking at the back of my mind every time I use it. I'd just feel like I'm constantly being spied upon.
REALLY ... Apple, through iMessage, knows where you are every step of your day. Change countries, sign-in with a second Apple ID and Apple sends you an email telling you where it is you signed in from and whether or not that's OK.
Apple know everything they need to know about you AND dole out that info as they see fit.
I have a Moto G made before Google sold Motorola (all I could afford), so I don't really see the Pixel as Google's first phone.
OLED is wonderful and I'm glad to have it, but the 1080p Apple iPhone 7Plus screen is nothing to look down on. In fact over in the android forum in a Pixel thread at Android Central they have members vigorous debating in favor of the merits of the iPhone's display. Many high end Android phones still use LCD panels.
I spent several years playing with both iPhones and several Android phones. I prefer the iPhone & iOS, but really have nothing against Android. I think this is an excellent option, and from what some of the Google execs were saying I get the feeling this is a turning point for them with Android & hardware and the beginning of them really trying to build their own phones and iterating on them year after year, and keeping tighter control on the whole device/software/updates/etc.
"This is Google's first phone, and for a first effort it is remarkably good."
Why do they keep saying this is Google's first phone? It is not Google's first phone by any stretch of the imagination.
This is Google's first phone called "Pixel."
The G1 is Google's first phone. Perhaps one can argue the Nexus One is their first phone. Moreover, The Pixel is manufactured by HTC, as was the G1 and as was the Nexus One.
Why do they keep saying this is Google's first phone? It is not Google's first phone by any stretch of the imagination.
This is Google's first phone called "Pixel."
The G1 is Google's first phone. Perhaps one can argue the Nexus One is their first phone. Moreover, The Pixel is manufactured by HTC, as was the G1 and as was the Nexus One.
Amen brother. More than ever, it's as simple as who you trust with everything about you: a company that makes money making and selling products or a company that makes money acquiring and selling information. As Cook said, follow the cash. I'll stick with Apple's ecosystem, tyvm.
Why would they. Google is probably paying the proper patent fees to appleI'm surprised Apple hasn't hit them with a lawsuit on this. It seriously looks just like an iPhone with a few things moved around.
Google assistant in Allo is actually a bit more advanced than the one that ties into the Pixel at large. For example in the Allo version, you are able to interact with the Assistant via both speech and typing. And it needs to spend time interacting with you to learn about you and then the answers will start to get more sensible and reliable and relevant to your needs.
However, to accomplish this you do have to reveal information about yourself to the Assistant and that can be uncomfortable for many people. It is for me and I have had to acclimate to it. I don't think it would faze too many younger folks used to living out their every waking moment on Snapchat, Instagram and Facebook. But for someone my age who was brought up being told that religion, sex and politics were forbidden topics for conversation, it's a bit disconcerting to tell Google what I like to eat.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was "cancered." Not the first, and certainly won't be the last...
You're right, but Apple's business model doesn't include constantly data mining your phone location, e-mails, searches, text's, times and locations for advertising (and saving all that data, possibly permanently) - Google's does, its how they make their money - off your personal details. While I would consider Google to be much better than Microsoft (they've shown much better moral judgement over time), its still their business model and all that data is still a honeypot the U.S. (and other govts) cannot ignore (as we saw with Yahoo the U.S. govt is still accessing these guys databases with secret read everything warrants).
So I can see where iOS and trusting Apple for privacy is a much better bet than Google or Microsoft or Yahoo etc.. And if you want to take things to the next level just use Signal on iOS and really keep things closed. JMHO...
I find it appealing. If I were eligible for upgrade this year, I'd probably go for the Pixel XL over the iPhone 7 Plus.
Next year I'm going to have a hard time figuring out what phone I want...
They've actually said they are NOT anticipating high sales numbers or widespread adoption. This first foray out is to get a feel for forging relationships with carriers and dealing with customer service for hardware. If this flops it will only be because they follow their tendency to pull back and let promising projects die rather than go all in in them. They seem to have commitment phobia according to people who are more familiar with their ways than I am, as a longtime resident of the Apple ecosystem.
This time the signs are more encouraging that they are committed to this endeavor for the long term. But we shall see. I don't mind giving them a chance for a year and seeing how it goes, while I wait for Apple to get their act together a bit better than they have recently.
I wonder how many reviewers evaluated the images on a wider-than-sRGB-gamut display (which includes viewing them on an iPhone 7). Pushing an image to be more saturated on an sRGB display has the risk of saturating some colour channels which doesn't look good.
Exactly how much money do these manufacturers get from the Carriers to make it exclusive?
Windows Lumia 1020: exclusive to AT&T = Tanked
Amazon Fire Phone: exclusive to AT&T= Tanked
Are the couple of $ millions they get from the carriers really worth cutting out 3/4 of all phone purchasers?
I'm no fan of Samsung, but at least they managed to figure THAT out ...
Windows Lumia 1020: exclusive to AT&T = Tanked
Amazon Fire Phone: exclusive to AT&T= Tanked
Are the couple of $ millions they get from the carriers really worth cutting out 3/4 of all phone purchasers?
I'm no fan of Samsung, but at least they managed to figure THAT out ...
Given that HTC is manufacturing the Pixel for Google, I'd say the two companies have come to an understanding and won't feel the need to sue each other (at least not over the current state, future differences could emerge).