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You know full well that the WD drive I linked is easily comparable, it's one of the fastest available on the market with 7.3gb/s read speeds. For $300. Apple doesn't even tell you the specs on their SSDs. LOL.
The 8TB upgrade on the mac pro page is $2000 on amazon is between $800 and a little over a $1000. For the 4TB Apple is charging 3X the market price.
 
I was holding thumbs that all this drama, mostly from the planned shutdown by most of the popular subreddits, would force Reddit to end this madness and that things would resolve amicably enough. It will suck so much losing Reddit at the end of this month. I love the platform but there is no way I'm using the official app or website. They are some of the worst garbage I've ever come across.
 
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Imagine telling Wal-mart you will use their entire infrastructure for FREE to sell your own stuff and getting mad they now want to make you pay to use their store to sell your goods all while already charging users a monthly/yearly fee.

Imagine promoting and directing customers TO use Walmart for many many years; at their encouragement, request, advantage and growth, only to have them give you a month's notice that you need to begin paying them $20 million a year from $0 to continue because now their success means they don't think they need you anymore.
 
Not at all what is happening. Third party apps are fine with a fee to access it that is reasonable. Reddit waited until they had a huge cash cow, then decided "oh, we're totally going to start billing now" and picked an insane rate.

If you think this isn't an issue, that's fine, but your translation above isn't accurate.
And that’s fine if you think your translation is correct. Ad revenues are significantly impacted on all platforms and Reddit would not be able to sustain it for much longer. Whine and bitch all you want but the business will be around longer as a result.
 
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That's not the issue. They're willing to pay for it. It's just that Reddit is asking for more than 20x the amount of other sites like Imgur, for the same features while not improving their API's or API logging to properly measure the charges they are asking for.
Calculate the rate across the time they’ve accessed the APIs for free and I’m sire that comes out at a very competitive rate. What Apollo has been doing is corporate robbery
 
Imagine telling Wal-mart you will use their entire infrastructure for FREE to sell your own stuff and getting mad they now want to make you pay to use their store to sell your goods all while already charging users a monthly/yearly fee.
The developer is not against paying Reddit for use of their API. He’s just against the amount that they are charging for the use of the API two cents per user is ridiculous.
 
You would have thought that the suits at Reddit saw the backlash and SH***** that came after Elon killed off all 3rd party apps on twitter....


Guess they have the same kind of kink for the backlash that Elon got
You weren’t generating the business any money. So won’t be missed.
 
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Imagine profiting from Reddit for almost a decade and now shutting down your App because they want you to pay to use their API. Reddit is a business not a charity.

You can use the official app, which is free.

Unlike Youtube, Twitch and others, Reddit doesn't share their ad revenue with users who create most of the content on their platform for free, except some selected mods who get paid by Reddit.
 
Except you you're purposely slanting the situation so as to position reddit as the "bad guy" and Apollo as an "angel"
Reddit is quite literally the bad guy in this situation and what has Apollo done wrong?

Why are people acting like he was taking advantage of reddit or something? they literally offered their API for free its not like he was underhandedly pulling one over on them.

The whole issue is the greed of the API costs and especially for me the outright lying about Christian.
 
I don't think he's mad about there being a cost for using the API. He's just faced with an impossible timeline to adjust his business model to accommodate the new cost. It's like if you rented and your landlord increased your rent 10-fold, starting next month, or your city increased your property taxes 10-fold and gave you 30 days to pay.

Yes, he has profited off of Reddit's infrastructure, but Reddit should have offered a very gradual pain-free transition over the course of a year. The only ones hurting here are his paying, loyal customers. He's walking away with his earned profits.

EDIT: I just listened to part of the recorded conversation with the Reddit CEO and I'm siding with Reddit on this one. The guy behind Apollo seems to be some young punk that can't communicate professionally. It's like he kept fiddling with something while talking, and talking over the CEO. It was very unprofessional. 😳
Poor analgy. With interest rates and inflation landlords would be faced with increased costs that they have to pass to renters.

Similar situation. Reddit revenues were impacred by the economic slowdownnof ads. This is factor outside of Reddit’s control and they are well entitled ti adapt their business to cope by passing the costs on. That is business, unforseen challenges arise and it reallt demonstrates the risks of businesses relying on one income stream.
 
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Reddit is quite literally the bad guy in this situation and what has Apollo done wrong?

Why are people acting like he was taking advantage of reddit or something? they literally offered their API for free its not like he was underhandedly pulling one over on them.

The whole issue is the greed of the API costs and especially for me the outright lying about Christian.
A business can charge whatever they want for their service, have you forgotten that? If walmart wanted to sell you milk for 80$, they can do that, what part of that do you not understand? As a buyer you choose. You can choose not to buy from walmart. But now all of a sudden walmart is a "bad guy"? How? Stupid maybe. Bad? Wtf??
 
Reddit is quite literally the bad guy in this situation and what has Apollo done wrong?

Why are people acting like he was taking advantage of reddit or something? they literally offered their API for free its not like he was underhandedly pulling one over on them.

The whole issue is the greed of the API costs and especially for me the outright lying about Christian.
They’re the bad guy for protecting their income stream?
 
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Except you you're purposely slanting the situation so as to position reddit as the "bad guy" and Apollo as an "angel"

1) He has grossed $500,000 a year from subscriptions ALONE
2) Next apple's 15% cut (not 30% you are lying again) - that is $425,000
3) There are plenty of purchases in the app that is NOT a subscription (in fact that's what I purchased - Apollo Pro). Let's even assume it makes 50% of the sub revenue, that's $200,000
4) He has no costs. That's the whole point of this argument. He's been freeloading his server off Reddit's. He doesn't even host the frigging content. I repeat HE HAS NO COSTS.
5) So he has a take home of $625,000 a year. Let's say that it grew linearly for 8 years. That would be 80k+160k+240k+320k+400k+480k+560k+640k = $2.88 Millions Dollars
6) That doesn't even include pixelpal, which he has publicly admit has made more money for him than Apollo itself
7) Someone who has earned more than 5 million is not considered a multi-millionaire? What kind of world do you live in?

1) That's the only data point we have to go off of. Everything else is uninformed speculation.
2) Half right. Under Apple's Small Business Program, it's 15% for apps that make < $1M/yr, but that's only existed for the last few years.
3) Again, the only actual data we have are subscriber numbers; everything else is uninformed speculation. According to the App Store, the only IAPs for Apollo rn are subs and tips.
4) He obviously has costs. I don't care enough to go find his post, but he pays at least one person for server maintenance. Which means he also has server costs.
5) Rank uninformed speculation. Far more likely he made next to nothing for the first few years. And even your own generous estimate here is far less than the $5M you initially claimed.
6) Yes, my numbers for Apollo include only Apollo. Maybe he sells stuff on Etsy on the side, too, but again the only data point we have are subscriber numbers.
7) Correct. Most people make > $1M in their lifetimes. "Wealth" is typically based on net worth, not lifetime earnings.
 
A business can charge whatever they want for their service, have you forgotten that? If walmart wanted to sell you milk for 80$, they can do that, what part of that do you not understand? As a buyer you choose. You can choose not to buy from walmart. But now all of a sudden walmart is a "bad guy"? How? Stupid maybe. Bad? Wtf??
If you refuse to acknowledge that reddit is handling this situation poorly I don't know what to tell you.

If you read Christian's post he has recorded calls from earlier this year reassuring him that the API wasn't getting changed any time soon and then all of a sudden with incredibly short notice they want to charge an absurd amount of money.

Again, no one is saying they shouldn't be able to charge, no one is saying they can't charge what they want. The issue is that they are doing it on short notice, not taking any feedback, and again lying about 3rd party app developers to try and make themselves look better for the sake of their IPO. They are the bad guys.
 
I think Reddit is an American thing. I don’t know anyone who uses it here (England) but it sure sounds like a raw deal for this guy and his app, similar to what Twitter did a few months ago.
It’s not. It has millions of users in the UK
 
If you refuse to acknowledge that reddit is handling this situation poorly I don't know what to tell you.

If you read Christian's post he has recorded calls from earlier this year reassuring him that the API wasn't getting changed any time soon and then all of a sudden with incredibly short notice they want to charge an absurd amount of money.

Again, no one is saying they shouldn't be able to charge, no one is saying they can't charge what they want. The issue is that they are doing it on short notice, not taking any feedback, and again lying about 3rd party app developers to try and make themselves look better for the sake of their IPO. They are the bad guys.
Business is allowed to adapt as quickly or slowly as they need. Again, if walmart tomorrow decided with 1 HOUR notice to stop selling milk. Are they bad guys? Please.

If you yelled and said you children needs milk but walmart just don't want to sell it. Are they bad? Please.

This anti-corporation sentiment so popular among the young is sickening. It's like they have no knowledge of corporate governance whatsoever.
 
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Business is allowed to adapt as quickly or slowly as they need. Again, if walmart tomorrow decided with 1 HOUR notice to stop selling milk. Are they bad guys? Please.

If you yelled and said you children needs milk but walmart just don't want to sell it. Are they bad? Please.

This anti-corporation sentiment so popular among the young is sickening. It's like they have no knowledge of corporate governance whatsoever.
Eh?

So it’s impossible for a corporation to handle something badly, yet even potentially slander?

No one is saying Reddit is not entitled to a revenue stream, but the way they’ve gone about it is capricious and somewhat nefarious with agita at best.
 
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