Carol seemed to be listening to the radio when she was doing the washing up, though the Others probably put it on especially for her!
Episode 8 was great.
Episode 8 was great.
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I personally don't think so, there was a ton of exposition from how the hive communicates, where they sleep or what happens to family pets. There's also a lot of framed shot which tells a lot about what each character were thinking.
The family dynamic they had was kinda disturbing to me, and I hope Carol isn't brainwashed into thinking these creatures care about her crappy romance novels. That being said, the virus itself probably has no malice, the civilization that created it probably figured this was the most humane way to eradicate competing species while preserving the planet's resources.
She found out a vital piece of info, the Others communicate sub-consciously by some sort of bio-electrical method. Maybe when Manusos tells her about the strange radio transmission they'll put 2+2 together.
Also, based on episode 4 I think I might have an idea of what happens if the signal gets interrupted even temporarily, cardiac arrest. So in the season's finale Carol and Manousos might be stuck with a dilemma. And the solution might be something only Carol can do.
I initially though that the hive is happy that Carol is writing again because it would distract her from what they're doing, but maybe Carol's sappy romance novels might trigger something in them.
Vince did say he wants people to have different interpretations of each scene which is why in some scenes the pacing was slow/drawn out with very little dialogue. What I am getting from the massage scene is the hive shares information but does not share sensation, I don't know if they share emotions/feelings or not. Carol's books might invoke something in a part of the hive while invoking a different sensation in another. This might cause them to go back to their share knowledge, and they might begin to diverge on their views.
Edit: then again it might just be as simple as...
Biological Imperative vs. We cannot infect Carol because who will finish the book?
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Enjoying it so far.
It’s feels a bit like Severance because the story unfolds in a very familiar world (Earth, present day) with one big - but not totally implausible - difference. You have to pay attention.
It’s feels a bit like Severance because the story unfolds in a very familiar world (Earth, present day) with one big - but not totally implausible - difference. You have to pay attention.
I am invested and I like it, but it's a slooooow burn.
No wonder, people say other shows from this same creator are like that too, but I never watched those.
No wonder, people say other shows from this same creator are like that too, but I never watched those.
The last 3 episode was pretty meh for me, and the 'twist' wasn't much of a twist since everyone saw it coming a mile away. I freaking love Manousos though, and it feels like he has a bit of a crush on Carol. I hope this develops further.
That they've been manipulating her all along and now has the means to turn her using her eggs. It's not much of a twist because they beat us over the head with it during the Ice Hotel episode.
Ohh I think you're better off not discussing this show online because I think to the people who watched it and not talk much about it, it is a twist. But for others who overanalyze and talk about it online it wasn't much of a twist.
I'd rather have a "twist" like that which has been set up in advance than the typical Deus ex Machina that tends to happen in SciFi.
Same for that cracker of a final line... so nicely set up in an early episode.
Same for that cracker of a final line... so nicely set up in an early episode.
Well well well… I’ve already watched the final episode.
I expected a bit more action on this final episode, and even though everything turned out kinda like what I expected towards the end of the episode, for a moment I feared that Carol had changed her mind.
But what I see here is the reflection of human selfishness. Same selfishness we saw at the beginning of the season with Koumba. The moment Carol knows she’s safe and not required to join, she starts embracing a similarly hedonistic life, with Zosia. Then, the moment she knows that she can be converted, she changes her mind. I guess I’m not the only one who saw this.
And Manousos seems to be the only one caring about saving the world.
I expected a bit more action on this final episode, and even though everything turned out kinda like what I expected towards the end of the episode, for a moment I feared that Carol had changed her mind.
But what I see here is the reflection of human selfishness. Same selfishness we saw at the beginning of the season with Koumba. The moment Carol knows she’s safe and not required to join, she starts embracing a similarly hedonistic life, with Zosia. Then, the moment she knows that she can be converted, she changes her mind. I guess I’m not the only one who saw this.
And Manousos seems to be the only one caring about saving the world.
I think there's more to him that meets the eye.
Dude is already cooking up a plan to mass disrupt/jam the signal. He's MacGyvering everything and can navigate the Darien gap without the use of a GPS. Sure, he works at a self-storage but we don't really know what he was doing before. We see that his father was military, but I think he might have been as well. Maybe a Columbia military police that had to leave to get away from the cartel.
Why shouldn't she? The situation isn't of her making, a dozen (and falling) people aren't going to make a dent in the world's resources or significantly advance the food crisis and her alternative choice is to go mad from loneliness. Her "hedonism" is fairly restrained compared to Koumba's ego trip, and she's at least going through the motions of forming a loving relationship with Zosia, again compared to Koumba's... relationships.
Well, being involuntarily converted would be a pretty appalling violation of her trust, so I'm not sure how that is unreasonable. True - she should have seen it coming, the Others have always been completely upfront about having a biological imperative to convert everybody.
...or, just as likely, kill everybody in the attempt. Even if he is "successful" the transition is going to leave the world in chaos & cause many fatalities - esp. if the newly returned object to living off "soylent green" for several months... He's deluded if he thinks everybody is just going to stroll back to their homes & businesses and chase up his IOUs. His morals are so inflexible that he will pursue them without thinking of the consequences - his own kind of "selfishness".
That's the fun thing about the show, not really knowing who to cheer for. I guess that if you take a hard position and stick to it, it's not so much fun.
Personally I'd say that "The Others" are "innocents" and have been completely honest and if there are "villains" it's whoever created the signal. I wonder if the true invaders are going to turn up once the entire population has been turned into their willing slaves. They'd just have to bring a load of automated apple pickers and cow-killers... since the Others don't seem to have any qualms about food once it's dead.
Yeah, it’s actually difficult to cheer for one position or character. And while it may seem I criticized Koumba, actually it would be a bit hypocritical on my behalf, as I would act similarly, materializing many fantasies of mine.
But, on the other side… I’m still distrusting the others. So maybe the right thing to do is to work on “the cure”. I mean, the planet now is a better place but… what about the humans?
And this brings me to the beginning of the show. Which impacted me somewhat. We see one of the immunes before and after her voluntary joining. And to me, it looks terrifying the contrast between the two stages: first they are cooking her favorite meal, she’s enjoying the company of the animals, and the town is singing to her. Then, the moment she joins, everyone leaves in a cold attitude. I mean, I know they are one being from that point onwards, and it wouldn’t have much sense to continue pleasing her, but they stop doing anything for self-enjoyment and go back to work or leave the town. Immediately after she joins. Looks like it’s all fake until they convince her to join. I don’t know, it gives me bad vibes.
By the way, I think we’ll see some of the others momentarily returning to themselves… I think Zosia almost did a couple of weeks ago, and in the finale, Manousos almost brings back Rick (was that his name?). I think they’re still there.
And we finally know what that frequency is for. What’s mysterious, is what are they transmitting, as it’s a weird pattern.
Sure, he seems to have some military background or training. He’s not trusting anyone. And has good survival skills. And a strong personality. I like him. Manousos Oviedo, who’s not one of them, and wants to save the world.
Saw the season finale. Was a fantastic episode and great to finally see Carol and Manousos meeting. It was an intense episode! Overall a great season and a great show.
Would like to see the next season as soon as possible. Looks like it will easily take two years or more for it to be released!!
Would like to see the next season as soon as possible. Looks like it will easily take two years or more for it to be released!!
I loved it when Manousos was trying to get Carol's phone back from the drain and he was muttering about coming 7000 km for this. 
And the phone translating every word hahaha… I laughed a lot on that scene, but I think I laughed more on the drone scene. This show has a rare humor that I love.I loved it when Manousos was trying to get Carol's phone back from the drain and he was muttering about coming 7000 km for this.