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possible bad news for the iPhone? the LG Dare

I think the fact that all these manufacturers are releasing phones that they are touting as "iPhone Beaters" or "iPhone Rivals" speaks volumes for the impact Apple has had on the cosy world of cellphone manufacturers.
I bet Steve Ballmer's not laughing any more ;)

I had to smile that the "Mobility Briefing Center" that this article is part of is sponsored by Windows Mobile
 
Mad Mac Maniac said:
Why is it that everybody seems to forget the biggest draw to the iphone. No it's not the amazing interface. No it's not the amazing web browsing. No it's not the CAMERA. No it's not the multitouch. No it's not even the app store!

Those things help build it into the greatest phone ever, sure. But the biggest draw for the iphone is the fact that it's an ipod. Plan and simple. ipods have become synonymous with mp3. They hold, what like over 75% of the market?

Now with the phone/ipod combo they will begin to dominate the cell phone industry.
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Touche.
 
When the App Store is launched on July 11th, every competitor out there trying to make an "iPhone killer" will just need to stop. That will set everything off. No other company can do anything remotely close to it...
 
The reason why the iPhone is ace is it's interface, Apple's got awesome software engineers.

Look at the Sony Ericsson software, yes it has some of iPhones missing features, and they make great phones, it doesn't compare with iPhone OS X does it?

As Mr Jobs said, "Baby Software"

P.S. Not picking on SE, I prefer their phones and software when compared with Nokia, Siemens & Motorola.
 
Mitch1984 said:
The reason why the iPhone is ace is it's interface, Apple's got awesome software engineers.

Look at the Sony Ericsson software, yes it has some of iPhones missing features, and they make great phones, it doesn't compare with iPhone OS X does it?

As Mr Jobs said, "Baby Software"

P.S. Not picking on SE, I prefer their phones and software when compared with Nokia, Siemens & Motorola.
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Amen brother. SE definitely has the next best cellphone UI which is sad because it's miles from the iPhone UI, which just feels so natural to use.
 
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The comments made at the website are hard to read. There are so many people who are hating on the iPhone, and I'm surprised.

I don't see what makes this phone better than the iPhone besides the camera.
Someone on the site even had the nerve to say the Internet browsing on the iPhone isn't that great.

Ignorance at its best. I wonder how many of these people who are insulting the iPhone have actually used it, and how many are little immature little kids who can't afford either phone.
 
The Dare has arrived. I have to wait for my partner to come home to activate it, but I took some side by side pics.
 

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BUT, THESE SPECS OFF OF VERIZON'S SITE DON'T LOOK TOO BAD. Time will tell:

06/26/2008
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BASKING RIDGE, NJ — Verizon Wireless and LG Electronics MobileComm U.S.A., Inc. (LG Mobile Phones) today announced the highly-anticipated LG Dare™ is now available through Verizon Wireless’ online store. This summer’s must-have phone dares to be different with its bold looks and advanced capabilities – boasting a spacious three-inch touch-screen with handwriting recognition, a superior 3.2 megapixel camera with face detection and flash, and unique photo editing capabilities. The phone will be available in Verizon Wireless Communications Stores, including those in Circuit City, on July 3.
The LG Dare’s touch-screen offers the optimal HTML Web browsing experience and runs on the nation’s most reliable wireless network to ensure a smooth and easy navigation experience. The touch-screen also supports handwriting recognition and tactile feedback so that customers can more easily select their options on the phone. The phone’s camera has a Schneider-Kreuznach certified lens for outstanding image quality, and the camera offers advanced features, such as face detection and an LED flash so customers can take enhanced-quality photos from their mobile phones. Additionally, customers can use the photo editing tool to personalize their digital photos with features that include borders and landscapes, and they can draw on their pictures directly on the screen using their fingertips.
Additional features and capabilities of LG Dare include:
  • V CAST Music-capable – access more than 3 million full-length songs from well-known and independent artists that can be purchased and downloaded over-the-air directly to the phone
  • Music Player for .mp3, .wma, unprotected .aac, and unprotected .aac+ files
  • microSD™ card memory port – with up to 8 GB support with an optional memory card
  • USB Mass Storage – transfer files between microSD card and PC
  • 3.2 Megapixel Camera and Camcorder
    • Schneider-Kreuznach certified lens for optimal picture quality
    • Camera Resolutions: 2048 x 1536, 1600 x 1200, 1280 x 960, 640 x 480, 320 x 240 pixels
    • SmartPic technology and manual ISO adjustment for improved image quality
    • Face Detection – detects a face when taking a picture
    • Panorama, split shot and frame camera settings
    • Scene Mode – automatically makes adjustments to camera settings for improved quality in different environments
    • Zoom: up to 2x
    • Image Editor – zoom, rotate, crop, add frames and icons and write over images
    • Video Resolutions: 640 x 480, 320 x 240, 176 x 144 pixels
    • Video Recording Speed: up to 120 frames per second for slow video playback
    • Video Recording Time: 30 seconds (for sending); up to 1 hour (for saving) depending on memory
    • Video Player for WMV, MP4, 3GP, 3G2 formats
    • Customizable brightness, white balance, shutter sound, color effects, night and preview mode, photometry, self-timer
  • Bluetooth® Version 2.1 + EDR (Enhanced Data Rate)
    • Listen to music with optional stereo Bluetooth headset
    • Send all contacts and calendar events via Bluetooth
    • Print and send customer-generated pictures (JPEG) via Bluetooth
    • Save up to 20 Bluetooth pairings
    • Supported Profiles: headset, hands-free car kits, dial-up networking, stereo Bluetooth, phone book access, basic printing, object push for vCard and vCalendar, file transfer, basic imaging, human interface device
  • One-touch speakerphone
  • Speaker-independent voice commands
  • Voice Recording: 1 minute or 1 hour (standby)
  • Music ringer support (clips from hit songs)
  • HTML Web browsing with touch navigation and favorites
  • Text, picture, video messaging-capable
  • Mobile Email – access MSN® Hotmail®, America Online® and Yahoo!® accounts to exchange e-mail
  • Mobile IM capabilities
  • VZ Navigator(SM)-capable – get visual and audible directions to thousands of destinations, locate businesses and other points of interest, get maps of a location, and share directions with others
  • Phone Book with 1,000 contacts: each contact entry stores five numbers, two e-mail addresses and a Picture ID
  • FOTA-capable – upgrade firmware over-the-air
  • Favorites – add up to nine contacts with Picture ID
  • Speed Dial (up to 996 entries)
  • Technology: CDMA
  • Frequency: 1.9 GHz CDMA PCS, 800 MHz CDMA (Digital Dual-Band)
  • Data Transmission: high-speed EV-DO
  • Dimensions: 4.1" (h) x 2.2" (w) x 0.5" (d)
  • Weight: 3.76 ounces
  • Display: 260K Color TFT, 240 x 400 pixels, 3.0"
  • Standard Battery: 1,100 mAh
  • Usage Time: up to 280 minutes or
  • Standby Time: up to 360 hours
The Dare is available for $199.99 after a $50 mail-in rebate with a new two-year customer agreement.
 
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the iPhone re-invented the phone. Look at all these other "touch phones" and they all look, feel, and work as similar to the iPhone as they can legally get away with.

If you ask me, any of those "iPhone killers" or threats out there are just knockoffs. Sure, some may have a few different features, but I'm sure those narrow gaps will be filled with the new App Store.

The only reason anyone would get the LG Dare is if they morbidly hate ATT or are too deep into Verizon to get out.
 
ksrfoh said:
If you ask me, any of those "iPhone killers" or threats out there are just knockoffs. Sure, some may have a few different features, but I'm sure those narrow gaps will be filled with the new App Store.
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You know the LG Prada came out before the iPhone was even unveiled, don't you.

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Scooterman1 said:
Everyone if forgetting something here.

1. Apple has made a GREAT product in the iPhone
2. Other companies trying to offer the other carriers (non AT&T) a competing product to use is great since Apple won't. Just look at how many are trying to unlock and Jailbreak iPhones so they can only use a portion of the features on other Carriers plans.
3. Competition is GREAT for us iPhone users.
a. It drives Apple to offer more stuff like features (cut 'n paste), better camera, MMS, & etc.
b. Competion keeps prices fair.

So, come on other companies. Keep trying. It's good for us if you come out with an awesome product that stirs Apple.

Edit: After posting, it looks like several of us caught the same points.
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You've made some very valid points. I agree :D
 
Mad Mac Maniac said:
Why is it that everybody seems to forget the biggest draw to the iphone. No it's not the amazing interface. No it's not the amazing web browsing. No it's not the CAMERA. No it's not the multitouch. No it's not even the app store!

Those things help build it into the greatest phone ever, sure. But the biggest draw for the iphone is the fact that it's an ipod. Plan and simple. ipods have become synonymous with mp3. They hold, what like over 75% of the market?

Now with the phone/ipod combo they will begin to dominate the cell phone industry.
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Doubt it since they're completely different products with completely different purchase terms.
 
There is one thing that all these phones are missing. An App Store! That alone will make me stay with my iPhone. I see bigs things ahead!
 
Archie- said:
You know the LG Prada came out before the iPhone was even unveiled, don't you.
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I took his comment about knockoffs to be referring to the software. That keyboard interface was pretty silly how much of an ugly copy of the iPhone that was. Hardware design is one thing. Of course the iPhone looks like the Prada on the outside--How much different can phones look when they are designed to be as small as possible and have a screen on the whole face?

The home screen is disappointing too--Why is it not on a grid, like every other phone, ever? That's just childish.
 
I thought the Dare ad Prada are almost the same phone.

I do agree that the keyboard does look chunky. I also don't like the fact you only have one line of text while typing. I am eager to play with it once it is activated.
 
I think the fact that all these manufacturers are releasing phones that they are touting as "iPhone Beaters" or "iPhone Rivals" speaks volumes for the impact Apple has had on the cosy world of cellphone manufacturers.
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Exactly.... that is the same feeling I am getting from all of this.
 
On a spec-for-spec basis, the Dare beats the iPhone, and costs the same, $200. For the real multimedia maven, the Dare is the phone to beat.
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1. What the iPhones features are and what he thinks the iPhones features are is not the same thing. 2. "Real multimedia mavens" are a really numerous and important customer group. The Dare will probably sell to hundreds, maybe even to dozens of them.
 
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