I wonder how literally every other company manages to do it, despite having far less money? Maybe they use magic?
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I wonder how literally every other company manages to do it, despite having far less money? Maybe they use magic?
For all the Apple defenders here is a review of the top laptops of 2018. Macbook Pros are not on that list for its outdated internals. What a surprise. I don't need a new look or design every other year but there is no excuse not to update the international on a yearly basis. For a trillion Dollar company how hard would it have been to update the Mac Minis internals in the last six years??
Pretty much the same situation I've been in...and Apple has directly lost $2k just in the past year by me dumping upgrades into an old (2012) Mac Pro instead of buying a shiny new Apple...and even more indirectly, when the surplus budget goes into other endeavors (Canon 400mm f/4 DO IS lens, for example).
The contemplation of a more formal boycott might be in the cards at this point.
Particularly when there's no guidance provided for how long the wait may be.
A simple yes -or- no question: is there a firm ETA delivery date yet?
Apple has made promises before that they've later backed out on.
Diversify & broaden the business product lines so as to reduce your risk exposure to a single product line failing.
Of course, that may very well be what Apple is trying to do with the self-driving car, as there's still a lot of scuttlebutt about it sucking resources - - but that's an example of DROPPING THE BALL when trying to chase the new SHINY.
My Apple Stock is on the "bubble" watch list as a significant risk of a catastrophic collapse.
Because all it takes right now to kill Apple is for someone to develop and market a new smartphone that the youth stampede to ... and 92% of Apple's revenue streams will disappear in 18 months.
Because of course whether a question is rhetorical or not is solely decided by the reader and not whether the questioner expected an answer or not (this btw is sarcasm).
The situation is quite depressing if you consider that:
1) DirectX 12 is faster than Metal 2
2) Nvidia GPUs are so much faster
3D people are already moving away from the Mac en masse and Apple pretty much killed any gaming aspirations by not supporting Vulkan.
Hilarious position on the state of Apple. Even if that did happen, it would take longer than 18 months and there would be plenty of opportunity to see the writing on the wall, or at least before 92% of the revenue will “disappear.”
Really, just a ridiculous view that doesn’t deserve the time for a rebuttal. Every company has risks, but Apple has a gigantic moat, a lot of which is proprietary and cold hard cash/earnings. We’ve seen hardware duplication and even betterment doesn’t really impact sales at Apple, although Apples mobile hardware is ahead in many areas.
I’ll say this. If Samsung can’t dethrone Apple, it would take a miracle for someone else to get the manufacturing scale alone to compete. It’s not easy to build these things, develop supplier relationships, mass produce everything, support it, and do it every single day.
Good luck to those who have tried and will try though. I’ll be watching the numbers, but NOTHING objective shows anything remotely close to what you’ve described.
Apple is also one of the cheaper stocks relative to its earnings growth you can buy, particular of those companies you’re familiar and are over $50B.
Adobe made the decision to treat Mac users like 2nd class citizens long before the iPhone came out. Look how long it took them to actually move the CS apps from Carbon to Cocoa. They viewed the Mac market as being too small to really be worth the same effort as Windows for a long time.
What about the charging pad? That is for their priority product (iPhone) yet Apple announced it last year and still haven't produced it.
If they don't want to update the Mac regularly that's up to them but how hard can it be for Apple to make a charging mat? I don't want to buy it so it doesn't affect me at all but why announce it if it was that far from production. It makes them look pretty undynamic.
If they don't want to update the Mac regularly that's up to them but how hard can it be for Apple to make a charging mat? I don't want to buy it so it doesn't affect me at all but why announce it if it was that far from production. It makes them look pretty undynamic.
A few thoughts:
1) we will never be given actual failure rates.
2) this situation is very reminiscent of the iPhone 6 Plus when Apple fans said there was nothing wrong with the phones and they wouldn't bend without abuse. FYI, there were real problems which Apple never fixed until the 6S.
3) the fact that three lawsuits have been filed is evidence something is wrong.
4) the new "butterfly" keyboard is a scissor keyboard. It is the same basic design as before except everything was made thinner (including the switches under the keys) and key travel was significantly reduced. The domes added in rev 2 are another problem because they are uncoated and therefore susceptible to corrosion and faulty signal transfer (registering as double stroke or no stroke at all). This is simply an engineering issue and has been covered more extensively by other sites.
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I would like a quad-core in a 13" form factor, which is now possible. Money is not the issue.
Also, you seem to be ignorant of the significant increase in performance--as much as 50% in multi-core tests and another 5-10% in single core.
Other OEMs have had updates out for months now. By comparison, Apple is out of date, and tech reporters are saying as much. Why would I purchase out of date hardware regardless of cost?
I do not know why you are reading issues of price into my posts but this seems to be a personal issue for you.
This is not true. The current keyboards are not wireless if you plug in the cables. You can disable bluetooth on the computer and the keyboard will still function.
I have that keyboard and are using it with the cable, bluetooth disabled.
I think the issue with the pro line mac userbase is sometimes when you're critical of this situation people jump on you and make excuses for apple. I don't think this is about being "mad" with apple or anything, it's just a frustrating situation for people that depend on apple hardware.
For example, myself. I run a small production company, and while I'm pretty adept with pcs and have my own custom gaming and edit pc at home I use all apple stuff in house because in my experience Avid and Adobe premiere runs very well on apple, and a lot of the younger talent out there still prefers to use macs, and that helps with smooth on-boarding. So this year I wanted to invest in some laptops for the business, but I'm in this weird spot where I'm waiting to see what happens. Yes I can get the 2017 mbp and it will work just fine. But I've also become used to there being an update by now, and would like to future proof as much as possible.
It's not keeping me up at night, but it's literally a situation where I'm willing to give apple thousands of dollars for something, but alas waiting and refreshing the refurbished MBP store and ebay deciding whether this is worth it since work will pick up after the summer.
in short, most of us are on the same side, so no use defending apple or going after them with venom, but rather continue to make it known this is unacceptable for clients who have been using their hardware for over a decade.
For example, myself. I run a small production company, and while I'm pretty adept with pcs and have my own custom gaming and edit pc at home I use all apple stuff in house because in my experience Avid and Adobe premiere runs very well on apple, and a lot of the younger talent out there still prefers to use macs, and that helps with smooth on-boarding. So this year I wanted to invest in some laptops for the business, but I'm in this weird spot where I'm waiting to see what happens. Yes I can get the 2017 mbp and it will work just fine. But I've also become used to there being an update by now, and would like to future proof as much as possible.
It's not keeping me up at night, but it's literally a situation where I'm willing to give apple thousands of dollars for something, but alas waiting and refreshing the refurbished MBP store and ebay deciding whether this is worth it since work will pick up after the summer.
in short, most of us are on the same side, so no use defending apple or going after them with venom, but rather continue to make it known this is unacceptable for clients who have been using their hardware for over a decade.
I have been unaware how the other manufacturers have overtaken Apple in the last years. The last PC i had to deal with was my wifes 2010 HP Pavilion which was crap and she switched to a MacBook Pro a few years ago. Now that she needs a new laptop fast for her work I was looking for an alternative since yesterday and man was I surprised! Macs are soooo outdated compared to these beasts! I just can't believe it! Carbon fiber and all aluminium bodys, slim like MacBooks but user upgradable RAM, SSD and Wifi! Great screens and great keyboards, top connectivity and ports. I was under the impression that Apple was making the best computers since all I knew was Macs and that ****** HP laptop, but man was I wrong...
I feel like I was living under a rock. I feel a little ashamed that I didn't realise how bad Apple was becoming.
Now my wife has the rest of the week to decide if she wants to stay in the Apple ecosystem by buying a used previous gen MacBook Pro or switch back to Windows. I guess she will go with a brand new laptop for a third of the cost of a MacBook Pro.
Now when she switches we will lose a lot of connectivity which is a first step out of our Apple ecosystem. I will need to replace the failing AP express and AP Extreme soon and it will not be something from Apple since they killed that off. Once my wife switches from Mac to PC she might switch from the iPhone SE to something better and cheaper then the next iPhone as well. Again one less reasons to stay with an iPhone myself and the last bit to make me leave my beloved MacBooks and Apple altogether.
People are frightened by changes and so am I a little but. But I feel more sadness that I may own a Windows PC someday after three decades of successfully avoiding it with Amiga computers and Macs.
I feel like I was living under a rock. I feel a little ashamed that I didn't realise how bad Apple was becoming.
Now my wife has the rest of the week to decide if she wants to stay in the Apple ecosystem by buying a used previous gen MacBook Pro or switch back to Windows. I guess she will go with a brand new laptop for a third of the cost of a MacBook Pro.
Now when she switches we will lose a lot of connectivity which is a first step out of our Apple ecosystem. I will need to replace the failing AP express and AP Extreme soon and it will not be something from Apple since they killed that off. Once my wife switches from Mac to PC she might switch from the iPhone SE to something better and cheaper then the next iPhone as well. Again one less reasons to stay with an iPhone myself and the last bit to make me leave my beloved MacBooks and Apple altogether.
People are frightened by changes and so am I a little but. But I feel more sadness that I may own a Windows PC someday after three decades of successfully avoiding it with Amiga computers and Macs.
I feel where you’re coming from yetCan’t hurt to try especially minute larger numbers to try
Other manufacturers have not surpassed Apples build quality.
I thought I was ready to jump ship - bought at Dell 9575 w/8705g processor. 4k screen, carbon-esque top deck, aluminum body. Hell its internal code name is "La Ferrari" - i assume because its light and fast. Know what I got?
- A fan that wouldn't cycle down properly when charging
- A fan at full speed that sounded like a jet engine
- Missing drivers on the manufacturer site - so when I did a restore I couldn't get the keyboard lights back
- Keyboard giving phantom presses if you typed too fast (if I typed "control" too fast it would also issue an F7 keypress
- Windows 10 with its built in spyware/malware
- Poor speaker quality
- Beyond disgusting customer experience with sales department.
Thats a $2500 laptop. Fine, what about HP? They have the gorgeous Spectre X360 line with 8550u and 1050 graphics. My experience:
- Ticking/clicking sound from capacitors under the keyboard
- Tablet screen that occasionally refused to register pen input (may have been load related)
- Windows 10 with its built in spyware/malware
- Poor speaker quality
So, to answer your question - no, the competition hasn't released a better product than Apple. Even with its faulty keyboards and slower low voltage processors even the current MBP bests anything running Windows - build quality and OS.
However if Apple would quickly humble itself and admit its disposition with its laptop/desktop/SFF lines it would make everyone a lot happier.
If you leave the cable plugged in, it doesn't use wireless.
I'm sorry...but you looked at two laptops and surmise that the competition hasn't released a better product (even with the keyboard?!??!!)? Personally, wouldn't have chosen either of those two given that they are more like MBA (if that), rather than MBP. I would have looked at Razor Blade, XPS 15, MSI Stealth Thin, ROG Zephyrus M, Aero 15, to start with. I'd personally look a little harder before making that claim...
I have spent the last two days to find a decent replacement for my wifes failing MacBook, by checking reviews and going to stores to touch and feel the laptops and yes Apple has lost its advantage. They lost it years ago and I was totally unaware! Apple got overtaken by far! And I am not talking about those crappy HP or Dell mainstream stuff.
I am still shocked how outdated and overpriced the MacBook Pro is and I am ashamed that I was so ignorant when talking with friends about computers because I had no clue what I was talking about till yesterday. Wow, just wow.
Edit: Apple is not just overtaken, Apple stumbled and fell, landed in dog poo, got left in the dust, got kicked sand in its face while on the ground, wet its pants and got laugh at while even the slow fat kid is overtaking it.
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Razer Blade 15, loaded with KDE Neon (linux), has all the checks, none of the wrongs, and most important PRO apps has either a Linux version or an Solid Equivalent in linux Ecosystem, often free.
Can you guys please create a POLL for these types of important topics... we really need to show by numbers how important this is...
Agreed! Likewise, the current MacBook Pros should be relegated to MacBooks and a truly high performance MacBook Pro should've been developed. Less concerned with thin-ness, higher core count, swappable drives and SODIMMs, nVidia GPU, a proper keyboard, lots of port diversity, 17" model (with matte screen option), and a goddamn glowing logo on the back (because it would be a Mac to be proud of it damnit!)
Sort of like the models Lenovo and Dell are releasing.
This way the power users and content-creators can have the power and flexibility they need, while the consuming masses can have their emoji-toys.
Ok man, you win For different versions to be more explicit as well as to update more often and keep older versions around a tad cheaper, would be an economical suicide, ok, got it.
Have fun.
PS: 6, 6S, 7 and 8 are relatively similar looking. Keep on dodging. There is nothing they can do.
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Link? That has Ive written all over it - Can't be the thinnest, if there is a hardware for illumination!!!