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Plex Tripling Lifetime Plex Pass Price to $750 in July
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The only thing in common with plex/infuse/etc is ffmpeg (even netflix uses ffmpeg).
Everything else is me, since last November, working pretty tirelessly thinking I'd have it done much sooner. hah.
Dolby Vision was especially challenging -- I had to rewrite the Vulkan stack (GPU stuff) that isn't compatible with Apple Silicon to get it working properly. (Which is why, last I checked, VLC still can't play Dolby Vision Profile 5 on Apple Silicon)
The backend started as a Pocketbase app https://pocketbase.io and the rest is implemented as Go extensions
The web frontend is Qwik, which is known for being fast and efficient. no flickering. server rendered pages with social unfurling. I really do obsess over these details. https://qwik.dev
The native frontend is SwiftUI
I'll work on Android if there is interest but I expect the web app can get you really far since Android tends to treat Web Apps with respect
It achieves a direct QUIC connection via UDP hole punching https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDP_hole_punching
So if your network were to disallow UDP, then these direct connections will not work.
In that case, the relay would need to proxying the traffic. The difference is invisible to the user of the app. (note: The data being proxied is encrypted and the relay can't read it)
Indulge your curiosity on the nitty-gritty details at https://docs.iroh.computer/what-is-iroh
I plan to operate a free/public relay (with bandwidth limits) that enables p2p connectivity/discovery.
If you're in the edge case that needs to proxy through the relay, I'll also offer instructions to deploy your own.
The premium tier will offer something turn-key
Requirements to run your own relay:
The server should have IPV4 and IPV6 addresses. If it has just has one or the other, only those clients will succeed. I successfully used a Cloudflare Tunnel as the entry point and it worked, but it is probably a violation of their ToS if it's proxying large amounts of data.
Does Jellyfin have any issues with 4K MKV files on Plex AppleTV? I have infuse just to play my small stack of those with Plex's issues there...
JoeShades
macrumors 68000
Without adding something or doing something extra, that doesn't work. Please can you detail what you are doing to make that work? I understand you do not have PlexPass (or Plex Remote Watch Pass), which is required for remote access, and Infuse cannot get around that. Are you adding a VPN? Doing something else? Please expand.
JoeShades
macrumors 68000
I have had Infuse connected to plex for a long time, when i try and play something now through plex it gives me the message i need to get remote pass, but when i go through infuse no problem, what happens when you try? I don't have A vpn, could just be a mistake on their part with my account. I had SIRIUSXM trial 5 years ago, cancelled but still access Sirius no problem through my echo, so that is obviously a mistake, so who knows with this
I have PlexPass, so can't test, but the documented evidence that doesn't (or, shouldn't) work is very high. Interesting. Don't tell anyone. 🙂
JoeShades
macrumors 68000
Yeah I thought I read that 3rd party apps were blocked without remote pass but i have no problem, I have an account on plex forums with different username and have not said anything
IIRC, Infuse basically uses Plex only for library management while handling the actual playback itself. So if your Plex server is already remotely reachable (port forwarding, VPN, Tailscale, etc.), Infuse can stream directly from it without relying much on Plex’s own remote streaming system or Plex Pass features.
So technically you’re still using Plex server, just not the official Plex app for playback.
Yup, my local AI buddy tells me this will be better enforced with Plex as they improve API use / functionality.
WannaGoMac
macrumors 68030
From screenshots it looks like you’ve made Plex reborn without all the crud they added over the years ? Is this your day job or you did this on the side cause it’s very impressive for one person
rhett7660
macrumors G5
Or the start pushing more ads and stuff aka anything that is theirs that I can't disable... So I am looking at the whole streaming service, dvr, on-demand stuff that they are pushing or if they get desperate for ad revenue and force ads before my content. I ONLY watch and listen to my content. That is what I mean...
Jellyfin is not a "finished" as Plex when it comes to remote viewing... at least in my opinion.
Are you saying Plex has ads now? Sorry, I’m not sure what you are saying. When I (and my users) use Plex, there are exactly zero ads. Please clarify.
eltoslightfoot
macrumors 68040
That is true. For most iOS, iPadOS, and AppleTV, I use infuse with my Jellyfin.
"without all the crud they added over the years" -- yes! exactly.
I've been working on it as a self-employed full time job since last year.
Even if it doesn't take off, I will likely continue to develop/use it for the rest of my life.
I'm not the person you responded to, but https://plex.tv is a page covered in content that is streaming on Plex. All of that content is ad supported. Accessing your own library isn't even mentioned on Plex's homepage anymore. -- but I assume the confusion is that we don't see ads when we watch our own content? Especially not if you have a plex pass.
They're also selling all of your data: https://www.plex.tv/vendors-us/ -- the list is much longer than I expected (100 named companies they resell to). Those companies also use that data to feed back into ad targeting systems (outside of the Plex platform).
Only if you’re playing plex provided content, not your own. Like “live tv” or “movies and shows” that stream from Plex, not your own.
Understood; I’m very clear that when I watch Plex’s (the company’s) content, there will be ads, as the content must be supported somehow.
When I watch my content, there are zero ads.
eltoslightfoot
macrumors 68040
The data selling was the part with which I was not comfortable. And they changed that years ago. Bye, Plex.
Cave Man
macrumors 604
Wow, I went to that link and it explains what to do; however, it doesn't appear to show HOW to get to that page to set options. Maybe I'm obtuse but do you have the location of where I can check/change those settings?
I had the same reaction -- you have to login, and then it changes to reflect your account's state. I think there's a subtle link somewhere above the form
Thanks! Went to the page, clicked ‘all no’. Took 20 seconds. Appreciate the link!