Please someone make a touchscreen COMPUTER with a real OS!

[palpatine]

Come on! The search feature was just one minor example what I can´t do with iOS (or with the "iOS´s Safari").

There´s literally thousands of things what I can´t do with iOS, that I can do with OS X.

iOS is a joke. It´s an OS for little kids and I mean under 6 year olds.

It´s no suprise, that most of the replies here are defensive, apologetic and just pure denial, but in the real world 99% of the people I talk to agree with me. THEY ALL want a touchscreen OS that can do more than play Angry Birds.

it does a lot more than angry birds. please read some of the numerous threads, including the ones i have started, about the ipad's potential. it's not defensive, apologetic, and denial. at this point, it's calling you out for underestimating the ipad and refusing to read.

now, i am going back to getting things done with my ipad using evernote, pages, iannotate, and all sorts of other really incredible apps. you can continue your ranting if you'd like.

 

[Capt T]

Come on! The search feature was just one minor example what I can´t do with iOS (or with the "iOS´s Safari").

There´s literally thousands of things what I can´t do with iOS, that I can do with OS X.

iOS is a joke. It´s an OS for little kids and I mean under 6 year olds.

It´s no suprise, that most of the replies here are defensive, apologetic and just pure denial, but in the real world 99% of the people I talk to agree with me. THEY ALL want a touchscreen OS that can do more than play Angry Birds.

Maybe you should set up an one to one appointment to learn how to use your iPad. And if you want to give an example of what doesn't work...then pick something that doesn't work...search works so bad example.


My comment at this point is...you should have done your homework before buying. I know what it does and doesnt do....you obviously from your posts don't. So either learn to use what you have, and work it to it's strengths or sell it. Simple as that. But to say search doesn't work when it does....pretty much says you either haven't used one and came in here to troll, or you need help learning how to use it, or it really isn't for you( and that is ok). But don't tell us what you think it doesn't do and then tell us we are defensive, apologetic and just pure denial ( stop looking in the mirror we are not you because that is what you are doing). We know it works and we know what it can and can't do, hence us hanging out in this forum. So do your homework if you want to come in here and tell us how it is.

 

[fertilized-egg]

in the real world 99% of the people I talk to agree with me. THEY ALL want a touchscreen OS that can do more than play Angry Birds.

You've asked for a "tablet device with a real OS." OK. Such devices exist, like the ASUS one meanee showed while claiming "More functionality than iPad could even dream in it's wildest dreams" and have been there for a decade.

If 99% of the people "in the real world" agree with you, why is that all Windows-based tablets been mostly failures? Perhaps that market just isn't as big as you think it is?

 

[newdeal]

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These already exist. They run windows 7 with atom cpus and as such performance and battery life is horrible. Once windows 8 is compatible with ARM cpus you will get your wish although performance likely still won't be great but ARM cpus are speeding up pretty quickly so in a year or two it will be acceptable

 

[jsh1120]

These already exist. They run windows 7 with atom cpus and as such performance and battery life is horrible. Once windows 8 is compatible with ARM cpus you will get your wish although performance likely still won't be great but ARM cpus are speeding up pretty quickly so in a year or two it will be acceptable

Actually, the Lenovo X220T has a Sandy Bridge quadcore processsor that runs over three times faster than the iPad, a 12.4 inch screen, an SSD over twice the size of the iPad's storage, and up to 16 times the memory of the iPad 2. Its matte finish touch screen works with a pressure sensitive stylus and it has one of the best keyboards in the industry. Its battery lasts about 9 hours and with an optional slice battery that can be extended to about 16 hours.

If you're willing to pay a premium of about $500-$700 over the price of an iPad you can have a touchscreen computer with a real OS now.

 

[APlotdevice]

Actually, the Lenovo X220T has a Sandy Bridge quadcore processsor that runs over three times faster than the iPad, a 12.4 inch screen, an SSD over twice the size of the iPad's storage, and up to 16 times the memory of the iPad 2. Its matte finish touch screen works with a pressure sensitive stylus and it has one of the best keyboards in the industry. Its battery lasts about 9 hours and with an optional slice battery that can be extended to about 16 hours.

If you're willing to pay a premium of about $500-$700 over the price of an iPad you can have a touchscreen computer with a real OS now.

It also weighs three times as much.

 

[apunkrockmonk]

Come on! The search feature was just one minor example what I can´t do with iOS (or with the "iOS´s Safari").

There´s literally thousands of things what I can´t do with iOS, that I can do with OS X.

iOS is a joke. It´s an OS for little kids and I mean under 6 year olds.

It´s no suprise, that most of the replies here are defensive, apologetic and just pure denial, but in the real world 99% of the people I talk to agree with me. THEY ALL want a touchscreen OS that can do more than play Angry Birds.

Ummmmm.... I was using Macs under the age of 6. I started on Mac OS 7.

Here we are now, I'm 24. Typing this on an iPad that I use much more frequently then all of my computers combined.

 

[jsh1120]

It also weighs three times as much.

And that's because design is always a set of compromises and priorities. The OP asked for a "touchscreen computer." Meeting that requirement calls for considerably more horsepower than the iPad (or any tablet) can currently provide.

It's not a question of manufacturers failing to recognize that a market for a touchscreen computer exists. It's that providing real computing power and features along with touchscreen capabilities is not just a question of sending the requirements to the factory where it can be magically produced.

 

[hchavarria]

I actually am happy with my iOS device I had a touch screen with a "real" OS I had an HP Slate which has windows 7 and gave it up for my iPad 2 and wouldn't go back. There isn't something that I cant do on my iPad that I wouldn't prefer to do on my desktop or laptop. My iPad has allowed me to skip carrying my laptop and has even replaced my work laptop since I can do almost everything from there. Anything more and I just use my desktop.

 

[saberahul]

I´m sick of these toy OSs that can´t do ANYTHING USEFUL!!!

I would love nothing but to get my hands into a tablet device with a real OS. OS X preferably, ´cause I love OS X, but even Windows would do for now and that´s saying a lot!

Come one people, innovate!!!

Go buy yourself a HP tablet PC which runs windows on it. Smile and celebrate for the first 3 months about how it is a real computer and has a touchscreen. Cry for the next decade thinking how you bought something that absolutely sucks and constantly freezes.

 

[Arhude]

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It's a gimmick. Can you imagine doing any amount of work at a desk with your arm extended out to use a touchscreen? That's a recipe for RSI.

Yes I can imagine it. I used it and it works great. You don't sit there with your arm out indefinitely. You reach down and type. Sometimes you use a mouse or a trackpad, and sometimes, you reach up and do things on the screen. If you haven't tried it for real, don't knock it. As I said in another thread, it's actually good to move your arms around a bit. Maybe then they wouldn't get so flabby on a lot of people and we wouldn't have so much carpal tunnel. Of course, it's not for everyone. Some people liked those ridiculous IBM pointer buttons in the middle of their keyboards. I couldn't stand them.

Like LTD said, current desktop OSes are not designed for touchscreens. As much as you think that's what you want, it's just not viable at this point. Be patient though, it's a concept just waiting for someone to get it right.

Windows 7 is partly designed for it, though it's a bit of an afterthought. I would hope Win 8 will be much better at it. I had a recent Acer touchscreen laptop that was NOT a tablet and I liked it, but it was not a Mac. I'm sure if Apple would put their minds to it, they could do it right. I wish they would implement at least basic touchscreen support, like Windows, so those of us with touchscreen monitors on our desktop could take advantage of some of those great Lion gestures right on the screen and not just on the trackpad.

And yes, I have an iPad too.

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And that's because design is always a set of compromises and priorities. The OP asked for a "touchscreen computer." Meeting that requirement calls for considerably more horsepower than the iPad (or any tablet) can currently provide.

It's not a question of manufacturers failing to recognize that a market for a touchscreen computer exists. It's that providing real computing power and features along with touchscreen capabilities is not just a question of sending the requirements to the factory where it can be magically produced.

Touchscreen ability doesn't require any extra computing power. It's just another form of input like a trackpad or mouse. So instead of thinking turning IOS into a real computer, think adding touchscreen to OSX. The key is designing the OS to be more fat finger friendly. And it doesn't have to be built into the "original" computer hardware - there are some fantastic, relatively low-cost touchscreen desktop monitors out there (my Acer T231H is a prime example) that could be used right now with Mac OSX....if they only built that capability into it. It seems to me it wouldn't be that big of a leap since they are already moving in that direction with the trackpad gestures.
The original post did say portable, though, so for me, the the MacBook Air would be a perfect candidate (which would of course require a hardware change to make it a portable touchsreen computer). I find myself reaching up and touching the screen all the time after using my iPad. You don't have to have it in a tablet configuration, although that would be optimal. As I've carried my MBA around, I've imagined it as a touchscreen, with the screen just folding all the way back on itself, and then I sigh.

 

[APlotdevice]

^Technically a capacitive touchscreen does require some extra computing power. Far, far more than a mouse or resistive touchscreen anyway. This is because the sensor itself is analog rather than digital, meaning that it doesn't just give a definitive set of coordinates of where you touch. The system has to process the data and figure out where it is getting the strongest signal(s). This is also why capacitive tocuhscreens have trouble detecting very small points: To avoid false signals from electrical interference it ignores anything below a certain threshold.

 

[davedvdy]

Come on! The search feature was just one minor example what I can´t do with iOS (or with the "iOS´s Safari").

There´s literally thousands of things what I can´t do with iOS, that I can do with OS X.

iOS is a joke. It´s an OS for little kids and I mean under 6 year olds.

It´s no suprise, that most of the replies here are defensive, apologetic and just pure denial, but in the real world 99% of the people I talk to agree with me. THEY ALL want a touchscreen OS that can do more than play Angry Birds.

iPad has a 90%+ customer satisfaction rating. Those of us that have one know its limitations but are quite aware of what it is better at. You were given other options that do exist.

Where are you getting your numbers "99% of people u talked to?"

As Steve Jobs mentioned, iPad is one of the most successful products ever. iOS is certainly not a joke and with many millions sold, many more would disagree with your assertions than agree that its "for 6 yr olds".

There are many other incredible games and apps besides Angry Birds as well. Lol

 

[saberahul]

Come on! The search feature was just one minor example what I can´t do with iOS (or with the "iOS´s Safari").

There´s literally thousands of things what I can´t do with iOS, that I can do with OS X.

iOS is a joke. It´s an OS for little kids and I mean under 6 year olds.

It´s no suprise, that most of the replies here are defensive, apologetic and just pure denial, but in the real world 99% of the people I talk to agree with me. THEY ALL want a touchscreen OS that can do more than play Angry Birds.

Funny... I talk to a LOT of people due to the specific nature of my work and while some have complained of this issue, majority seem to disagree with it, like me. In essence, I would say about 2% of all the people I have spoken with agree with this. iOS is quite powerful in its own ways. You do not have to like it or even buy the device if it does not suit you. For others, people like me, it allows me to consistently send out my invoices, redirect my packaging and my shipments so they can meet my clients needs, complete transactions on the fly through Square and the free app, and much more. In general, I use the iPad for a lot more work than I do on my MBP. Yes, I use the MBP for many things as well (such as CAD, Maya, MudBox, Inventor - through windows) and many more however i can simply export all in iPad format to show to my clients. Bottom line: each has their own use... no one is forcing you to buy a product that does not meet your needs. Honestly speaking, I find your rant somewhat immature as you're making the assumption that everyone in here has the same needs/problems as you.