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No need to access to the entire filesystem, Apple would never allow that to happen. But a shared folder available to all apps, and to the end user via Apple's app, would be great. One could save all its documents on the public folder and make them available to multiple apps, and be able to share them easily from one app.

They have that on the Windows Mobile OS and it's all you really need.
 
Could someone explain what the difference would be between this and iCloud Drive? I can drags files from my desktop into the drive folder and they show up on my iPhone almost straight away? Will this do something different?
 
I know, I am the odd one out here, but for me, that is a step back. Moving back into the world of the 80s as opposed to having a vision for building a computing world of the future where the user does not have to juggle files between physical directories anymore. I have been dealing with computers for 30+ years now, and user interface concepts have changed completely in that time, but the file systems are as dumb as ever and still a burden on the user.

A sad day for computing. If Apple is not going to lead the way here, then who is?

I dont know, opening the app first and then picking the file seems backwards to me and do not even get me started on the whole copies of the same file among different apps mess.

I would very much welcome a file system where i can save a file in whatever folder, click on the file and then be asked what app i would like to open it with
 
opening the app first and then picking the file seems backwards to me

Sure. But if you tap on a photo... how would the phone know if you want to open it in photos.app just to look at it...

...or to open it in SnapSeed to edit it?
 
If Macs are to eventually go the ARM route then at some point won't all/most of the Utility Mac Apps like Activity Monitor, Disk Utility etc etc. all have to be released in the app store as iOS compatible apps?!
No. The CPU in a Mac has no relation to whether the app will run on iOS.
 
I'll admit having a file manager on the iPhone running Phone OS isnt that intriguing. Although, not having a file manager on a tablet that labels itself Pro is beyond pathetic.

Just out of interest: Why do so many think they desperately need the file system? Is there anything they cannot do right now without it?
 
Just out of interest: Why do so many think they desperately need the file system? Is there anything they cannot do right now without it?
Why do people always ask these silly questions? "I have no use for this, so why do other people need it?" Probably for the thousand reasons people have given over and over and over and over and over again I'm guessing.
 
I just think there's way too many white icons on iOS to be honest. Minor annoyance but it was kind of more even in iOS 7 but now with health, home, music (new icon) and now files it's just too much.
 
For people here really wanting a file manager/Finder app... how come no one mentioned Readdle's Documents App?!

It basically does exactly what all of you ask for and want... I've been using it for like 3-5 years or so.
I cannot believe how people are whining 'no file management boohooohoooo' but haven't found this in the process of looking for an alternative.

https://readdle.com/products/documents
 
No. The CPU in a Mac has no relation to whether the app will run on iOS.

I'm not sure you get what I mean. If Apple went to ARM for Macs then they'd probably use a beefed up X variant of what they use now in the iPad Pro's etc. Mac OS would need writing for ARM (Which I'm sure they have internally) and so would all of the support apps that come with Mac OS - they'd work on any 64-bit supported iOS device aside to the new line of macs, rather than be developed for them specifically.
 
For people here really wanting a file manager/Finder app... how come no one mentioned Readdle's Documents App?!

It basically does exactly what all of you ask for and want... I've been using it for like 3-5 years or so.
I cannot believe how people are whining 'no file management boohooohoooo' but haven't found this in the process of looking for an alternative.

https://readdle.com/products/documents
Because people want OS integration, not an app. Really complex stuff, I know.
 
For people here really wanting a file manager/Finder app... how come no one mentioned Readdle's Documents App?!

It basically does exactly what all of you ask for and want... I've been using it for like 3-5 years or so.
I cannot believe how people are whining 'no file management boohooohoooo' but haven't found this in the process of looking for an alternative.

https://readdle.com/products/documents

I use Good Reader, does what everyone moans about as well, it's fantastic! Files I want to transfer and store locally go there, cloud based files are split between Google Drive, Dropbox and iCloud.
 
Why do people always ask these silly questions? "I have no use for this, so why do other people need it?" Probably for the thousand reasons people have given over and over and over and over and over again I'm guessing.

I did start the question with "Just for interest", didn't I? I was genuinely interested. I have never said that I wouldn't need it, nor that I would have no use for it.

I understand that it's more convenient to have access to folders on the device which are available to all apps (+ maybe no waste of storage as apps would use the actual files rather than duplicates), but, apart from that, is there anything else?
 
I did start the question with "Just for interest", didn't I? I was genuinely interested. I have never said that I wouldn't need it, nor that I would have no use for it.

I understand that it's more convenient to have access to folders on the device which are available to all apps (+ maybe no waste of storage as apps would use the actual files rather than duplicates), but, apart from that, is there anything else?
It's existed on Android since Android was a thing. It makes things extremely convenient ... especially with the rising size of storage. Being able to use the iPhone as a portable storage device without needing the cloud would be immensely useful for a lot of reasons. If this also opens the possibility of not needing iTunes to transfer damn near everything to the phone, that would also be a nice perk. It will also open up the ability for developers to be more creative with their apps ... perhaps making them more macOS-like. There's many useful things that this can be used for. But nobody has any idea exactly what this is or what it's for. We'll know soon, I suppose.
 
It's existed on Android since Android was a thing. It makes things extremely convenient ... especially with the rising size of storage. Being able to use the iPhone as a portable storage device without needing the cloud would be immensely useful for a lot of reasons. If this also opens the possibility of not needing iTunes to transfer damn near everything to the phone, that would also be a nice perk. It will also open up the ability for developers to be more creative with their apps ... perhaps making them more macOS-like. There's many useful things that this can be used for. But nobody has any idea exactly what this is or what it's for. We'll know soon, I suppose.

Cheers, that summary is much appreciated!
 
Sure. But if you tap on a photo... how would the phone know if you want to open it in photos.app just to look at it...

...or to open it in SnapSeed to edit it?

Click on the file, in this case the photo > pop up with all installed apps that could handle it > pick the app ypu want to open it with > add another layer to make it the default setting

just like on mac
 
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LOL. How is this any different? There is already a file system called iCloud drive or whatever storage service.
 
Click on the file, in this case the photo > pop up with all installed apps that could handle it > pick the app ypu want to open it with > add another layer to make it the default setting

just like on mac
Good grief ... being able to set default apps like on Android would be a Godsend.

LOL. How is this any different? There is already a file system called iCloud drive or whatever storage service.
iCloud drive is not even remotely what people are wanting. Please don't confuse the two.
 
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I know, I am the odd one out here, but for me, that is a step back. Moving back into the world of the 80s as opposed to having a vision for building a computing world of the future where the user does not have to juggle files between physical directories anymore. I have been dealing with computers for 30+ years now, and user interface concepts have changed completely in that time, but the file systems are as dumb as ever and still a burden on the user.

A sad day for computing. If Apple is not going to lead the way here, then who is?

Well, having a Steve J. photo as your Avatar is telling, maybe you prefer Apple to think for you... S. J. was clever in the sense that he always thought of ways to make his company indispensable for the user. You wanna save a bloody file? Use our cloud. Want to transfer it from your desktop pc to your iPad? Oh, you have to use iTunes software, "isn't it great, it works like magic, it is the world of file transfer in the palm of your hand"...
Irony aside, as many users - even Apple users - have understood by now, an expensive unit without a filesystem is and will remain a hipster toy. Those for whom a file system is too complicated bc they will mess up where to put what can go on using the cloud etc.
What you call "leading the way" is just what I call patronising. Telling the client what is good for him. YUCK!
 
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