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"Best performance on Android..."

No, it's not faster than OP3, already saw a video comparing.
 
Why is this thread full of people trying to prove how much better the iPhone is?

Be happy with what you got, and live you life. Does you phone, and how great it is, define your life?

I have the 7 plus, and apple watch series 2, and iPad pro 9.7. I love my little mobile set up, and thus won't be getting the Pixel.

If I didn't have the above already, the Pixel would get serious consideration alongside the iPhone.

The iPhone has the faster chip, waterproofing, no glass panel that an shatter, iOS, and a forward facing fingerprint scanner.

The Pixel has a camera that can go toe to toe with the iPhone, a nice design, google assistant makes siri look dumb, faster charging, and Apple level customer support. The back facing fingerprint scanner is actually pretty nice, as was the one on the Nexus 6p. The iPhone is has the faster chip, but it also leverages this chip for everything it does (photo indexing, etc). The Pixel leverages google cloud for a lot of things. In normal use, the speed difference will barely be noticeable, if at all. Plus if you go through google-fi (not sure about google financing), you can get google protect for $5 a month.

Its a great phone, and I expected it to be. Google is putting out some impressive hardware (my onhub is the best router I have ever used, and I am looking forward to pairing it with a google wifi hub to extend my network), and we are seeing some impressive integration. A few year from now, the Pixel and surrounding hardware will be really impressive.

This will only push Apple to do even better, which in turn pushes Google. This is great for everyone.

I'll be sticking with iOS for the foreseeable future, but my life doesn't depend on what other say about my phone, and I can admit this is an impressive phone.
 
None of the Pixel reviews seem to mention that it is actually slower than the iPhone SE.

Google’s phone can’t even top the performance of the iPhone 6s and iPhone SE.

The first benchmarks for the Pixel and Pixel XL on Geekbench 4 show the phones (which are the same on the inside) scored around 4,100 for multicore performance and around 1,580 for single core. By comparison, the iPhone 7 hit a score of 5,600 for multicore performance and earned a single-core score of 3,430. The iPhone 6s got a multicore score of 4,106 and a single-core score of 2,508.
 
Why in the hell did they make it look exactly like an iPhone? It costs virtually the same as an iPhone; why not just get an iPhone if you want something that looks like an iPhone? I guess this is mostly targeted toward Android users who want an iPhone but can't stand to use iOS?

The hardware is impressive, and that's all that really matters, but this would be a far more attractive device if it sought a different visual ascetic. Virtually every smartphone looks like a rectangular plastic/aluminum slab these days, and the iPhone has chosen one of the blandest approaches matching that trend.

It seems as if Google went, "Hey, Apple is selling boring-looking phones like crazy. Let's make our own phone, and let's make it just as boring."
Actually I'm an iPhone user buying this thing. Not for the looks but for what they are trying to do with AI and VR. I said in this forum several months ago that I could see no reason to strap a cell phone to my face for VR. I will now have to eat my words. Fortunately I have a wonderful cup of tea to wash it all down. Oh don't get me wrong I think VR with a headphone is still going to be a sub par experience. But I'm going to get to try it for free. I'll be Google's Guinea Pig and they will be mine. And the kids will love it for at least five minutes. ;)

As for the aesthetics of the Pixel, well yes I first thought it was an iPhone clone, too. But after a little reading and shopping I learned more about the company manufacturing this phone for Google. HTC has long had this design aesthetic that predates the look of the iPhone 6 and subsequent iPhone models. So one must then wonder if it was Apple who took their design cues from HTC. o_O

The entire industry frankly is very derivative. So rather than fuss over why so many phones look alike and who did what first, I have decided for sanity's sake to simply evaluate which phone best offers the features and value I am looking for.
 
For years my non-apple friends have voiced subtle disdain for Apple wanting to control everything in their ecosystem (hardware/software). Now it seems (per this dude) that it's some amazing new feat.
 
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I find it appealing. If I were eligible for upgrade this year, I'd probably go for the Pixel XL over the iPhone 7 Plus.

Next year I'm going to have a hard time figuring out what phone I want...

I think I am not just because of how into the Apple ecosystem I am in and with things like continuity it's really hard to think about any other ecosystems.
 
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The Samsung edge series is a cheap cop out compared to true edge to edge displays that are soon to come

You're putting down a product that's been out for several years vs an imagined product that doesn't even exist yet.
 
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Because one spends the time to find out what works, the other just looks at what the other did.
Like Apple Maps? Water-proofing? Dual cameras? Stereo Speakers? Lockscreen widgets and information? Predictive text suggestions?
 
The time has come for Apple to replace Google as the default option for Search in iOS. Ballpark, this distribution accounts for 20-25% of Google's total US business, which if by far its most profitable GEO. It would be a devastating impact to Google financials and data collection scheme

But, still keep it as an option for those who really want it (same as they currently do for Bing)

I have been using DuckDuckGo for the past year. It is great. I recommend trying it if you have not. I could see a future where Apple buys it, rebrands as Apple Search.

I like the idea of Apple getting into search. DuckDuckGo is great, although their image search isn't quite up to Google's though. It is better than Bing's in my opinion. Although, I've noticed that Bing's image results are better when done through Siri. Maybe there is hope for Bing after all. lol
 
But seriously, let's look at the Pixel phone in the real world, instead of MS paid advertisement on Macrumors.
Daniel debunks the hype:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/16...one-7-plus-but-it-lacks-numerous-key-features

LOL on that article. First they ding the Nexus for a feature that neither the Nexus nor iPhones have, then they ding it for features the iPhone has but are worthless like a "wide color display" (which is strange considering they haven't even tested the Nexus's gamut so they're just guessing its screen gamut wont match the iPhone) and even more worthless stuff like haptic feedback and 3DTouch.
 
If the device is fast enough to do what it needs to do, comparisons with other phones is largely irrelevant.


None of the Pixel reviews seem to mention that it is actually slower than the iPhone SE.

Google’s phone can’t even top the performance of the iPhone 6s and iPhone SE.

The first benchmarks for the Pixel and Pixel XL on Geekbench 4 show the phones (which are the same on the inside) scored around 4,100 for multicore performance and around 1,580 for single core. By comparison, the iPhone 7 hit a score of 5,600 for multicore performance and earned a single-core score of 3,430. The iPhone 6s got a multicore score of 4,106 and a single-core score of 2,508.
 
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"This is Google's first phone, and for a first effort it is remarkably good."

Why do they keep saying this is Google's first phone? It is not Google's first phone by any stretch of the imagination.

This is Google's first phone called "Pixel."

The G1 is Google's first phone. Perhaps one can argue the Nexus One is their first phone. Moreover, The Pixel is manufactured by HTC, as was the G1 and as was the Nexus One.

Its the first phone Google was supposedly involved in the design with. Previous phones were all spec'd internally by the manufacturer .
 
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I liked that aspect of Steve.
"I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this,"

Steve Jobs.
 



The first round of reviews of Google's new Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones appeared online this morning. Most sites have come away with largely positive impressions of the devices, hailing in particular the Pixel's camera performance compared to the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus.

The Verge called the Pixel a "home run" for Google, noting that while it looks like an iPhone from afar, "there are a lot of differences" in design details, such as the glass shade on the upper third of the back of the phone where the fingerprint ID sits, the "subtle wedge shape" of the handset, and the lack of a camera bump.


Camera performance was a standout feature, said The Verge, which claimed it "bested the iPhone in picking up detail". In terms of speed, both Pixels were rated as "fast - noticeably faster than Samsung's Galaxy S7. On performance alone, these are easily the best Android phones you can buy". Google's failure to make the Pixel range waterproof though was considered "dumb and annoying".
TechCrunch said Google had delivered a "terrific photo and video experience" on the Pixel, noting that its video stabilization works "astonishingly well". Testing the Pixel camera side-by-side with the iPhone 7 Plus, the latter was considered to deliver more accurate colors outdoors, but overall picture quality was said to be "so close that it's impossible to call, except by personal preference".

Wired said the Pixel's built-in AI was "the best voice assistant yet", while overall the device "has a look and competence of an iPhone, with a truly great camera and loads of innovative software and services".
CNET performed a direct comparison of the iPhone 7 and Pixel's camera capabilities, and came away with the impression that the Pixel achieved brighter colors, sharper detail in backgrounds of photos and on-par low-light photography.

In contrast to the general consensus, The New York Times was less flattering in its overall estimation of Google's phone, calling the Pixel "mediocre". Photos shot with the camera "don't look as good as the iPhone's", while Google's built-in AI personal assistant was said to be "fairly dumb".

For those interested, Pixel is available in 32GB and 128GB options as a Verizon exclusive in the United States, but is also available unlocked for $649 on the Google Store. Each phone comes in "Very Silver," "Quite Black," and "Really Blue" colorways.

Article Link: Pixel Phone Reviews: A 'Truly Great Camera' and a 'Home Run' for Google

I can't ever consider any other mobile phone device except for the iPhone because my work and family all use the Messages app to communicate with each other. That was a smart move on Apple's part. Everything else can be worked around in one way or another.
 
You're right, but Apple's business model doesn't include constantly data mining your phone location, e-mails, searches, text's, times and locations for advertising (and saving all that data, possibly permanently) - Google's does, its how they make their money - off your personal details. While I would consider Google to be much better than Microsoft (they've shown much better moral judgement over time), its still their business model and all that data is still a honeypot the U.S. (and other govts) cannot ignore (as we saw with Yahoo the U.S. govt is still accessing these guys databases with secret read everything warrants).

So I can see where iOS and trusting Apple for privacy is a much better bet than Google or Microsoft or Yahoo etc.. And if you want to take things to the next level just use Signal on iOS and really keep things closed. JMHO...

We'll see what happens when Apple's profits stop growing and there is pressure from investors, like what happened at Microsoft. Microsoft didn't use to mine user data either - now Windows 10 is pretty much the equivalent of spyware.
 
It's a good thing Apple (for their own sake) keeps many of us locked in with iMessage or I'm sure many would choose to more fully explore the "other side"
 
You know something is seriously wrong when they change the Android GUI each time a new version is released.
Right? UI is supposed to be stagnant for years and years. Apple does it right. [/sarcasm]

So NYT says it is mediocre and CNET & techcrunch that it is the best phone..

who's right?
Definitely not the New York Times. If they think Google Assistant is dumb, then I would hope they think Siri is a dunce.
 
I wonder how many reviewers evaluated the images on a wider-than-sRGB-gamut display (which includes viewing them on an iPhone 7). Pushing an image to be more saturated on an sRGB display has the risk of saturating some colour channels which doesn't look good.

Im pretty sure they took a photo as though any normal user would and uploaded the results lol
 
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