You could have just said you don’t understand the situation and saved yourself a lot of typing.
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Popular Reddit App Apollo Shutting Down on June 30
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I think I’ll quit it at least take a good long break from Reddit when Apollo shuts down. It’ll be good for me and **** Reddit.
Anyone who thinks this is reasonable clearly hasn't read Selig's explanation. He has thousands of users who paid annual subscription fees after Reddit told him months ago nothing was changing, then told him 2 months ago there would be a fee, then told him a week ago what the fee would be with 30 days until it takes effect, and lied to him about how flexible that deadline was. Then slandered him in public statements. And he has the audio recordings to prove it.
In short, Selig is proposing a fee which is still highly profitable for Reddit and a longer timeline to implement it, but Reddit wouldn't budge, so he couldn't afford to subsidize all his users and is financially forced to shut down. It's just a really, royally stupid decision on Reddit's part.
In short, Selig is proposing a fee which is still highly profitable for Reddit and a longer timeline to implement it, but Reddit wouldn't budge, so he couldn't afford to subsidize all his users and is financially forced to shut down. It's just a really, royally stupid decision on Reddit's part.
First, show me where I claimed that anything they're doing is illegal (hint: you won't be able to, because that's a bad-faith argument that you brought in yourself).
Incompetent? Check.
Greedy? Double check.
Illegal? 404, no claims found.
No one here is saying that Reddit is handling things poorly. Every post I’ve seen is saying Reddit is a “bad guy”, stealing from the little ones kind of thing.
yup... They are free to do whatever they want and destroy their business as they please, but when they see that engagement/ key numbers that shareholders value end up in the toilet they have nobody to blame but themselves... Just ask Elon,
Oh is that it? Then what is there to even talk about? thousands of public company is greedy, incompetent. In fact probably the majority.
it's not corporate robbery if reddit never asked to be paid before. Apollo created a world class app that encouraged and increased usage of reddit. now reddit has grown large enough and they think their mobile products are good enough they no longer need 3rd party apps to grow their business... so be it but they deserve the hit in reputation they are getting for several reasons...
1) little to no warning (less than 5 weeks from announcing API prices to starting charging... when Apple shut down Dark Sky API which many weather apps relied on they ended up giving developers 30 MONTHS notice)
2) a public claim to charge reasonable prices but then the prices were so high that no 3rd party app could come close to affording to pay. ultimately that's Reddit's right but be honest and just say "we are getting rid of 3rd party apps" rather than offering a price you know effectively does the same thing while hiding behind the idea that "well they could pay if they wanted to stay in business."
it may well be true that in a year this is all a distant memory and the vast majority of reddit users have forgiven and forgotten as they use native reddit apps to continue their use. that doesn't make how this was handled ethical or right. the only corporate robbery here is reddit's as they shoot in the back the folks that brought them to the dance.
Yup, like I said before, you don't seem to understand what anyone is unhappy about in this situation.
That’s exactly my point. thank you for saying that. But people ARE unhappy because apparently this company is stealing from the little guys!
Ha based on many similar bullheaded moves, they hear people loud and clear. They don’t care. The people they want to hear from are the ones they are going to get ridiculous amounts of money from by selling out.
I suggest you read things again, what you’ve said isn’t mutually exclusive.
So why not take a couple of minutes to actually learn why people are unhappy rather than just making wild assumptions and then having that gall to wrongly lecture others? Reading is easy, there are plenty of posts and news articles explaining it.
My Reddit days are done on that date. I use the Apollo app exclusively with paid sub. No, I will not be asking for money back either. I know many cheapskates will though sadly. We can offset some of that by loading his tip jar. Donate!
I seriously doubt most of them are using a 3rd party app. No need to wait for time. I’m telling you right now.
yalag... you are 100% entitled to your opinion but the vast majority would say that having the #1 retailer in the world stop selling a necessary staple like milk for children with 1 hour notice is unethical and does indeed make them bad guys. It may not be illegal but it would be wrong and it could well bring customers to question their choice of retailer, rightfully so. reddit may not have done anything illegal but just because they could do something doesn't make it right to do it, worthy of praise, or immune from customer's negative reactions.
I did take a couple of minutes. And the whole unhappy thing is illogical.
The dude literally free rided on reddit's server for years!
Did he pay for the server costs? No!
Did he contribute any content to the site? No!
Did he sign any agreement to guarantee the availability of the API? No!
The whole time he should be thinking. Wow! It's pretty damn sweet that I can just take this company's content, put it on my app and then profit from it! I wonder how long I can get away with this bug?
Maybe a year? Wow! No. A god damn 8 years.
And how much can I profit from piggybacking off this free goods? Maybe a few tens of dollars? No!
2.8 Shiny million dollars.
Wait? Somehow Apollo is the good guy and we should be upset? Look at my history, I don't even ever post on this forum but this time it's just so one sidedly ridiculous that I need to post something.
Fair, but to carry that analogy. You would say Walmart has "handled" the situation poorly (assuming they didn't just stop selling milk out of spite). But you would never say Walmart is EVIL. Walmart is the BAD GUYS.
Incompetent. Sure.
Mismanagement. Sure.
EVIL? FFS
Guys, I think we should also delete all our Imgur uploads we did through Apollo. I think they will still show on Reddit in the future, even if it says OP [deleted]. I don’t want my pics to help Reddit in the future.
You can see the uploads in Apollo’s settings General>Media>Manage uploads.
You can see the uploads in Apollo’s settings General>Media>Manage uploads.
I think terms like "evil" are thrown about way too easily today. no reddit is not "evil." but that doesn't mean that the way they are treating major 3rd party app partners that have absolutely helped the growth of reddit and been encouraged by reddit for upwards of a decade in some cases isn't unethical and it also can absolutely mean there are some bad guys at reddit.
To me, gross abuse of power is evil. Asking for pay for API use is one thing, these prices are gross abuse of power.