Yeah, who would WANT to try to use the desktop version of OSX with a finger anyway?
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POLL: What OS do you think the Tablet will run?
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Yeah, who would WANT to try to use the desktop version of OSX with a finger anyway?
its a poor situation if you think about the argument of 60,000 apps on iPhone OS.
as a major computer OS, apparent many people think that 60,000 offers more potentials as an OS, then OSX is kinda a failure in that regard.
The argument, IMHO, is ludicrous, iPhone OS apps are almost universally light weight, leisure, time killing, not really into serious productivity. Is that how you guys imagine iPad's targeted market would be? if yes, it would just be a cannibalization of iPT.
as a major computer OS, apparent many people think that 60,000 offers more potentials as an OS, then OSX is kinda a failure in that regard.
The argument, IMHO, is ludicrous, iPhone OS apps are almost universally light weight, leisure, time killing, not really into serious productivity. Is that how you guys imagine iPad's targeted market would be? if yes, it would just be a cannibalization of iPT.
Agreed, but the iPhone model proved that if you build a platform that serves the needs of users and developers, you will get an app for nearly everything imaginable that the platform supports. Hence, the iPhone apps are only the start. A tablet will spawn 50,000 more new apps that are geared towards a tablet user. Build it, and they will come has never been more appropriate.
Just because people want doesn't mean Apple will give it. I mean, look at Blu-Ray, people have wanted it and has yet to make an appearance.
Apple listens, but no always gives the answer we are looking for.
From what the rumours seem to be going about especially the secondary screen features make me think that apple won't market it as a small laptop but as something new. I would like to see the full fledged mac os on there but I have doubts as it would be all that great to use with your fingers.
If anything, I'm guessing it will be a mix of osx and iphone os. As they had mentioned, iphone os is somehow based on osx. So adding Cocoa Touch to os x should be fairly feasible. The iPhone was somewhat of a sure sell, where as I have doubts about how well the tablet would sell. Might as well reuse and have a symbiotic platform than have very independent platforms. I wouldn't be surprised if it could run both iPhone apps and OSX apps. IE it could run both, apple would modify some of the core OSX apps to work well with a touch interface and still allow you to run conventional apps. Yet if there are lots of multitouch features involved it wouldn't be that bad. I'm pretty sure apple could just make a new appearance theme loosely based on the iPhone's to further enable the use of touch : zooming where your finger is when it's on a list and so on, bigger buttons...
If anything, I'm guessing it will be a mix of osx and iphone os. As they had mentioned, iphone os is somehow based on osx. So adding Cocoa Touch to os x should be fairly feasible. The iPhone was somewhat of a sure sell, where as I have doubts about how well the tablet would sell. Might as well reuse and have a symbiotic platform than have very independent platforms. I wouldn't be surprised if it could run both iPhone apps and OSX apps. IE it could run both, apple would modify some of the core OSX apps to work well with a touch interface and still allow you to run conventional apps. Yet if there are lots of multitouch features involved it wouldn't be that bad. I'm pretty sure apple could just make a new appearance theme loosely based on the iPhone's to further enable the use of touch : zooming where your finger is when it's on a list and so on, bigger buttons...
Are you being serious lol? You honestly think Apple would make a tablet that uses a stylus and a desktop OS and GUI? Did you miss the entire presentation Steve gave about that and Multi-Touch when he introduced the iPhone?
You might want to check out this site before you pop a blood vessel.Are you being serious lol? You honestly think Apple would make a tablet that uses a stylus and a desktop OS and GUI? Did you miss the entire presentation Steve gave about that and Multi-Touch when he introduced the iPhone?
as you can see from the logo thats a Modbook which is a MacBook modded with a touch screen made by Axiotron.
You might want to check out this site before you pop a blood vessel.
I am very aware of the ModBook. I was assuming you were saying Apple is going to make their Tablet like that.
The Axiotron Modbook is:
Too heavy.
Too large.
Even the MacBook Air is too heavy and too large. Something pocketable (or almost) is needed to carry it with you ALL THE TIME on your pocket or your bag or purse. ALWAYS WITH YOU. Like the OQO or similar, or even like the Sony Vaio P but with Mac inside.
I voted Beefed up iPhone. I think it will run on the Arm architecture but it may have a different interface. At the end of the day, software interface is everything on a device like this so the device can be changed quite dramatically without changing that much of the "under the hood" functionality.
I voted for beefed-up iPhone OS X...
But, as I've posted elsewhere, it's almost a meaningless differentiation.
Apple has evolved OS X (and the SDK) so it is modular, portable and [relatively] platform independent.
Apple can package various components together to run a variant of OS X tailored to a specific device type, be it an iPod, AppleTV, iPhone, tablet, game console (or other future devices).
consider:
--Most iPhone (Cocoa Touch) apps can be made to run on Mac OS X (Intel) through the iPhone Simulator. You can pinch/zoom with the kb and mouse.
--Some components developed for a specific device, can be generalized/modularized to run on other devices, and become a component of the total OS X. GPS / Location Services is a good example. Developed for the iPhone, it can be useful for laptops.
--Cocoa Pen (or somesuch) could be developed for a tablet [OS X Variant], then added to the general OS X components, to provide that capability to desktops and laptops.
--Draw, Paint, Hand Printing Recognition, Handwriting Recognition could be developed for devices where they make sense based on either Cocoa Touch, Cocoa Pen or both,
Since the NeXT days, the OS has been enhanced, evolved, modularized, re-factored, and ported to run on:
-- Motorola 68000
-- Intel
-- PPC
-- ARM
-- maybe other CPUs like Cell, PASC
So, the CPU need not be the determining factor in which OS X variant runs on a device.
What goes into the OS X for a specific device should be determined by the needs and capabilities of the device and its probable uses, more simply "what makes sense":
-- multiple windows or multiple-column tables (ala Mac OS X) don't really make sense on a 3.5" [iPhone] display, but they would on a 6", 10" or larger tablet.
-- A touch or pen UI may not make sense on an iMac's display, but it would make sense with a horizontal accessory tablet display used for painting, drawing or as a light table or studio controller panel.
-- Location Services would not make sense for a fixed-location iMac, PowerMac, or AppleTV. But it does for many mobile devices.
-- Pen or Stylus input doesn't make sense on a mobile phone, but it does on a tablet.
The point of all this is that Apple already has an OS, OS X that can do all this, and it can be packaged (customized) to exploit the needs of a marketplace [device] with the greatest efficiency and utility.
Not: real soon now; later this fall; early 2010; end of 2010... but Now!
"It's the User Experience, stupid"
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But, as I've posted elsewhere, it's almost a meaningless differentiation.
Apple has evolved OS X (and the SDK) so it is modular, portable and [relatively] platform independent.
Apple can package various components together to run a variant of OS X tailored to a specific device type, be it an iPod, AppleTV, iPhone, tablet, game console (or other future devices).
consider:
--Most iPhone (Cocoa Touch) apps can be made to run on Mac OS X (Intel) through the iPhone Simulator. You can pinch/zoom with the kb and mouse.
--Some components developed for a specific device, can be generalized/modularized to run on other devices, and become a component of the total OS X. GPS / Location Services is a good example. Developed for the iPhone, it can be useful for laptops.
--Cocoa Pen (or somesuch) could be developed for a tablet [OS X Variant], then added to the general OS X components, to provide that capability to desktops and laptops.
--Draw, Paint, Hand Printing Recognition, Handwriting Recognition could be developed for devices where they make sense based on either Cocoa Touch, Cocoa Pen or both,
Since the NeXT days, the OS has been enhanced, evolved, modularized, re-factored, and ported to run on:
-- Motorola 68000
-- Intel
-- PPC
-- ARM
-- maybe other CPUs like Cell, PASC
So, the CPU need not be the determining factor in which OS X variant runs on a device.
What goes into the OS X for a specific device should be determined by the needs and capabilities of the device and its probable uses, more simply "what makes sense":
-- multiple windows or multiple-column tables (ala Mac OS X) don't really make sense on a 3.5" [iPhone] display, but they would on a 6", 10" or larger tablet.
-- A touch or pen UI may not make sense on an iMac's display, but it would make sense with a horizontal accessory tablet display used for painting, drawing or as a light table or studio controller panel.
-- Location Services would not make sense for a fixed-location iMac, PowerMac, or AppleTV. But it does for many mobile devices.
-- Pen or Stylus input doesn't make sense on a mobile phone, but it does on a tablet.
The point of all this is that Apple already has an OS, OS X that can do all this, and it can be packaged (customized) to exploit the needs of a marketplace [device] with the greatest efficiency and utility.
Not: real soon now; later this fall; early 2010; end of 2010... but Now!
"It's the User Experience, stupid"
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Mac OS X and the app store
Others have posted that Apple needs to use the app store to distro Mac apps.
I am sure that is in the plans!
But, right now, Apple has got its hands full with the iPhone and iPod Touch app store services.
New Apple tablet devices would be easier to absorb into the app store: fewer new apps (to begin with); and established app portfolio (capability to run many existing iPhone apps on the tablet devices).
The Mac landscape is different. An infrastructure already exists, independent of the app store. Software vendors would need to add costs to change their existing apps and procedures for the app store.
When the app store is refined, a bit, and stabilizes, Apple will slowly start the ball rolling, say with iMac iLife and iWork. Then, the Pro apps. Later, third-party apps will be added to the mix.
Apple doesn't want to overload the app store and create another MobileMe fiasco.
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Others have posted that Apple needs to use the app store to distro Mac apps.
I am sure that is in the plans!
But, right now, Apple has got its hands full with the iPhone and iPod Touch app store services.
New Apple tablet devices would be easier to absorb into the app store: fewer new apps (to begin with); and established app portfolio (capability to run many existing iPhone apps on the tablet devices).
The Mac landscape is different. An infrastructure already exists, independent of the app store. Software vendors would need to add costs to change their existing apps and procedures for the app store.
When the app store is refined, a bit, and stabilizes, Apple will slowly start the ball rolling, say with iMac iLife and iWork. Then, the Pro apps. Later, third-party apps will be added to the mix.
Apple doesn't want to overload the app store and create another MobileMe fiasco.
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Easy! Take Adobe, Microsoft, Apple Pro apps, etc.
They currently mass produce Hard-copy software, manuals, DVDs, promotional materials for a known (and well understood) group of distro channels: their own online store; Amazon; Dealers; Vars; others;
They know how to schedule; manufacture and release with the current infrastructure.
Now, say they want to do electronic distro through the app store. Everything is new and different: packaging; DRM; support; customer inetrface.
For instance:
-- the current Hard-copy package includes multiple (Gigs) of DVDs, and thousands of pages of printed manuals-- what needs to be done to make it practical to find and electronically distribute this through the app store.
-- how do you implement DRM and registration codes
-- same for returns, updates and upgrades
-- will we (the software mfgr) need a new and different support organization
For these apps, any time and $ spent to distro through the app store will be additional costs. The established distro channels won't go away... not immediately, maybe never!
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