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Plex Tripling Lifetime Plex Pass Price to $750 in July

interesting move for a software that, I assume, is used by most users to manage a library of pirated material. Maybe those folks are also just pirating the plex software too 🤷‍♂️

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genzai said:
interesting move for a software that, I assume, is used by most users to manage a library of pirated material. Maybe those folks are also just pirating the plex software too 🤷‍♂️

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For consumers, music ownership became popular in the 1920s with the mass production of vinyl records and record players. It peaked between the 1950s and 1990s via physical formats (LPs, cassettes, and CDs).

It's says something about our society that ownership is now perceived as theft.
 
In a thread on this subject a couple days ago somebody says they’re using google storage and vlc player for the same purpose as plex.
 
jmonster said:
For consumers, music ownership became popular in the 1920s with the mass production of vinyl records and record players. It peaked between the 1950s and 1990s via physical formats (LPs, cassettes, and CDs).

It's says something about our society that ownership is now perceived as theft.
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I mean... do you know anything about Plex and the MP4 and MKVs it serves up?

I'll give you a hint, precious few Plex users are doing their own bluray encodes.
 
Blackstick said:
I mean... do you know anything about Plex and the MP4 and MKVs it serves up?

I'll give you a hint, precious few Plex users are doing their own bluray encodes.
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Much like computers themselves, how you use a given technology is up to you; that doesn't fundamentally mean the technology is flawed. But I do concur with jmonster - you're demonizing those who own media, at least to some extent. Why?

And asking "do you know anything about Plex..." to the author (read - programmer) of a similar product is rich, to say the least.
 
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foo2 said:
Are you saying Plex has ads now? Sorry, I’m not sure what you are saying. When I (and my users) use Plex, there are exactly zero ads. Please clarify.
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I am not saying they do... I am saying "IF or WHEN" they do... Or if they don't allow me to continue to remove/disable/hide the other services like the DVR, like the live tv, or Tidel... Then I will look.
 
foo2 said:
It's not a mistake. They're betting most users will buy the subscription, and they're perfectly happy with that. As an ongoing business, subscriptions are where it's at - reliable, repeatable money coming in.
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Right; that's why I said it was my opinion. I trust they did research before making this decision.
It just seems tripling the price - no matter what product - is fairly drastic, wouldn't you say?

And I agree about revenue / subscriptions. For an app like plex, it's a lot more justifiable; they roll out fixes & significant new features fairly regularly.

Anyway, I love plex! I'm so glad I got my pass for $150!!! 😂
 
Henry762 said:
Right; that's why I said it was my opinion. I trust they did research before making this decision.
It just seems tripling the price - no matter what product - is fairly drastic, wouldn't you say?
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Honestly, no. They want to emphasize the subscription model.
 
LogicalApex said:
That's the trend right now...

Even Apple has gone that route... You can no longer buy Apple Care+ without a subscription even...
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Since AppleCare+ (or any warranty) is the definition of something with a defined and finite lifetime, I'm not sure you're making your point. It's _always_ been this way, but now you have the option to buy not just in a 3 year duration, but a one month duration or a one year duration too.

Contrast that with PlexPass, where one purchase unlocks things forever. The correct analogy would be if buying AppleCare+ for X dollars warrantied your Mac purchase...forever. But it never has.
 
foo2 said:
Since AppleCare+ (or any warranty) is the definition of something with a defined and finite lifetime, I'm not sure you're making your point. It's _always_ been this way, but now you have the option to buy not just in a 3 year duration, but a one month duration or a one year duration too.

Contrast that with PlexPass, where one purchase unlocks things forever. The correct analogy would be if buying AppleCare+ for X dollars warrantied your Mac purchase...forever. But it never has.
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Apple Care used to be offered in a subscription model and a 1 time purchase model. Apple dropped the 1 time purchase that had a 2Y (iPhone) or 3Y (Mac) duration raising the prices in the meantime. For the same reason, to push people onto monthly subscriptions. If you subscribe then you might end up paying for Apple Care for 5 years on a Mac that you previously would have purchased 3Y for and not renewed as it no longer makes sense in year 4.

Very apt comparison.
 
Apple_Robert said:
I made my Apple TV my Exit Node. When I tried to set up a subnet via Tailscale, it wouldn't work and I don't know why.
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How long ago did you try this? There was a bug in Tailscale that prevented Apple devices from being setup as Subnet Routers about ~6 months ago.
 
LogicalApex said:
Apple Care used to be offered in a subscription model and a 1 time purchase model. Apple dropped the 1 time purchase that had a 2Y (iPhone) or 3Y (Mac) duration raising the prices in the meantime. For the same reason, to push people onto monthly subscriptions. If you subscribe then you might end up paying for Apple Care for 5 years on a Mac that you previously would have purchased 3Y for and not renewed as it no longer makes sense in year 4.

Very apt comparison.
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Sorry; you still lost me. It would be like buying PlexPass for 3 years vs 1 year vs months - all offered via subscription. Vs PlexPass one time only purchase. Everything you discuss is a subscription model - as long as you are subscribed (whether one time or monthly or whatever) you are covered. You cannot spend X amount of money for lifetime coverage.

The correct analogy would be if buying AppleCare+ for X dollars warrantied your Mac purchase...forever. But it never has.
 
foo2 said:
Sorry; you still lost me. It would be like buying PlexPass for 3 years vs 1 year vs months - all offered via subscription. Vs PlexPass one time only purchase. Everything you discuss is a subscription model - as long as you are subscribed (whether one time or monthly or whatever) you are covered. You cannot spend X amount of money for lifetime coverage.

The correct analogy would be if buying AppleCare+ for X dollars warrantied your Mac purchase...forever. But it never has.
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Plex Pass Lifetime is still a subscription. It is an automatically renewing subscription paid for all up front, but it is still a subscription.

You're getting caught up in the duration of the subscription which isn't my point with the Apple Care comparison. It is that Apple eliminated the 3Y (Mac) single payment option to force people to have to buy the much more expensive Monthly or Annual version. It was a decision Apple made both to boost subscription revenue with the price increase AND to boost it via people leaving it on and paying extremely large amounts over the lifetime of a device.
 
LogicalApex said:
Plex Pass Lifetime is still a subscription. It is an automatically renewing subscription paid for all up front, but it is still a subscription.
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But is there a similar Lifetime AppleCare+ subscription? No, so it's not the same.

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You're getting caught up in the duration of the subscription which isn't my point with the Apple Care comparison.
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Agreed, I am, because you wrote: "You can no longer buy AppleCare+ without a subscription" and that's *always* been the case. AppleCare+ has always been a subscription for a set term, whether 1 month, 1 year, or 3 years. There is no "lifetime" AppleCare+ offering where you pay a set fee up front (say, $600) and get AppleCare+ for the duration of the product.

LogicalApex said:
It is that Apple eliminated the 3Y (Mac) single payment option to force people to have to buy the much more expensive Monthly or Annual version. It was a decision Apple made both to boost subscription revenue with the price increase AND to boost it via people leaving it on and paying extremely large amounts over the lifetime of a device.
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From Google:
An AppleCare+ 3-year plan for the Mac mini costs $99 upfront (or $34.99/year on an ongoing basis). It extends your hardware repair coverage and technical support to three years from the original purchase date and includes unlimited incidents of accidental damage protection (subject to service fees)

I'm not going to quibble over what, a total of a $5 price increase. If that's your argument, that's cool, but that's not what I found fault with.
 
LogicalApex said:
What is your point about Plex?

Plex still offers a Lifetime option... They aren't removing it.
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"You can no longer buy AppleCare+ without a subscription"

That's your statement. I stated that's how AppleCare+ has always been (whether 1 month, 1 year, or 3 years), and I was contrasting that with Plex, where you *can* buy a lifetime Plex offering.
 
I set up Jellyfin yesterday on my Synology NAS and I am able to connect remotely to it with Tailscale. I would like to give access to the server to a family member but, I can't seem to figure out how to do it with Tailscale. I shared the server device with him and provided the address but, he isn't able to connect.

Is anyone knowledgeable on this particular subject to walk me through getting him connected?
 
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