Planning ahead when buying a television

[IJ Reilly]

Ah yes, read that earlier today when visiting another forum. Pretty bad comparison. All they really compared was 1080i with 1080p, which should have no difference if the processors are adequate in the TV.

I might note that although ISF puts resolution 4th on the list, it is still a deal/no deal issue for videophiles. Just not as big as 3 other issues.

I'm really not sure what the point of the article is. There are few true 1080p TVs even available for purchase today, and many of those have sub-par processing. Once more TVs like Pioneer's FHD1 plasma or the Sony Ruby are out and being sold, this will be more of an issue to argue about.

The point of the article seems to be that most people will not notice the difference between 1080p and 720p, especially at the smaller screen sizes. This is getting to be in the "no big news" department, because I'm hearing it consistently.

 

[puckhead193]

anyone know anything about westinghouse HDTV?

 

[bousozoku]

The point of the article seems to be that most people will not notice the difference between 1080p and 720p, especially at the smaller screen sizes. This is getting to be in the "no big news" department, because I'm hearing it consistently.

All I've really noticed in the stores is how "digital" images look during quick movement, even in very quick response LCDs. If the image is right, should it matter what the number is?

I'd think wider movies like Laurence of Arabia would be better with 1080p but that's subjective, until proven otherwise.

 

[IJ Reilly]

All I've really noticed in the stores is how "digital" images look during quick movement, even in very quick response LCDs. If the image is right, should it matter what the number is?

I don't suppose it should. I have yet to find a store where a person could compare TVs properly. They usually are all running the same digital feed, and in many cases, you don't even get access to a remote control.

 

[balamw]

All I've really noticed in the stores is how "digital" images look during quick movement, even in very quick response LCDs. If the image is right, should it matter what the number is?

The "digital" effects you are noticing are most likely compression artifacts, and I too find them far more obvious than the difference between 720p and 1080i/p. (Though the step up from 480 to 720 is noticeable on its own.) While the difference between 720p and 1080p is detectable by the human eye, I don't find the differences that obvious for most content, though Lawrence or the English Patient (I don't like the movie, but do like how it looks) might benefit from the higher res.

It sure would be nice if the stores would either have proper high bandwidth HD feeds or allow you to hook up your own feed to the TVs as a matter of testing.... That way you could bring along a Macbook loaded with HD trailers and test it that way...

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[balamw]

jsw hasn't chimed in.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/2332973/

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[bousozoku]

I'm not sure whether they're compression artifacts or the upconversion of most of the players. Either way, it's going to take a while for the digital technology to catch up with film. A proper 70mm negative has a lot of information but I think our brains have learnt to fill in the gaps of 35mm or even t.v. so that conversions just don't look quite right.

10 more years until it's good enough to keep us from complaining or at least, from analysing?

 

[balamw]

I'm not sure whether they're compression artifacts or the upconversion of most of the players. Either way, it's going to take a while for the digital technology to catch up with film. A proper 70mm negative has a lot of information but I think our brains have learnt to fill in the gaps of 35mm or even t.v. so that conversions just don't look quite right.

10 more years until it's good enough to keep us from complaining or at least, from analysing?

I was suggesting compression rather than scaling/upconversion since compresion will be more likely tied to the action of a scene than scaling. When you get fast motion the bitrate needs go up dramatically over relatively static images and so it has to make up for that somewhere. I wouldn't think that scaling would have any relation to what's changing on the screen, unless they're using adjacent frames to semi-artificially bump up the information they have to scale up...

There will always be those who complain.

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