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POLL - Leopard: Erase and Install? Upgrade? Archive and Install?

Which will you do? (Please post as to why!)

  • Erase and install

    Votes: 111 41.4%

  • Upgrade

    Votes: 89 33.2%

  • Archive and install

    Votes: 68 25.4%
  • Total voters
    268
I Think I Read You Need 9GB To Install Leopard

Aperture said:
Unless something changed in CS3, I remember that older versions of PS used to break after an archive & install. (They'd tell you to reinstall when you try to launch)

Do you know how much space is required to do an archive & install?
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I did Archive & Install from Panther to Tiger with CS on board and nothing broke at all. If you are out of room on your system hard drive and you need to ask that question, you need to think about moving stuff off that drive. There should always be a buffer of about 10-20GB left on any system HD for the OS to run smoothly.

The Installer will tell you if you have enough room - how much you need.
 
Right, my situation is:

I'm getting a new iMac this week that has Tiger pre-installed and comes with Leopard. I'm not going to be using Tiger at all and will be installing Leopard immediately.

Someone in another thread said my best option is Upgrade, as Tiger won't have been used. But with all this talk about Upgrade being the worst option, I'd like a second opinion... thoughts?
 
Yes Archive as at least if there is some issue with a program and Leopard and you really need that app, you can still boot you're Tiger install!
Yes I'll be doing that about 7 - 8:00 pm tomorrow.
:)
 
Multimedia said:
I did Archive & Install from Panther to Tiger with CS on board and nothing broke at all. If you are out of room on your system hard drive and you need to ask that question, you need to think about moving stuff off that drive. There should always be a buffer of about 10-20GB left on any system HD for the OS to run smoothly.

The Installer will tell you if you have enough room - how much you need.
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I have two drives in my machine, a 250GB boot drive and a 500GB storage drive. The boot drive stores everything other than the iTunes Library and Aperture Library which are housed on the storage 500GB drive.

If I perform an archive and install, what happens to the data on both of these hard-drives? I'm trying to fully understand this procedure.
 
Multimedia said:
Not that I know of. Why would you want to do that?
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In case I run into problems with things like the Cisco VPN client and various other apps I need. It would be nice to have a quick backout plan rather than restoring the whole system from backup.
 
netdog said:
From what Multi is saying, I think this might heal your system. You could certainly try before you bulldoze and lose all your installs.
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Maybe but it went very belly up and would prefer to know that i am installing something that works rather installing something that may fix it with the view to having to do an erase and install later down the line in case it didn't fix it. Won't take me long to get my system back and I will have a lot less crap installed on it. The longest part will be copying data and i can go have a shower/cup of tea/read/something useful while that is happening.
 
A Virgin iMac Should Erase & Install + iLife '08 From Tiger Install DVD #2

Lh'owon said:
Right, my situation is:

I'm getting a new iMac this week that has Tiger pre-installed and comes with Leopard. I'm not going to be using Tiger at all and will be installing Leopard immediately.

Someone in another thread said my best option is Upgrade, as Tiger won't have been used. But with all this talk about Upgrade being the worst option, I'd like a second opinion... thoughts?
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Your case is different. I would erase and install on a virgin system. Then insert your Tiger install DVD to get your iLife '08 installer so you can get them back on your Leopard install. Ask your sales person the way to extract iLife '08 off the enclosed Tiger install DVDs. I think the startup is on DVD 1 and then you are prompted to insert DVD 2. In any event you don't reboot to the Tiger DVD. There's a bunch of folders on DVD 1 that includes the iLife '08 install package. Have someone in the store show you where it is so you don't have trouble finding it when you get home.
 
Multimedia said:
I did Archive & Install from Panther to Tiger with CS on board and nothing broke at all. If you are out of room on your system hard drive and you need to ask that question, you need to think about moving stuff off that drive. There should always be a buffer of about 10-20GB left on any system HD for the OS to run smoothly.

The Installer will tell you if you have enough room - how much you need.
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I have 20Gbish free and I was just trying to plan if I wanted to do an archive & install or upgrade beforehand. Thanks for the info.
 
Multimedia said:
Your case is different. I would erase and install on a virgin system. Then insert your Tiger install DVD to get your iLife '08 installer so you can get them back on your Leopard install. Ask your sales person the way to extract iLife '08 off the enclosed Tiger install DVDs. I think the startup is on DVD 1 and then you are prompted to insert DVD 2. In any event you don't reboot to the Tiger DVD. There's a bunch of folders on DVD 1 that includes the iLife '08 install package. Have someone in the store show you where it is so you don't have trouble finding it when you get home.
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Thanks! Yea, that's the method I feel most comfortable with... it seems pointless to leave any traces of Tiger, especially with a new computer.
 
Archive & Install

Multimedia said:
It installs a new system and retains all your current preferences, settings and licenses.
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How much free disk space is required with an Archive & Install? I only have a 250GB disk with 90GBs free. Will I have to clone my current install onto a larger disk to do an Archive & Install?
 
Phone The Publishers Of Software You Must Have In Leopard To See All Is AOK

tyr2 said:
In case I run into problems with things like the Cisco VPN client and various other apps I need. It would be nice to have a quick backout plan rather than restoring the whole system from backup.
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You mean you haven't called the publishers to ask if everything is AOK in Leopard yet?
 
erase and install.

First make a clone of my drive with superduper, then erase and install. The upgrade assistant can choose to retrieve my user data and settings from the cloned image.

Best of both worlds.
 
slicedbread said:
erase and install.

First make a clone of my drive with superduper, then erase and install. The upgrade assistant can choose to retrieve my user data and settings from the cloned image.

Best of both worlds.
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Does it matter that Super Duper won't work under Leopard? Is a Super Duper clone an untainted copy of the drive?
 
Glenn Wolsey said:
I have two drives in my machine, a 250GB boot drive and a 500GB storage drive. The boot drive stores everything other than the iTunes Library and Aperture Library which are housed on the storage 500GB drive.

If I perform an archive and install, what happens to the data on both of these hard-drives? I'm trying to fully understand this procedure.
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It does nothing to your storage drive and installs Leopard on your boot drive while retaining all your settings and leaves all your installs in tact. It's painless Glenn. There's really nothing to it.

slicedbread said:
erase and install.

First make a clone of my drive with superduper, then erase and install. The upgrade assistant can choose to retrieve my user data and settings from the cloned image.

Best of both worlds.
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Yeah good luck with that choice. Maybe you'll be done by Sunday. The upgrade assistant is a load of C**p in my opinion. I have never seen anything take as long as it does to move stuff from one drive to another.
 
Erase and Install is my plan. Just due to past experience with 'ye olde Windoze'. I know I have nothing to worry about, but better to be safe than sorry.
I have all the discs to reinstall all of my apps.
All my documents and music are already on an external anyway.
Here's hoping it all doesn't go årse over t¡t :confused:
 
Multimedia said:
You mean you haven't called the publishers to ask if everything is AOK in Leopard yet?
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No I haven't, it's too much faff and with regards to the VPN client I don't have a personal access to the Cisco support site.

It wouldn't be the end of the world if things break, I have another Mac I use for work which I won't be upgrading for at least a month. If I have to restore the upgraded system then it won't be a big deal I was just wondering if the 'previous system' provided a quick backout, cheers for the clarification that it doesn't.
 
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