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Please share your 3.0 impressions

Scotty_T said:
My battery did the 10% remaining notice in the early evening. This never happened when on the regular release.
This is definitely going to be a daily issue, at least for Beta 1.

Consider this before installing it.
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Just FYI -- when i installed 3.0 on the watch, battery life was awful. Went from 70 percent to 20 percent in an hour or two.

Then, at home, I unpaired the watch, wiped it, and re-paired it as a new watch with my phone. I also did not install any third-party apps on the phone, to see what would happen with only the stock (presumably optimized by apple) apps.

the difference is stunning. After charging up overnight, I did a 30-minute workout and it went from 100 percent to 97 at 9 am. It's now 2:30 pm and it's at 91 percent. Admittedly, i haven't used many of the apps, but have been getting a steady stream of email / message notifications.

so anyway -- mileage will vary, but if you are having battery problems, you might try what I did and see.

mike
 
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shearm said:
Just FYI -- when i installed 3.0 on the watch, battery life was awful. Went from 70 percent to 20 percent in an hour or two.

Then, at home, I unpaired the watch, wiped it, and re-paired it as a new watch with my phone. I also did not install any third-party apps on the phone, to see what would happen with only the stock (presumably optimized by apple) apps.

the difference is stunning. After charging up overnight, I did a 30-minute workout and it went from 100 percent to 97 at 9 am. It's now 2:30 pm and it's at 91 percent. Admittedly, i haven't used many of the apps, but have been getting a steady stream of email / message notifications.

so anyway -- mileage will vary, but if you are having battery problems, you might try what I did and see.

mike
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Agreed. We get a new feature like the dock and we load it up with apps that refresh in the background and they were designed for older versions. Re-pairing seems to work but we need to experiment with beta products and not complain when it acts poorly. This is beta 1 of a new version.
 
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shearm said:
Just FYI -- when i installed 3.0 on the watch, battery life was awful. Went from 70 percent to 20 percent in an hour or two.

Then, at home, I unpaired the watch, wiped it, and re-paired it as a new watch with my phone. I also did not install any third-party apps on the phone, to see what would happen with only the stock (presumably optimized by apple) apps.

the difference is stunning. After charging up overnight, I did a 30-minute workout and it went from 100 percent to 97 at 9 am. It's now 2:30 pm and it's at 91 percent. Admittedly, i haven't used many of the apps, but have been getting a steady stream of email / message notifications.

so anyway -- mileage will vary, but if you are having battery problems, you might try what I did and see.

mike
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Interesting, keep us updated. May try this later today.
 
If I had a second watch and another phone, I'd try out the beta software.

But I don't, so I'll just watch what happens.

I'm at least a little curious about detailed big reports, though. General whining isn't productive at all.
 
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BarracksSi said:
If I had a second watch and another phone, I'd try out the beta software.

But I don't, so I'll just watch what happens.

I'm at least a little curious about detailed big reports, though. General whining isn't productive at all.
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Yes, we know. We already saw your thread where you complained about the complainers.

That was real helpful. /sarcasm

Are you new here? This stuff happens every year....just gotta learn to get over it.
 
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batting1000 said:
Yes, we know. We already saw your thread where you complained about the complainers.

That was real helpful. /sarcasm

Are you new here? This stuff happens every year....just gotta learn to get over it.
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Complaining about the complaints about the complainers. That happens every year too. Irony much?
 
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Just installed the beta, 3 days ago. Same impressions about speed and battery life. Before, I always get 50% before putting it on the charger and going to bed. Now its down to 20% @ 10pm (7am removal from charger). Performance-wise I love it. I appreciated the app-switcher instantly and apps are infinitely more useful now because of the short/non existent load times. Since I mostly work from home, the battery life downside is not as annoying. Although I can see myself missing those days where I'll be able to leave my charger at home during those overnight business trips out of town. I usually just put it in low power mode at night with enough juice to last me until my trip home the next day.
 
Had it on the watch since day one, as stated in this thread earlier, but lately it has been acting up a lot again. The screen just refuses to come on sometimes requiring a hard restart. Sometimes when it doesn't want to come on I can push the dash board button and it will slowly decide to come on. Finally, getting a few random restarts. Still don't really care, I knew what I was getting into.
 
I have had it since day one as well, haven't had any major issues. Apps crashes every once in a while, especially when launching them, but that's nothing new. Been like that since watchOS1. Resuming the apps works smooth more or less every time. The device has rebooted couple times and once I had to force restart it. Battery has been good after I switched from Analog Activity watch face to another watch face. Numerals watch face is especially good for battery. I have about 70% left at the end of the day with light usage even though I have it on my wrist at least 12 hours per day.

Watch faces - and especially the complications - have huge impact on the battery. Each complication app is given 50 background refreshes per day. Modular watch face has 5 complications so that's 250 background refreshes per day. Numerals has only one complication.

Analog Activity watch face is the worst, at least for now. I don't know if there are some bugs or if the behind-scenes-design is bad or something. It for example animates the activity rings every time the screen wakes up. So if you happen to intentionally or unintentionally activate the screen (Wrist Raise + arm movement = lots of unintentional screen activations) every 5 minutes that's about 12 times per hour and that times 12 hours is 144 times per day. So it will animate the rings about 150 times per day. It also has 3 complications so that adds 150 background refreshes per day to the mix. I usually had about 10 to 20% battery left at the end of the day with Analog Activity watch face.
 
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shearm said:
Just FYI -- when i installed 3.0 on the watch, battery life was awful. Went from 70 percent to 20 percent in an hour or two.

Then, at home, I unpaired the watch, wiped it, and re-paired it as a new watch with my phone. I also did not install any third-party apps on the phone, to see what would happen with only the stock (presumably optimized by apple) apps.

the difference is stunning. After charging up overnight, I did a 30-minute workout and it went from 100 percent to 97 at 9 am. It's now 2:30 pm and it's at 91 percent. Admittedly, i haven't used many of the apps, but have been getting a steady stream of email / message notifications.

so anyway -- mileage will vary, but if you are having battery problems, you might try what I did and see.

mike
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Thanks for the update. I may try this myself
 
My Watch has slowly descended into being unusable. I'm not complaining because I knew it was risky to update it so will hold out hope for a good update on Monday/Tuesday. Battery life is 1 day not 2 but main issue is stability. As someone else has mentioned sometimes it refuses to wake again and has to be reset, sometimes it freezes for 20 minutes before resetting itself.

Wait for Beta 2.
 
teidon said:
Analog Activity watch face is the worst, at least for now. I don't know if there are some bugs or if the behind-scenes-design is bad or something. It for example animates the activity rings every time the screen wakes up. So if you happen to intentionally or unintentionally activate the screen (Wrist Raise + arm movement = lots of unintentional screen activations) every 5 minutes that's about 12 times per hour and that times 12 hours is 144 times per day. So it will animate the rings about 150 times per day. It also has 3 complications so that adds 150 background refreshes per day to the mix. I usually had about 10 to 20% battery left at the end of the day with Analog Activity watch face.
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Is there still an Accessibility option to reduce animations? Does it change the behavior of the Analog Activity face?
 
BarracksSi said:
Is there still an Accessibility option to reduce animations? Does it change the behavior of the Analog Activity face?
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That option still exists but the rings will be animated with it on.

Regardless what that option is set to the rings won't be animated if you turn off the screen and turn it on immediately. I don't know what the threshold is but I think if the screen is off for minute or two the rings will animated again.

RadioGaGa1984 said:
There has never been a public beta for watchOS. Unless they can come up with a way for the end user to restore to a non beta OS it likely will not happen.
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I think the reason is that the watch doesn't have sufficient failsafe operating system that can make a Bluetooth connection to iPhone. iPhone has a failsafe operating system that can always boot up regardless how badly you mess up your device. That failsafe OS can always make a wired connection to a computer so that you can always (or almost always) restore the phone to fully functioning state. I think that is the reason why iPhone has public betas and AWatch doesn't.
 
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Perhaps Apple should allow devs access to the diagnostic cables and a way to reset via that port?
 
skwood said:
Perhaps Apple should allow devs access to the diagnostic cables and a way to reset via that port?
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In a year or two when Apple changes all their OS's over to their new file system APFS it could potentially allow rolling back watchOS.

It was kinda briefly mentioned in the Gruber interview the day after WWDC when Craig Federighi talked a bit about APFS. One of the things he said about it, is that it would be easier and possible to roll back files and even the OS (wasn't specific to watchOS in his comment)
 
lagwagon said:
In a year or two when Apple changes all their OS's over to their new file system APFS it could potentially allow rolling back watchOS.

It was kinda briefly mentioned in the Gruber interview the day after WWDC when Craig Federighi talked a bit about APFS. One of the things he said about it, is that it would be easier and possible to roll back files and even the OS (wasn't specific to watchOS in his comment)
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Interesting...
 
lagwagon said:
In a year or two when Apple changes all their OS's over to their new file system APFS it could potentially allow rolling back watchOS.

It was kinda briefly mentioned in the Gruber interview the day after WWDC when Craig Federighi talked a bit about APFS. One of the things he said about it, is that it would be easier and possible to roll back files and even the OS (wasn't specific to watchOS in his comment)
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So I don't know anything about APFS, but does that mean iOS has moved to it but wOS hasn't (as you can already roll back iOS)? Otherwise, it may not mean much.
 
JayLenochiniMac said:
So I don't know anything about APFS, but does that mean iOS has moved to it but wOS hasn't (as you can already roll back iOS)? Otherwise, it may not mean much.
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Nothing has moved onto APFS yet, it's not finished. You can test APFS on a separate partition if you're running Sierra. But you can't boot to it or run an OS from it yet (again it's in early-ish development and not due to debut for another year or two)

It's not the same as iOS being able to revert back, because that's simply downloading a full ipsw file and installing it. I don't know all the in depth details, but basically it has cloning (or versioning?) automatically and can roll back much easier.
 
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