It's a hidden add for MagSafe cases if every I saw one.I loved it when Manousos was trying to get Carol's phone back from the drain and he was muttering about coming 7000 km for this.
Sneaky sneaky sneaky.
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Sneaky sneaky sneaky.
I trust the Others to be completely honest in what they say - but not to volunteer anything that may be harmful to them without very specific questioning. I suspect that, although they'd resist answering something vague like "how do I stop you?"
if Manousos asked them how to build a radio jammer for that frequency they'd tell him. They've been totally up-front about having an unbreakable compulsion to convert everybody, and never promised not to convert Carol, just not to take her stem cells without her consent.
Of course, they're very "exact words" about this - they're following their genetic imperatives, not any human concept of ethics
(Using Carol's frozen eggs without consent isn't exactly ethical!)
I see "The Others" as unwitting victims of whoever constructed and sent the original signal (the one reaching Earth might not have been the origin of the 'plague/blessing') just as much as the humans - which of course is a great setup for a morally challenging drama!
...but once joined they are supposedly part of a group mind and have wireless access to the thoughts and feelings of the entire population. If so they don't need to talk or physically interact - something vastly more intimate is going on invisibly.
What impacted me was the way they ignored the goat. Again, they're strictly rules-based - they can't directly mistreat animals, but they're happy to just throw open the cage doors and forget about them.
The interesting contrast is in their approaches. Manousos just uses violence and doesn't really achieve much beyond making Rick have a seizure. Carol (having tried the violent approach and being ashamed at trhe consequences) works on building a relationship with Zosia, shows an interest in her "original" and actually gets her back - conscious and not seizing - for a second. Unless, of course, that's all part of the act... Carol starts out as a thoroughly horrible character, but eventually starts to open herself up to some acceptance of the new situation, Manousos is stubbornly fixated and would wipe out what remains of humanity in order to save it. However, we'll have to see whether Carol would actually use her new possession.
Carol wanted to give them a chance, to forget and forgive everything and find peace in this new world.
The Hive didn't want to give up on their goal of turning every survivor into one of them.
Whatever follows, the Hive is to blame. They could have just let Carol be herself in whatever way she chooses.
The Hive didn't want to give up on their goal of turning every survivor into one of them.
Whatever follows, the Hive is to blame. They could have just let Carol be herself in whatever way she chooses.
I'll have to look more closely because, as "everybody knows", Apple only allow the good guys to have iPhones and it would be really, really interesting to know who we're supposed to be cheering for in Pluribus...
The Hive had already told Carol that they had a biological imperative to convert her.
Carol had already said that she wasn't going to stop looking for a way to stop them. Yes, she'd moved away from a violent solution, but she was trying to get Zosia to identify as an individual.
The Hive didn't create the "virus" - they clam to be the collective minds of the humans who were unwittingly assimilated by the "virus" & the urge to spread is programmed in to the virus.
Which strongly suggests the hive virus is vulnerable while unassimilated minds exist?
Maybe in the past the virus did tolerate "Carols"? But the "Carols" of that era (on a different planet) largely wiped it out. A few remaining virus fragments mutated and that new variant has been better at spreading because it no longer tolerates "Carols"? Simple evolution.
It could be argued that the only remnants of humanity left are the few immune humans.
What happens to the rest (those who appear to be part of the hive mind) may actually be gone forever?
I suspect they aren’t gone forever, but it’s true that if all of them are mixed in that human-mind soup, they could never be the same once they come back. They cannot unsee or forget what they saw or learned. And I’ll refrain myself from providing examples.
However, each person still has its own functional brain. So I guess that even if you cut the communication between them, they can operate again as an individual brain. No?
I mean, given the eternity that we’ll have to wait until season two (and some of us may not see it ever because life is finite), I prefer to think it will have a happy ending, eventually. Although that isn’t the most appropriate way to describe it… because they are currently happy as a one organism.
I wonder if being part of that hive mind is somehow equivalent to eternal life. I guess not, because you only can experience life (pain, pleasure, sadness, joy) through your physical body.
Yes. Great show. Very disappointing that the gap between seasons is very big. Unfortunately all Apple TV shows or shows from other streaming service follow the same pattern. Only exception I noticed recently was for Slow Horses and Servant. Both shows had their new seasons every 12 months. Silo had a gap of 1.5 years. Stranger Things took nearly 10 years to finish.
With gaps of 3 years between seasons, and if the show runs for 3 to 4 season, it will take around 10 to 12 years to know the whole story. Extremely disappointing that this is the situation.