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Possible Third-Party 'iPad Pro' Case Shown in New Photo
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Elvergun
macrumors 6502
They can coexist, but if I'm spending that much money on one devise (buying both is nuts), and if I'm looking for a 12'' "tablet" with a stylus, I would probably pick the Surface Pro (but only if it's running Windows 10). Have you seen Windows 10? It's not the old hodgepodge of Metro and traditional Windows anymore.
If you buy such a big tablet, portability is not your priority -- power is probably more important to those users. I don't think iOS is powerful enough. Would you buy a MacBook Air if it was running on iOS?
I don't think think anything from Microsoft will replace my iPad Mini though (or my iPhone).
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NO BRO... The stylus would be for artist, and designers. That's why the name is Pro. There will probable be a huge push for Pro apps, especially for artists and designers. IOS already has some of the best artists and designer apps out there.
In all honestly, the stylus has been a kind of a frekin waist on the Galaxy tabs, because there are hardly if any developers developing artist apps to take advantage of there stylus.
Mattsasa
macrumors 68020
RobertMartens
macrumors 65816
I love this "remains unclear" it is such a useless phrase to use on a rumors site. Yet they use it all the time. Along with "it is not yet known" and so on.
What makes it weak to you? I use it more than OSX on a daily basis. And its biggest feature is the huge amount of developer devotion this thing gets. There is an app out there for everything, its insane. And the Apps are just getting more and more powerful, and helping me get more and more work done.
I don't want some Hybrid Frankenstein OS. I just want apps to get more and more powerful. And so far its been great.
Oh yeah. Ill give you an example. I've been using an IOS 8 keyboard called NINTYPE (look it up). This keyboard is so Damn fast, i'm typing faster than I've ever even dreamed of typing on a keyboard. So now I use it to write everything, and its crazy.
I am deeply interested in the iPad Pro, but my main concern is that as a first gen iteration of a product category (I mean, true pro tablets aren't just like regular tablets), functionality might be gimped and won't fulfill its true potential until the next version of the iPad Pro.
gmanist1000
macrumors 68030
I tried the Surface Pro 3, and I disapprove. REASON: Its awkward.
The Surface Pro hardly has any Metro apps. The Windows App store is like a waist land. Even with the desktop version of Win 10, its still not really touch friendly. Also its going to take allot of new developers to make Win 10 apps touch friendly, and Windows 8+ is sourly lacking in that department.
I've used the Surface Pro for a long period, and it just came out to be an awkward laptop, with the super light keyboard, and heaver screen (through's off balance). Also the kickstand + keyboard with trackpad, takes up way to much space, especially on your lap.
This is why I would always take ether an iPad, or a super thin laptop over a Surface Pro any day. The tablet functionality of the Surface Pro is just horrible, and laptop use is awkward.
The Surface Pro hardly has any Metro apps. The Windows App store is like a waist land. Even with the desktop version of Win 10, its still not really touch friendly. Also its going to take allot of new developers to make Win 10 apps touch friendly, and Windows 8+ is sourly lacking in that department.
I've used the Surface Pro for a long period, and it just came out to be an awkward laptop, with the super light keyboard, and heaver screen (through's off balance). Also the kickstand + keyboard with trackpad, takes up way to much space, especially on your lap.
This is why I would always take ether an iPad, or a super thin laptop over a Surface Pro any day. The tablet functionality of the Surface Pro is just horrible, and laptop use is awkward.
ebika
macrumors 6502a
I agree, having too many devices is costly, heavy, and annoying. I haven't had a chance to use Windows 10 yet, but the Windows user experience up through 8.1 doesn't leave me optimistic that they understand how to design for consistency and ease-of-use. Hopefully Windows 10 will start making headway, but I'm pretty happy with the OS X experience so Windows isn't my priority. Having an ecosystem of devices that play nice is a priority (which is why I'd like them to improve the iOS stuff, rather than buying a Surface).
Power isn't my priority in a tablet. Screen real estate is a factor when drawing and taking notes, but I'd like portability. I have my MacBook Pro for the power, and a tablet to take to meetings. I pretty much abandoned using my iPad for notes, and I'm using paper and pencil and scanning stuff into Evernote. It feels so archaic and wrong, but I'm not going to lug a Surface around too.
AppleScruff1
macrumors G4
A stylus will suddenly be quite useful and people will wonder how they ever survived without one. Soon claims will be made that Apple invented the stylus and that Samsung copied them even though they had one before Apple. 😀
a0me
macrumors 65816
There have been selling styluses for iPad for a few years. They're not has good as the one for the Galaxy Note Pro, sure, but styluses for iOS devices are nothing new.
I think most Apple users only hate touchscreen based devices that require a stylus to work.
I wonder if it's a 12.2" or 12.9". That's not big but still a significant difference. Then there's the matter of weight. I personally hope for even lighter iPads in the future although a large iPad will demand a bigger battery to accommodate that screen.
I know it's not the same writer but Macrumors writers should really read their own articles before linking to it.
I know it's not the same writer but Macrumors writers should really read their own articles before linking to it.
rowspaxe
macrumors 68020
surface hub!!
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wow--3rd major ipad pro thread of the year and we are still beating the steve vs stylus horse. puh-lease.
Any surface pro 3 user will tell you how important the kickstand is--esp for pen work. I really think the ipad pro needs this
rowspaxe
macrumors 68020
well--you dont share the irrational hate/fear of windows. An ipad pro could be a great product, but i will stay in the surface camp.
Incidentally--surface generated a billion in revenues last quarter--thats about
12% of ipad sales.
This will only be usefull, if Apple figures out something like Microsoft did with its new Windows 10 "Cross-platform" thingy and making MacOS work on it. If it's just another tablet with classic iOS then i really dont see a point in this device.
I'm hoping iOS 9 will either focus on iPad (the same way iOS 7 focused on iPhone) so people don't feel they need OS X on iPad. So when you choose between a MacBook Air and an iPad, for example, your only choice is form factor, not capability.
More APIs for pro apps, examples of pro apps from Apple, Adobe, Autodesk, etc. Split screen multi-tasking (up to 4 apps at once).
Just something that's polished, tested, and if to really be useful it requires a larger screened/faster "iPad Pro" with more RAM, then that's great, too.
There are different advantages of each, naturally.
Apple would have the edge on tablet-optimised apps (that a benefit from a stylus, don't require one), no viruses, iLife, iWork, etc.
Kind of like Mac vs PC from years ago 😀
sracer
macrumors G4
That's an odd statement. Especially since there is no such thing as an iPad Pro at this point, only an Everest-sized mountain of rumor and speculation.
For those of us invested in the iOS ecosystem (and OSX), it isn't so easy to simply switch to a different platform. There is software for iOS (and OSX) that doesn't have a Windows version. That requires purchasing and learning new software.
There is also world of difference in user experience between an iOS tablet and a Windows tablet.
Both Android and Windows platforms have tablets with active digitizers, iOS doesn't. You "really don't get the iPad Pro", whereas I really don't get why people are against providing options.
So the only reason to not want a Surface is an irrational hate or fear of Windows? 🙄
That's impressive IMO. Especially given how Microsoft botched the initial release of the Surface line. It is why I think that Microsoft rushed the SP3 to market and why Apple will produce something similar... Apple knows that Microsoft finally got it mostly right with the SP3.