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Please someone make a touchscreen COMPUTER with a real OS!
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Ah, choice is beautiful.
It's either the pit of screaming agony, or the dungeon of eternal sorrow.
With your choice of salad.
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Slate-EP121-1A011M-12-1-Inch-Tablet/dp/B004HKIIF8
More functionality than iPad could even dream in it's wildest dreams.
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Because every single product that did not leave Apple's land of pure genius is a piece of crap, amirite??
More functionality than iPad could even dream in it's wildest dreams.
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Because every single product that did not leave Apple's land of pure genius is a piece of crap, amirite??
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I agree ApplesAOranges. Had my iPad a month now and am disappointed with it overall. Nice little (expensive) play toy, but not a real useful computer. Lack of good file system and full USB support really a big drawback for me. Only app I have so far that helps is Ifile. Hate that you have to use work arounds to make the IPad more usefull. I will say it is a well made device, and it is great for web surfing. If I had it to do over I would deffinately look at an android device. You will find it hard to get any sympathy here on an apple forum, to many koolaid drinkers!
I´m sick of these toy OSs that can´t do ANYTHING USEFUL!!!
I would love nothing but to get my hands into a tablet device with a real OS. OS X preferably, ´cause I love OS X, but even Windows would do for now and that´s saying a lot!
Come one people, innovate!!!
And yet you've apparently not got any of the Windows tablets that have been around for 8 or so years already? What's the use of complaining people aren't innovating in the way you'd like when it turns out that they actually are and you just haven't noticed.
Ok, here was my beef with iPad. Maybe it belongs to this thread, maybe not, but this is what pushed me over the edge. I've pre-ordered Transformer Prime and picking it up on Friday. iPad will be a christmas gift to my girlfriend, who really doesn't even care about it.
I was on a week-long trip to another city. I loaded up some movies on iPad, took more TV shows on external HDD for the laptop. During the trip, I hurt my leg, and was mostly hotel-bound for the rest of the trip. Needless to say, movies were watched, and TV shows started. By the time I had to go home, I ran out of things on iPad, and it was a fairly long plane ride.
I tried to connect iPad to laptop, but that was no go. For some idiotic reason, I can only sync it to one computer. My computer I can sync with is in NYC, few thousand miles away. I had video player app that has wifi transfer, but due to hotel using AP isolation, wifi devices cannot see each other. I ended up setting up wifi tether on my phone, connect both laptop and ipad to it and transfer it that way. It took quite a bit longer, but finally worked.
Now, can someone explain to me why iPad, designed to be nice and simple, does nothing but get in my way? No multitasking is a killer on slow WiFi. Syncing to one device only is a pain. Apps? There's not a SINGLE APP that I cannot function without
I like to do more with a tablet than play Angry birds and watch YouTube. And that's the reason I am dumping iPad like a bad habit. Going back to my Video transfer example, on Android device, it's a simply a matter of drag and drop.
I was on a week-long trip to another city. I loaded up some movies on iPad, took more TV shows on external HDD for the laptop. During the trip, I hurt my leg, and was mostly hotel-bound for the rest of the trip. Needless to say, movies were watched, and TV shows started. By the time I had to go home, I ran out of things on iPad, and it was a fairly long plane ride.
I tried to connect iPad to laptop, but that was no go. For some idiotic reason, I can only sync it to one computer. My computer I can sync with is in NYC, few thousand miles away. I had video player app that has wifi transfer, but due to hotel using AP isolation, wifi devices cannot see each other. I ended up setting up wifi tether on my phone, connect both laptop and ipad to it and transfer it that way. It took quite a bit longer, but finally worked.
Now, can someone explain to me why iPad, designed to be nice and simple, does nothing but get in my way? No multitasking is a killer on slow WiFi. Syncing to one device only is a pain. Apps? There's not a SINGLE APP that I cannot function without
I like to do more with a tablet than play Angry birds and watch YouTube. And that's the reason I am dumping iPad like a bad habit. Going back to my Video transfer example, on Android device, it's a simply a matter of drag and drop.
The reason, I believe, is to prevent people from pirating. If you could sync iPad with more than one computer, I could go to a friend's house and copy his entire music/video library to my iPad, and he could do the same with my music/videos.
The ModBook is precisely what the OP asked for, a tablet with OSX. The downside is it isn't touchscreen and requires a stylus, but OSX was never built to be touch-friendly. I have to say that an Air version of the ModBook with a touch screen would be pretty fantastic especially with Dashboard widgets as a basic front-end.
Many people have already put the early builds of Windows 8 on that Slate I posted and it apparently works great.
But it does make sense that people may own more than 1 computer? I guess if some kind of "Authorize Sync Computer" function was available, things would be much easier.
And to go around that "piracy protection" is just a matter of putting all of friend's music/video on a USB storage, take it home and sync that way. So they are not solving anything that way.
I do travel a lot, and pre-loading content on my home PC and hope I do not run out is my only hope, for now.
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There are apps out there that turn your home computer (and the drives connected to it) into a personal server that can be accessed by your iPad remotely. I'm not talking about a VNC client like iTeleport, either.
I'm in the process of researching some of these solutions. I already know that Air Video has the movie end of it covered nicely.
It's a great idea who keeps iPad as a "coffee table device" if you will. But for a frequent traveler, not so much.
Which ones did you come across?
PRE-ORDER (SHIPS THIS FALL)
$199.99
Estimated -ships in 3 weeks
Wait, what?
So, I need to spend another $200, "Pre-order" a product that's past it's shipping date, and after all of that, probably need to convert videos to play.
I believe Seagate has a similar product, but I want a simple drag and drop operation. And without managing 2 batteries (iPad and HDD)
So far, Here File, File, . . . not bad, but not very reliable.
The good news is that since Air Video covers movies and videos, a companion app need only cover other formats, which isn't a great load.
There used to be iGet Mobile. http://www.nakahara-informatics.com/igetmobile/
But it looks like it hasn't been updated in a while.
Well, in the scenario you described you can certainly "drag and drop" from your laptop. You just need to set your iPad up correctly and check "Manually manage music and videos" on your Options in iTunes. You can then drag and drop media files directly to the iPad (assuming you have a computer with iTunes on it). As for other formats, you can't use the video player but you can use Oplayer or other 3rd party viewers.
Except for iTunes Store videos.
http://www.inmethod.com/air-video/troubleshooting.html
"Air Video refuses to play some of my M4V/MP4/MOV files purchased from iTunes store.
The files are probably DRM protected. Apple doesn't permit playing such files over network."
But at 3x the weight and 1/4 the battery life of an iPad.
Not saying it's not a worthwhile tool if the job requires it, but as a carry-it-around-at-all-times device it's basically bigger than an 11" MacBook Air.
Windows 7 slates have horrible sales outside a few specific niche uses.
Windows 8 tablets (and whatever version of iOS we're on by then) running on ARM processors with battery life and size footprints of an iPad will eventually get there. But for now, anything more "functional" than an iPad is basically a laptop missing a keyboard. Not exactly the panacea of mobile computing.
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Well if the VNC apps work and there´s MBA, I don´t see a problem to make a OS X tablet. Just make Mac, but with a touch screen, what´s the freaking problem? MacBooks already have basically a touchscreen, except you use the touchpad to point and click.
Now that would be innovation to have a Mac with a touchscreen! Not some freaking toy that can´t do ANYTHING! Except maybe to play Angry Birds! *FACEPALM*
I can´t even use the search feature on forums with the iOS Safari, it´s RIDICULOUS!!!
Now that would be innovation to have a Mac with a touchscreen! Not some freaking toy that can´t do ANYTHING! Except maybe to play Angry Birds! *FACEPALM*
I can´t even use the search feature on forums with the iOS Safari, it´s RIDICULOUS!!!
Check the link I already posted on the first page, not to mention others have mentioned the modbook. It is OSX on a converted Mac. Been out for years. But it is not $500. And not sure why you can't use the search feature, since I am more than capable of using it on my iPad. 2 years with my iPad and it has excellent functionality. But I also bought it knowing it's limitations first. Worked at getting it set up to do what I wanted for both work and casual use.
Have used both windows and that modbook....would prefer the iPad, for my touch screen device at this point. Smaller and does what I need it to do, and battery life is great.
Seems iPad isn't for you. But as someone else said, check out what is already out there. But remember ther are limitations to those as well, since the OS running on them is not set up for touch.
Uh, the search feature works just fine on every forum I've browsed on my iPad.
Have you ever actually used iOS?
Wow, looks like I stumbled into the complaint department.
I just don't see that some of these beefs are valid. Why would anyone want to watch a YouTube video at the same time as browsing the web, especially on a 9" screen? As for running out of video content on a long trip, there are several technical workarounds (Airvideo server, using a NAS that supports remote access) plus the radical idea of actually buying a movie or TV show from iTunes.....
Complaining that the iPad doesn't let you mess with the file system is like complaining that your steak doesn't taste like fish. True: but you should have known that when you ordered it.
I just don't see that some of these beefs are valid. Why would anyone want to watch a YouTube video at the same time as browsing the web, especially on a 9" screen? As for running out of video content on a long trip, there are several technical workarounds (Airvideo server, using a NAS that supports remote access) plus the radical idea of actually buying a movie or TV show from iTunes.....
Complaining that the iPad doesn't let you mess with the file system is like complaining that your steak doesn't taste like fish. True: but you should have known that when you ordered it.
i feel your pain. it seems like it would be so easy to just put in a regular os. but, it's not. that's why no one has been able to do a good job of it.
so, we have an os that is less capable than osx. we also have a low-powered processor. so what? i can still do my work on the ipad (content creation and content consumption). there is a lot more than angry birds out there. see the threads i have started (my profile) for use cases.
anyhow, the search problem is one in the safari app and has nothing to do with the os. use a different browsing app and you'll have the search feature. no big deal.
maybe your complaint is that you don't know exactly how you are supposed to use the ipad, what apps to buy to make it work, and what potential it has.
Come on! The search feature was just one minor example what I can´t do with iOS (or with the "iOS´s Safari").
There´s literally thousands of things what I can´t do with iOS, that I can do with OS X.
iOS is a joke. It´s an OS for little kids and I mean under 6 year olds.
It´s no suprise, that most of the replies here are defensive, apologetic and just pure denial, but in the real world 99% of the people I talk to agree with me. THEY ALL want a touchscreen OS that can do more than play Angry Birds.
There´s literally thousands of things what I can´t do with iOS, that I can do with OS X.
iOS is a joke. It´s an OS for little kids and I mean under 6 year olds.
It´s no suprise, that most of the replies here are defensive, apologetic and just pure denial, but in the real world 99% of the people I talk to agree with me. THEY ALL want a touchscreen OS that can do more than play Angry Birds.